IBE Epistane Log April 2, 2012

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  1. Day 13: Saturday (off day)

    9am-10mg epi
    1pm-4pills cycle assist
    5pm-10mg epi
    9pm-4pills cycle assist
    1am-10mg epi

    Diet:
    Breakfast:
    5 whole eggs
    2 pieces whole wheat toast
    2 cups greek yogurt
    Lunch:
    2ft. "muscle sub" (contains 150g protein, 200g carbs, 36g fat)
    Snack:
    2 scoops casein protein
    Snack:
    5 whole eggs
    2 pieces whole wheat toast
    2 cups spinach w/ balsamic
    Dinner:
    16oz new york strip
    1 cup oatmeal w/ 1 spenda packet
    Pre-bedtime meal:
    1 cup cottage cheese
    2 scoops casein


  2. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42 View Post
    Day 12: Friday

    9am-10mg epi
    1pm-4pills cycle assist
    5pm-10mg epi
    9pm-4pills cycle assist
    1am-10mg epi

    Workout: Shoulders
    BB shoulder press 4x3-6
    135x6/175x6,205x6,225x6,255x4
    Behind neck press 3x10
    135x10,145x10,155x10
    DB shoulder press 3x13-15
    70sx15,80sx13,80sx14
    Side raises 3x10
    25sx10,35sx10,35sx10
    Cable rear delt pulls 4x10
    DB shrugs 4x13-15
    115sx15,130sx15,150sx14,160sx1 3

    Diet:
    Breakfast:
    5 whole eggs
    2 pieces whole wheat toast
    2 cups greek yogurt
    Lunch:
    16oz top sirloin steak
    1 cup greek yogurt
    2 cups spinach w/balsamic
    Pre-workout:
    2 scoops gold standard whey
    1 cup greek yogurt
    Post-workout:
    3 scoops gold standard whey
    Snack:
    65 Shrimp
    3 cups Whole wheat pasta
    Dinner:
    16oz top sirloin steak
    2 cups spinach w/ balsamic
    1 cup frozen fruit
    Snack:
    5 whole eggs
    2 pieces whole wheat toast
    damn, eating like a king lol.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by TryHard23

    damn, eating like a king lol.
    $$$$$$!!!!
    "Liver stress is weakness leaving the body!!"

  4. I'll follow.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by TryHard23 View Post
    damn, eating like a king lol.

    Haha i thought why not its friday! might as well eat like a king since i cant drink like one

  6. Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48 View Post
    $$$$$$!!!!
    I definitely wish good food was cheaper! i spend around 200 bucks a week on groceries but i gotta keep my diet and protein up!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I'll follow.
    Awesome man! thanks for reading!

  8. Day 14: Sunday (off day)

    9am-10mg epi
    1pm-4pills cycle assist
    5pm-10mg epi
    9pm-4pills cycle assist
    1am-

    Diet:
    Breakfast-
    10 egg whites
    2 slices whole wheat bread
    1 cup oats w/ 2 splenda packets
    Snack-
    1 cup oats w/ 3 splenda packets
    Snack-
    2 serving gold standard whey
    Lunch-
    6oz boneless skinless chicken breast
    2 pieces whole wheat toast
    2 cups spinach w/ balsamic
    Snack-
    1 cup oats w/ 3 splenda packets
    Dinner-
    Pre-bedtime meal-

  9. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42
    Day 14: Sunday (off day)

    9am-10mg epi
    1pm-4pills cycle assist
    5pm-
    9pm-
    1am-

    Diet:
    Breakfast-
    10 egg whites
    2 slices whole wheat bread
    1 cup oats w/ 2 splenda packets
    Snack-
    Eating like a champ... Is your appetite at an all time high on Epi?
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Eating like a champ... Is your appetite at an all time high on Epi?
    I could never imagine eating this much before! my appetite is at an all time high for sure. i could honestly eat more then i am right now but being a college student...money is already tight and i spend most of what i have on food lol, especially since i am trying to run my cycle perfectly and get the most out of it
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42

    I could never imagine eating this much before! my appetite is at an all time high for sure. i could honestly eat more then i am right now but being a college student...money is already tight and i spend most of what i have on food lol, especially since i am trying to run my cycle perfectly and get the most out of it
    Starting mine next week...went grocery shopping today...meat meat meat eggs and some veg and some rice... Going to try and eat super clean..

