First BEASTDROL cycle!

[TLW]

Hey everyone I just ordered everything I need to start my first BEASTDROL cycle should have everything by next week, current stats 5'10 160 lbs 9.5% bf, I'm looking to get to 175lbs 7% bf, here's how it's going to look.

weeks 1-4
Beast 20/20/30/30
Forged liver support
Forged joint support
(multi's, fish oil, and some hawthorn berry)

weeks 4-8 (pct)
liquid clomid 70/70/70/70
daa 3mg a day
pes erase (if needed)

Diet I'm going to be shooting for 4500 calories at least, I'm looking to keep around 12-15 lbs off of this so I'm going to be eating like a mad man.

For training I'm running a 6 day split.
Monday-triceps
Tuesday-back
Wednesday-biceps
Thursday-Shoulders
Friday-Legs
Saturday-Chest
Sunday-Off

Any advice on anything I should add to this or just any advice in general on the stack, go ahead and critique away I still have a week before I start. Thanks everyone!

 

[NFC]

what other PH's have you done by chance? beastdrol is by far not recommended for a first time anabolic. for your pct. i would start your DAA a few days before you end your cycle this way it gets in your bloodstream and by the time you end your cycle it will begin the natty process of rebuilding your test again.

 

[guido gorilla]

Looks ok dude. Keep the carbs high, sd is a carb
Monster!
Could prolly taper down SERM...

 

[TLW]

what other PH's have you done by chance? beastdrol is by far not recommended for a first time anabolic. for your pct. i would start your DAA a few days before you end your cycle this way it gets in your bloodstream and by the time you end your cycle it will begin the natty process of rebuilding your test again.

I've ran p-mag and also m-drol. And alright I'll throw the DAA in a few days before the cycle ends, my buddy also recommended the same thing.

 

[TLW]

Looks ok dude. Keep the carbs high, sd is a carb
Monster!
Could prolly taper down SERM...

Bring on the oats! and what would you recommend for the serm dosage?

 

[NFC]

makes a big difference haha. it's that or be an emotional female for a week til it kicks in.

your cycle looks great though. im more of a fan of torem when it comes to SERMs but with clomid you can probably just do

70/60/60/50

 

[TLW]

makes a big difference haha. it's that or be an emotional female for a week til it kicks in.

your cycle looks great though. im more of a fan of torem when it comes to SERMs but with clomid you can probably just do

70/60/60/50

Hahaha, Ill definitely add the daa in sooner. And I probably would've went with something else besides clomid but I already had it on hand. I don't know how I would does it differently considering it's 35mg/ml how would I get 60 or 50 out of that? haha

 

[NFC]

well sounds like you have liquid clomid. just some simple math bud.

2ml for the first week = 70mg

1 3/4ml for the second week = 61.25mg

1 3/4ml for the third week = 61.25mg

1 1/2ml for the fourth week = 52.5mg


closest and easiest way to dose it.

 

[TLW]

well sounds like you have liquid clomid. just some simple math bud.

2ml for the first week = 70mg

1 3/4ml for the second week = 61.25mg

1 3/4ml for the third week = 61.25mg

1 1/2ml for the fourth week = 52.5mg


closest and easiest way to dose it.

Thanks man sounds good.

 

[ISU152]

Haven't read through everyone's responses but with this being your first SD run 30 might be too high. You will also want to run some Liv.52 during your cycle.
Definitely taper off your Clomid, I'm doing 75/50/50/25.
Start taking DAA 12 days before your cycle ends and run it 3g ED through PCT.
If you do take Erase start it on week 3 of PCT and taper it off. Something like 3/3/2/2/1

 

[TLW]

Haven't read through everyone's responses but with this being your first SD run 30 might be too high. You will also want to run some Liv.52 during your cycle.
Definitely taper off your Clomid, I'm doing 75/50/50/25.
Start taking DAA 12 days before your cycle ends and run it 3g ED through PCT.
If you do take Erase start it on week 3 of PCT and taper it off. Something like 3/3/2/2/1

Thank you for the advice I will look in to the liv.52, the forged liver support isn't enough? And I agree the 30 might be too high I was going to start out with 20 for the first two weeks if things are going good I will leave it at that. If I feel like I'm not meeting my goals then I will bump it up to the 30.

 

[TLW]

Another question about this does anyone recommend anything besides clomid i've read a couple more logs and more people seemed to be going with torem or tamox, which would be the best to keep my gains. I already have clomid but am will to put out some more money if the other serms would help me keep my gains better. anyone?

 

[TLW]

bump

 

[ManBeast]

i lean towards clomid or torem myself.

 

[TLW]

i lean towards clomid or torem myself.

So sticking with my clomid would be fine, what would you suggest as the dosing? I was thinking 70/60/60/50

 

[ISU152]

Thank you for the advice I will look in to the liv.52, the forged liver support isn't enough? And I agree the 30 might be too high I was going to start out with 20 for the first two weeks if things are going good I will leave it at that. If I feel like I'm not meeting my goals then I will bump it up to the 30.

Milk Thistle has been shown not to do a whole lot (probably the main ingredient) And liv.52 is pretty cheap. As far as the dosing goes...ya it will all be based of how your feeling. Reward vs risk

 

[TLW]

Milk Thistle has been shown not to do a whole lot (probably the main ingredient) And liv.52 is pretty cheap. As far as the dosing goes...ya it will all be based of how your feeling. Reward vs risk

alright, i'll order some of that now. thanks!

 

[ISU152]

alright, i'll order some of that now. thanks!

no problem!

