Upcoming H-Drol cycle

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  1. Upcoming H-Drol cycle


    Brand new to this site and I thought I would make an introductory thread by asking for inputs on my upcoming 6 week H-drol cycle. I have been doing almost a years worth of research before I finally decided to go down this road. Here is how I have the cycle laid out.

    Week 1 - 6
    75mgs - H-Drol (CEL)
    2x a day - AI Cycle Assist
    2-3 pills - Milk Thistle (Just in case)
    2 pills - Hawthorne Berry (If needed)

    Week 7-11
    SERM 40/20/20/20
    BIOFORGE
    DAA (Do I need it??)

    Weeks 12-16
    Erase
    BIOFORGE
    DAA(Do I need it??)

    Questions:
    Do I need the DAA or will the bioforge be enough of a test booster?
    Can you take an stimulants like preworkout or anything while on a PH?

    Any inputs or additions are welcome.


  2. I recommend running cel Hdrol 50/50/75/75/75/75 especially if you haven't cycled before.

    Definitely use daa in pct and start the erase in week 2 of pct.

    No stimulants on cycle until you know how the steroids effect your blood pressure.

    Also don't cycle if you are under 23!!!

    My first cycle was Hdrol and I ran it
    25/50/50/75/75/75

    And had amazing results..
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  3. Hey thanks man for the quick reply. Will do as you described.

    Another question:
    Can I take the CA at the same time as the Hdrol. I read somewhere that it might affect the Hdrol. What's your take on this theory?
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  4. Try to space them 4 hours apart. To avoid hindering gains.
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  5. Ok so it will hinder it. What's better getting the hormone in me first thing in the morning or the CA?

  6. Oh yeah and no worries on age I am only a few months away from 30... Lol

  7. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    Ok so it will hinder it. What's better getting the hormone in me first thing in the morning or the CA?
    I like to take the Hdrol first but it all depends on you and your schedule. What time do you wake up and what time do you lift? Make sure one dose is about 45 mins before your workout. Milk thistle doesn't protect your liver it simply helps it function better. So it's safer to take cycle assist first but I worry it effects the strength of the Hdrol.
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  8. I wake up at 6 eat and usually hit the gym around 11-12. CA with bfast and Hdrol before workout or vice versa? Also can you take the H on an empty stomach? Then Hrol in evening and last dose of CA before bed?

  9. I wake up at 6 and usually gym at 11-12. CA with bfast and H before gym or vice versa? Also can you take H on an empty stomach? I don't eat 45 mins prior to gym.

  10. Take ca then Hdrol preworkout, I usually eat something with dosing but it's all how your body handles it. Some people have stomach irritation some don't.
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  11. What do you eat pre-workout(45-60 mins)? I can't see eating anything that close to gym but like a banana or something.

  12. I eat a meal about an hour before the gym and dose the Hdrol about 15 mins later. I usually eat eggs and turkey bacon or something like that. When im not as hungry I have Greek yogurt with a scoop of whey.
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  13. Seems after reading around people say the whole food thing is thinking to much into the situation. Most say food or no food doesn't matter it's a steroid and is going to be effective either way.

  14. Yea I never said anything about it effecting the Hdrol potency I said some people get stomach irritation if they don't eat with it....
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  15. Thanks for all the help man.