    You planning on posting any before and after pics?
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Starting mine next week...went grocery shopping today...meat meat meat eggs and some veg and some rice... Going to try and eat super clean..

    You planning on posting any before and after pics?
    Nice bro! good luck with your cycle and i hope you reach your goals! haha thats all i eat man, eggs meat fish...i would definitely recommend you add some greek yogurt in your diet (only the plain..i know the taste isn't the greatest) but the bigger jar (i think its a pint) of it yields 92 grams of protein and no fat, which is fantastic for a clean high protein diet!

    I have not decided yet but i have the before pictures just incase

  13. Tomorrow marks 2 weeks on cycle and it has definitely been an awesome cycle so far...4 weeks to go! As i feel 2 weeks is long enough to be getting results (i definitely feel like i have) i will post weight, stat increases/decreases, and how much weight i have added to the bar so far!

    Thank you everyone for reading/commenting/supporting!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42

    Nice bro! good luck with your cycle and i hope you reach your goals! haha thats all i eat man, eggs meat fish...i would definitely recommend you add some greek yogurt in your diet (only the plain..i know the taste isn't the greatest) but the bigger jar (i think its a pint) of it yields 92 grams of protein and no fat, which is fantastic for a clean high protein diet!

    I have not decided yet but i have the before pictures just incase
    I do eat greek yogurt...both plain and sometimes I splurge and make coconut my desert yogurt! I think bf/after pics are good for logs because it always solidifies your results.
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  15. well everyone i think epistane caused gyno to form so as of right now im taking nolva and lowering my dose of epistane to see if the sides stop...if they dont i will do my full pct next week and see if everyone goes back to normal...if that doesnt work i will do a letro/nolva run and see if that works

    sorry my log was not completed and i doubt i will continue it

    thanks for reading

  16. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42
    well everyone i think epistane caused gyno to form so as of right now im taking nolva and lowering my dose of epistane to see if the sides stop...if they dont i will do my full pct next week and see if everyone goes back to normal...if that doesnt work i will do a letro/nolva run and see if that works

    sorry my log was not completed and i doubt i will continue it

    thanks for reading
    Huh? This went from everything being awesome to gyno all of a sudden and quitting this log, which has been great thus far. Could u please elaborate on ur symptoms?
    "Liver stress is weakness leaving the body!!"

  17. Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48 View Post
    Huh? This went from everything being awesome to gyno all of a sudden and quitting this log, which has been great thus far. Could u please elaborate on ur symptoms?

    gyno from epistane 2 weeks in a low dosed cycle?

    this is my discussion about my symptoms..if you could check it out and see what you think that would be great man cause right now im freaking lol

  18. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42
    well everyone i think epistane caused gyno to form so as of right now im taking nolva and lowering my dose of epistane to see if the sides stop...if they dont i will do my full pct next week and see if everyone goes back to normal...if that doesnt work i will do a letro/nolva run and see if that works

    sorry my log was not completed and i doubt i will continue it

    thanks for reading
    Oh man this makes me nervous.
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Oh man this makes me nervous.
    dont be nervous man i have no idea what is going on right now...cant decide if its gyno or just something else i have heard of nipples feeling weird on epistane but it wasnt gyno related

  20. The gyno flare up I had felt like there was a marble behind my nipple and it was sore. This happened when I knew little about ph's and pct. I knew what was going on so I read on a thread guys using epi itself to treat it. I could get my hands on it easy so I tried it and it worked. Took about a week to clear up. I've read people who also say they gotten gyno from taking a epi cycle which is strange due to its anti estro ability. But I imagine if one was a younger guy with naturally high test levels, gyno prone and took a hefty dose of epi there might be some on cycle rebound, I don't know. I know several guys that took stane(popped them like tic tacs) with little to no pct and support and none of them had gyno. By the way they kept very little of their gains as well, ha... Hard to say whats going on with you without some bloodwork. Don't think u've got anything to freak out about yet though...
    "Liver stress is weakness leaving the body!!"