 

[Airborne42]

If your running beast go with liv52 bro you song be disappointed... Milk thistle will **** your gains up. I ran liv52, 3 caps a day. 1 4 hours after first dose of sd and 2 4 hours after second dose. G2G bud

 

[TLW]

If your running beast go with liv52 bro you song be disappointed... Milk thistle will **** your gains up. I ran liv52, 3 caps a day. 1 4 hours after first dose of sd and 2 4 hours after second dose. G2G bud

Damn so I should just ditch the forged liver support I just bought? haha i hate wasting money. but better safe then sorry.

 

[TLW]

I'll be starting the cycle this friday, if anyone was interested in following along.

 

[Airborne42]

I would yes

 

[Airborne42]

Milk thistle inhibits androgen receptors well on cycle from studies I have read

 

[TLW]

Milk thistle inhibits androgen receptors well on cycle from studies I have read

alright, i ordered the liv52 the other day, guess i'll just stash the forged liver support for something else.

 

[evodrag]

The cycle itself looks good. But gaining 15lbs while dropping bodyfat by 2.5% in 4 weeks is unrealistic. Im sure you ll make gains on those cals but in return some fat will be put on. But Im interested in your log. GL

 

[TLW]

The cycle itself looks good. But gaining 15lbs while dropping bodyfat by 2.5% in 4 weeks is unrealistic. Im sure you ll make gains on those cals but in return some fat will be put on. But Im interested in your log. GL

I like setting the goals high honestly if i just gain the weight and don't lose any bf I would be happy as I'm already at 9%. Thanks though!

 

[evodrag]

dude

Dude holding 9% is great...Any less would make it hard to hold onto muscle, let alone build any. GL

 

[TLW]

Dude holding 9% is great...Any less would make it hard to hold onto muscle, let alone build any. GL

Thanks man!

 

[ISU152]

If your running beast go with liv52 bro you song be disappointed... Milk thistle will **** your gains up. I ran liv52, 3 caps a day. 1 4 hours after first dose of sd and 2 4 hours after second dose. G2G bud

Where did you get this info from? Not doubting, just would like to read the studies

 

[TLW]

Anyone think it would be necessary for me to throw in a natural test booster, or would the clomid and daa suffice?

 

[Airborne42]

Oxford Journal... A buddy on here and research... Daa is a test booster... It will work best with your serm and erase or an AI of sort

 

[evodrag]

clomid and daa are fine.dont waste your money on anything else

 

[Go Away]

Looking forward to seeing your results.
Before and after pics would be the best gauge of progress. You planning on doing that?

 

[TLW]

Looking forward to seeing your results.
Before and after pics would be the best gauge of progress. You planning on doing that?

Yeah, I will throw up some before and after pics, I'll be posting my diet here soon to get some critiquing on that.

 

[TLW]

Posting a diet of what I most likely will be eating on the cycle,

Breakfast
4 eggs
2 slices whole wheat bread
1 cup of dry oats
2 cups of milk
(1000 calories)

Pre-Lunch Shake
2 Scoops of whey
1 cup of dry oats
1 cup of milk
2 tablespoons of peanut butter
(900 calories)

Lunch
8oz chicken breast
1 cup of brown rice
1 sweet potato
1 cup of steamed broccoli
(580 calories)

Pre Dinner Shake
2 Scoops of whey
1 cup of dry oats
1 cup of milk
2 tablespoons of peanut butter
(900 calories)

Dinner
12 oz sirloin steak
1/2 cup brown rice
1 sweet potato
1 cup of steamed broccoli
(860 calories)

Total Calories is around 4250, I want to try and get around 4500, but eating that much for me can be hard at times.

 

[ManBeast]

throw in some greek yogurt pre-bed for a caloric boost

 

[TLW]

throw in some greek yogurt pre-bed for a caloric boost

haha! yeah, I could probably get my few extra calories out of that, good looking out.

 

[ManBeast]

its also great cuz its slow digesting and will help feed your muscles during the night

 

[TLW]

its also great cuz its slow digesting and will help feed your muscles during the night

Definitely going to go pick some up!

 

[ISU152]

Definitely going to go pick some up!

Get unflavarored. The flavored stuff has a **** load of sugar

 

[mattrag]

For liver I'd use the liv52 on the serm and tucda on cycle.
I tend to only take tucda and take my cycle support always when I am OFF androgens.

 

[TLW]

Get unflavarored. The flavored stuff has a **** load of sugar

haha, good thinking!

 

[TLW]

For liver I'd use the liv52 on the serm and tucda on cycle.
I tend to only take tucda and take my cycle support always when I am OFF androgens.

I've heard about tucda, i'll look in to that. thanks

 

[TLW]

I need a recommended dosing time for the beast, I was thinking when I wake up at 7am, and then an hour pre-workout at 4pm when I get off work, I'll be hitting the gym at 5pm. any suggestions for dosing times?

 

[evodrag]

For the greek yogurt, throw in a half pack of crystal light...no cals and tastes alot better!

 

[ISU152]

For the greek yogurt, throw in a half pack of crystal light...no cals and tastes alot better!

Or if your on SD throw some oats in there...that's what I'm doin. SD loves oats

 

[TLW]

any advice for dosing times for the sd? should I take both preworkout or spread the dose out?

 

[TLW]

also I found a bottle of Antronex in my medicine cabinet I remember a friend telling me it was great for the liver does anyone know anything about it or if I could use this to support the SD?

 

[Airborne42]

Sd loves carbs on general Lmao

 

[Chefbolic]

Sd loves carbs on general Lmao

Holy **** this is true. When I was kicking my test with the transform SD I couldn't walk past the bread rack at work without nabbing a roll or two. I swear I got a pump from simply eating carbs.