TurtleLovin
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I don't know why but my first post asking advice on my Beastdrol cycle was deleted today. I think maybe because I snuck in some URLs. Anyway, thanks to Airborne42, Chefbolic, Ayy, and criptich for all the help. After their advice, it's looking like this:
Cycle
Wk 1-4
Beastdrol 10/20/20/30 (when it's at 20, 1 upon waking before breakfast, 1 an hour before lifting)
Liver Support: Liv.52 (3/day. 1 4 hrs after 1st dose SD, 2 4 hrs after 2nd dose, all with fish oil)
BP Support: Hawthorn Berry (I also bought a BP monitor to check my BP everyday, if it gets too high, I'll take my Cycle Assist but want to avoid it because of the milk thistle blocking androgen receptors during the cycle)
PCT
Wk 4-9
SERM/AI: 2 x PCT Revolution Black (DAA+Erase), Clomid, DAA (DAA 12 days before end of cycle, Clomid 75/50/50/25, PCT Black 1/2/3/3/2/1)
Other: Bridge
Here's my original post with the URLs removed:
I'll be starting April 10th and will be logging periodically just in case anyone is interested, or even if no one is.
Cycle
Wk 1-4
Beastdrol 10/20/20/30 (when it's at 20, 1 upon waking before breakfast, 1 an hour before lifting)
Liver Support: Liv.52 (3/day. 1 4 hrs after 1st dose SD, 2 4 hrs after 2nd dose, all with fish oil)
BP Support: Hawthorn Berry (I also bought a BP monitor to check my BP everyday, if it gets too high, I'll take my Cycle Assist but want to avoid it because of the milk thistle blocking androgen receptors during the cycle)
PCT
Wk 4-9
SERM/AI: 2 x PCT Revolution Black (DAA+Erase), Clomid, DAA (DAA 12 days before end of cycle, Clomid 75/50/50/25, PCT Black 1/2/3/3/2/1)
Other: Bridge
Here's my original post with the URLs removed:
No need to flame my original post, you're too late hahaWhat’s up guys this is my first thread. I’ve been using this site extensively for great info on pro-hormones for the past year or so and it has educated me immensely on the RIGHT way to cycle, something that I think everyone even considering a PH cycle should do. About 10 weeks ago, I used info on this site as well as others to run a cycle of Helladrol along with CE Labs Cycle Assist, Testo-Rex and SNS reduce XT for 5 weeks. During the time that I took it, I really focused on my diet and ended up gaining 15 good, solid, lean pounds, something unheard of for my ectomorph body type and I. (165 to 180) Since then I’ve had almost no sides (will mention getting emotional post cycle later), BP was checked and is better than good and have kept the gains for the most part (-2 lbs not too worried).
My stats: 24 years old, 5’10” and at 178 and 15% BF (I had my body fat tested today via Dual X-ray absorptiometry. A 2 pass, 9 point skinfold test yielded a result of 11%). Which is higher than I thought since my abs still show fine, as well as my serratus and my tris, bis, shoulders and back are still showing striation, oh well. I’ve been lifting for about 7 years but my workouts/sleep/diet were awful for the last 3 due to finishing an engineering degree. I’m going to be applying to medical school and starting in two years (gah willin’) so I’d like to get as jacked as possible before I just have to maintain at the most. As I’ve mentioned, I’m an ectomorph and before I started lifting weights seriously after graduating HS, I was the same height and about 125.
I’m definitely pleased with my Helladrol results and would like to put on another 10 or 15 before transitioning to a summer shred to get that BF to ~10%, as I know another huge bulk will raise my BF at least a little, no way around it. I just ordered Beastdrol and have been going over DangerDave’s thread on what else he took as well as TLW’s. So far, this is what I’m proposing:
Cycle
Wk 1-4
Beastdrol 20/20/20/20 (maybe bump week 2-4 or 3-4 to 30 depending on how I’m feeling/what you guys recommend)
Forged Liver Support (Liver Support) – 2 ED
N2 Guard (Liver Support, BP Support)
PCT
Wk 4-8
SERM - Clomidex (Clomid Estrogen Blocker) and/or Forged Post Cycle (Tribulus) and/or Sustain Alpha?
Bridge – (Retain Gains)
DAA (Test Booster)?
Of course I’m doing a 2 week load on liver support and will probably start taking DAA 12 days before the cycle ends, running it 3g ED through PCT and Erase on week 3 of PCT and taper it off 3/3/2/2/1 as per member ISU152.
I wanted to ask you guys about whether you think I should take Clomid or Tribulus or even something else post cycle? Proviron? I’ve been reading a LOT of stuff about Clomid (and Nolvadex )and how it can make your estrogen levels worse post cycle, since it is a mild estrogen in itself. This article seemed very educated and informative written by Nelson Montana. I’ve heard a lot of people talk **** about him buy he quoted Jerry Brainum, a pharmacology expert, as saying about Clomid “I don’t know a single pro that still uses Clomid”. People will react to different things differently but I really don’t want to be a weepy little bitch when I’m off the gear (which happened BAD coming off the Helladrol last time btw, calling ex crying etc.). I’ve also heard mixed reviews on DAA. Many people seem to be using it for PCT but I’ve read about people having very adverse effects when coming off of it but it seems to me that they are taking DAA and ONLY DAA, not using it for PCT, so of course it would do that since it’s raising the F out of T levels, thus raising estrogen.
Diet
Just like I’ve been doing, my BMR is about 1800, so I’m multiplying by 1.7 for activity level and adding 500 to aim to take in about 3700 calories a day, eating every 2.5 hours, keeping my ratios to 20/40/40 fat/protein/carbs, respectively. I’ve read that Beastdrol (Superdrol/SD) loves carbs, so I was going to probably bump the carbs up a bit so maybe 20/35/45 and probably my calorie intake to close to 4000. Low GI carbs, polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, 7 meals a day, all with meat, 12 eggs a day (1 yolk, gotta keep that cholesterol low), only protein after workout (I lift after my 4th meal) etc. I can send anyone who wants a copy of what I ate on a typical day with Helladrol as I will follow the same trend since it worked so well. Avoiding: High GI carbs, sugar, carbonated drinks, coffee, alcohol, and saturated fats. Also aiming for 8-10 hours of sleep a night. Did a middle of the night shake during the Helladrol but not so sure if it’s advantageous since it’s interrupting good sleep.
Supplementation
Pre-workout – C4 Extreme Icy Blue Raz
BCAA – Scivation Xtend Raspberry Blue
Multi – Animal Pak
Protein – Carnivor chocolate (post-workout) ON Casein chocolate cake batter (pre-bed, tastes like squid feces)
Workout
Keeping it simple and beast. No machines, only free weights and hitting compounds hard. (Deadlifts, Squats, Clean and Jerk, Bench).
Monday – Chest/Bis
Tuesday – Legs
Wednesday – Back
Thursday – Shoulders/Tris
Friday – Off
Saturday – Compounds/Abs
Sunday – Off
If you’re at this point, thank you SO much for reading and any advice/critiques on my stack would be greatly appreciated. So ready to get in there and murder sh!t!!!111
I'll be starting April 10th and will be logging periodically just in case anyone is interested, or even if no one is.