  21. Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48
    The gyno flare up I had felt like there was a marble behind my nipple and it was sore. This happened when I knew little about ph's and pct. I knew what was going on so I read on a thread guys using epi itself to treat it. I could get my hands on it easy so I tried it and it worked. Took about a week to clear up. I've read people who also say they gotten gyno from taking a epi cycle which is strange due to its anti estro ability. But I imagine if one was a younger guy with naturally high test levels, gyno prone and took a hefty dose of epi there might be some on cycle rebound, I don't know. I know several guys that took stane(popped them like tic tacs) with little to no pct and support and none of them had gyno. By the way they kept very little of their gains as well, ha... Hard to say whats going on with you without some bloodwork. Don't think u've got anything to freak out about yet though...
    I knew an idiot who ran Epi for two months straight zero PCT...did it once for two months and once for longer...I sent him the PCT forums man beast created and he disregarded all information... ******* never got gyno and saved most of his gains?...? How, not sure but he did. He was using IBE Epistane.
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  22. Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48 View Post
    The gyno flare up I had felt like there was a marble behind my nipple and it was sore. This happened when I knew little about ph's and pct. I knew what was going on so I read on a thread guys using epi itself to treat it. I could get my hands on it easy so I tried it and it worked. Took about a week to clear up. I've read people who also say they gotten gyno from taking a epi cycle which is strange due to its anti estro ability. But I imagine if one was a younger guy with naturally high test levels, gyno prone and took a hefty dose of epi there might be some on cycle rebound, I don't know. I know several guys that took stane(popped them like tic tacs) with little to no pct and support and none of them had gyno. By the way they kept very little of their gains as well, ha... Hard to say whats going on with you without some bloodwork. Don't think u've got anything to freak out about yet though...
    mine is nothing like a marble just a semi-hard tube kind of thing. it sorta feels like an aching feeling/pressure feeling but i dont know if its actually there or if thats just my head because i honestly dont know how to describe it. doesnt help my chest is sore as shhhhhh it from yesterday! thats why i was so caught off guard when gyno flared up (at least i think so) because i didnt even know epistane could cause gyno unless of course a improper pct was followed and you got a rebound. do you think i should invest in some stane/letro/ect? im trying not to freak out but i dont want this to get worse and i really dont know what to do..the last thing i expected was a gyno flare up on epi...

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    I knew an idiot who ran Epi for two months straight zero PCT...did it once for two months and once for longer...I sent him the PCT forums man beast created and he disregarded all information... ******* never got gyno and saved most of his gains?...? How, not sure but he did. He was using IBE Epistane.
    wow he got very very VERY lucky haha but that just shows you how mild epi can be for some people...hopefully this is just some funk epi put my body in because i DO NOT want to have to deal with gyno!

  24. honestly im going to wait for my erase to come in the mail (should be this week or early next week) and discontinue epi and start a PCT and see if all goes back to normal..a 3 week cycle of epistane dose 20/30/20 should not have done that much damage

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88

    I knew an idiot who ran Epi for two months straight zero PCT...did it once for two months and once for longer...I sent him the PCT forums man beast created and he disregarded all information... ******* never got gyno and saved most of his gains?...? How, not sure but he did. He was using IBE Epistane.
    Only way I can see someone perhaps keeping gains w/o a decent pct would be that guy who goes from couch potato to gym rat. I attribute the retention of gain to the change in lifestyle and eating habits not a magical ability to retain synthetically induced gains. For those of us who have hit our bodies ceiling of gaining muscle natty I would imagine good pct is a must to keep any gain..
    "Liver stress is weakness leaving the body!!"