  16. No prob bro
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  17. Says your inbox is full bro

  18. Fixed
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  19. Hello again people. I have currently been on my Hdr now for going on 4 days and no sides but no positives either. Can I increase to 75mg or should I wait till week 2?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    Hello again people. I have currently been on my Hdr now for going on 4 days and no sides but no positives either. Can I increase to 75mg or should I wait till week 2?
    Wait for sure! You won't notice much in the first week. You jump too early and you will cash your gains out too early and also make it harder to cycle in the future because your body will need more to get gains.
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  21. Ok cool man thanks.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    Ok cool man thanks.
    No prob man, in guessing you'll notice changes about day 7 or 8. You'll love it!
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  23. If I notice changes at 50mg should I just stay at that dose?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    If I notice changes at 50mg should I just stay at that dose?
    I would until at least week 3. That is up to you though, I never raised to 75 until week 4 but I also only did 25 week 1...
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  25. Ok I will see how it's impacting me by next week. Most sites say bump it up to 75 from week 2 onward. But if it's working great for Me at 50 then I won't move what's the Point you know?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    Ok I will see how it's impacting me by next week. Most sites say bump it up to 75 from week 2 onward. But if it's working great for Me at 50 then I won't move what's the Point you know?
    These sites say to move CEL Hdrol for FIRST time cycles to 75 at week 2?
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  27. Yeppers every site I've looked at has 50/75/75/75/75/75

  28. hmm interesting, I gained 15 and kept 9 at 25/50/50/75/75/75 and had no sides. There is no reason anyone running for there first time should need that high a dose by week two IMO. Unless you plan on never running it again..
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    Yeppers every site I've looked at has 50/75/75/75/75/75
    Ive done 50/50/75/75/100/100
    On my first ph cycle. Loved it. Lethargy was bad by week 5, felt it kick in near the end of week 2 or 3.
    I weigh 200 or so and was trying to gain so that kinda influenced my dosage as well.
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  30. Well I guess I already ****ed that one up. I started at 50mg. Does your body weight and age matter maybe?

  31. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    Well I guess I already ****ed that one up. I started at 50mg. Does your body weight and age matter maybe?
    Body weight more than anything I think. But usually it's standard unless you are like 250+, I have seen many take hdrol up to 125mgs who are 200lbs.
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  32. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Body weight more than anything I think. But usually it's standard unless you are like 250+, I have seen many take hdrol up to 125mgs who are 200lbs.
    hdrol or hella? There is a difference, hella is said to be a bit under dosed....
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    hdrol or hella? There is a difference, hella is said to be a bit under dosed....
    Both. I've only ran hdrol by CEL though.
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  34. Mattrag: Ty for your input man. I feel a bit better now knowing that someone else also went higher by second week. Thought I was really ****ing up my cycle for a little bit there.

  35. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482
    Mattrag: Ty for your input man. I feel a bit better now knowing that someone else also went higher by second week. Thought I was really ****ing up my cycle for a little bit there.
    Yea. Don't worry too much. Some crazy ppl run 100mg the whole 6 weeks.... Stay with the lowest dose that gives you results. Should start to notice something by the end of week two. If not bump it to 75.
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  36. I am just going to stick with 75mg from week 2 on forward. I don't see any reason too go above that unless some one can justify a reason for me.

    Bigger question right now, how do you cope with no preworkout on this stuff? I always take one but not being able while on this stuff is killing my drive and focus and definitely energy. Help would be appreciated.

  37. Is it also that important to take a dose right before gym because I can't fit that in my schedule till 75 mg due to me working out at noon. I take one at bfast and one at dinner 12 hours later.

  38. I did 50 first week then went up to 75 and kept it there. 100 mg was way too much for me to handle 75 gave good results. You can use preworkouts on cycle, just make sure it doesn't affect your BP that is the main concern. My BP doesn't really go up on cycle so the stims didn't bother me.

  39. Quote Originally Posted by babyboy121482 View Post
    Is it also that important to take a dose right before gym because I can't fit that in my schedule till 75 mg due to me working out at noon. I take one at bfast and one at dinner 12 hours later.
    You can just do 2 with breakfast and 1 at night. The halflife is around 16-18 hours you don't need to make them super evenly spaced just take two am and 1 pm. That should still keep your blood levels pretty steady.

  40. Bigdavid: thanks bro for all the clarifying info man!! I will have to go check my BP I don't
    Think it's effecting it but want to test it at 75mg first before stims. Any symptoms for high BP or do I have to go get it checked at a machine everytime??
  

  
 

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