  26. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42

    mine is nothing like a marble just a semi-hard tube kind of thing. it sorta feels like an aching feeling/pressure feeling but i dont know if its actually there or if thats just my head because i honestly dont know how to describe it. doesnt help my chest is sore as shhhhhh it from yesterday! thats why i was so caught off guard when gyno flared up (at least i think so) because i didnt even know epistane could cause gyno unless of course a improper pct was followed and you got a rebound. do you think i should invest in some stane/letro/ect? im trying not to freak out but i dont want this to get worse and i really dont know what to do..the last thing i expected was a gyno flare up on epi...

    Letro is something good to have in ur "first aid kit". Better to have and not need than vice versa..
    "Liver stress is weakness leaving the body!!"

  27. Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48 View Post
    Letro is something good to have in ur "first aid kit". Better to have and not need than vice versa..
    Yeah i wish i knew i needed it but the only time i saw any of those really potent AIs being used is during really extensive cycles of rear gear and more serious PHs...i really didnt think epi would have done anything close to this but my nipples look exactly the same today so i dont know if the nolva helped already (1 dose of 20mg) or if it was b6 or if i was so freaked out last night that i threw it out of proportion.

    either way i think i am going to stop my cycle unless i can clearly call it one way or the other..because if it is gyno its not bad and i dont want to do anything to **** it up even more

  28. Yea, what ur experiencing is highly unusual for epi, especially in week 2. You think some of ur symptoms are just out of paranoyia? The way you been crushing that diet would be ashame to let all that go to waste. You thought of trying forma stanzol? Its a good ai, little milder than letro and A-strozole. Also reports some good on cycle benefits running it.
    "Liver stress is weakness leaving the body!!"

  29. Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48 View Post
    Yea, what ur experiencing is highly unusual for epi, especially in week 2. You think some of ur symptoms are just out of paranoyia? The way you been crushing that diet would be ashame to let all that go to waste. You thought of trying forma stanzol? Its a good ai, little milder than letro and A-strozole. Also reports some good on cycle benefits running it.
    Yeah lucky me i guess..but i know for something is not right! i have no clue if its paranoia or not but either way im going to stop...atm i am seriously depressed because of what is happening. i know i had my diet on key and everything. i felt really good but now i just cant seem to get it together.

    im getting erase in the mail sometime this week (pretty sure its like forma stanzol)

    i am running nolva @ 20mg a day right now but my question is what should be pct be now that i might have gyno?

    nolva @ 30/20/10/10
    DAA @ 3g/3g/3g/3g
    AX @ 4/4/4/4
    erase @ 0/0/3/2/1
    or erase@3/3/2/2/1/1

    or should i run the nolva differently since i am already taking it?
    and the erase different since i might have gyno...like starting it right away in the beginning of my pct?

    and last question for the night...should i drop my dosage of epi to 10mg a day instead of 20mg? or would that be more harmful then good?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by KaOs42
    Day 13: Saturday (off day)

    9am-10mg epi
    1pm-4pills cycle assist
    5pm-10mg epi
    9pm-4pills cycle assist
    1am-10mg epi

    Diet:
    Breakfast:
    5 whole eggs
    2 pieces whole wheat toast
    2 cups greek yogurt
    Lunch:
    2ft. "muscle sub" (contains 150g protein, 200g carbs, 36g fat)
    Snack:
    2 scoops casein protein
    Snack:
    5 whole eggs
    2 pieces whole wheat toast
    2 cups spinach w/ balsamic
    Dinner:
    16oz new york strip
    1 cup oatmeal w/ 1 spenda packet
    Pre-bedtime meal:
    1 cup cottage cheese
    2 scoops casein
    How do make a muscle sub?

    Your in PCT now?
    Did u see any sides from epi?
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.
  

  
 

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