Nate Dawgs 1test cyp/4ad cyp/19 nor/dbol/M5aa cycle
12-08-2004 12:47 AM
I totally forgot about putting up back, for back I hit deads, work up to 5rm or 1rm, then usually I will hit on back day, 4 sets of pulldowns 8-10 reps, 3-4 sets of pullups for a burnout, bent over bb rows for 5-12 reps, and then some seated cable rows. My metabolism is super fast I would have to say, this is ridiculous on how much I am eating and how hard it is to gain weight. I have read some other guy's logs at other forums that eat half as much as I do and gain twice as much if not more, I dont get it. I train each body part so intensely that I can only train once a week, when going up to max poundage, I get overtrained really fast, it sucks. Did legs tonight, I felt pretty good, did some box squats to get a feel where I should start my 5x5 program, you want to leave a little room in the first week or so because the plan is to add 10lbs a week to each lift.
12-09-2004 10:29 PM
Did shoulders and tris today, it went really good for the most part, no strength loss and still got a good pump. Today marks 15 days off cycle I believe. Diet still going pretty good, I will try and remember to weigh tomorrow morning when I get up. ZMA is giving me some crazy ass dreams. Sex drive is fine for the most part, there are times where it seems low and others where it is really high, so that is better than being bottomed out all of the time, but very rarely does it ever seem very low, tribulus seems to be doing its thing alright. Did I mention I am ready for my next cycle? LOL
12-10-2004 03:26 AM
Whats the next cycle gonna be?
12-10-2004 01:32 PM
Weighed in at 201 this morning....thats ok I suppose. My next cycle is most likely going to look like this:
week 1-10: 500mg/week test enan
week 1-6: 125mg tren ace eod
week 1-6: 50mg dbol/day
week 11-12: 150mg test prop eod
*possibly do weeks 1-2 with 100mg test prop eod
That is not set in stone, I am 99% sure it will be test/tren/dbol though. I am thinking of possibly just running an 8 weeker of prop the entire time, I am not for sure yet. I will be running HCG 500IU/week the entire time. I just cant decide whether to do an 8 week one with prop the whole time, or do a 12 week cycle with enan ended with prop. What do you all think?
12-10-2004 02:01 PM
Yo man. I would do the 12 weeks. Doin only 8 weeks really cuts back on the amount of time the Test E has to do it's just, imp. Plus it takes the Test E, like, what round 3 weeks or almost 3 to kick it right? 8 weeks or prop, that's a lot of pinnin. If it were me, I'd do 12 bro. Also, do u think u need to run the D bol for 6 weeks? Keep us informed on ur decision, later man.
12-10-2004 03:21 PM
I will most likely do the 12 week cycle. I am starting the cycle approximately 6 weeks before a powerlifting meet I am thinking of doing, so I was gonna run the tren and dbol up to there, then after the meet just test for however much longer I decide. I might have to cut out the dbol before the meet due to painful back pumps making it hard to deadlift and squat, just have to see how it goes. I am not too worried about the toxicity of dbol for 6 weeks, I dont think it is really that hard on ya as long as the proper precautions are taken. M1T is definetly far worse than dbol on many levels, especially cholesterol. I would like to end the last 3-4 weeks with winny, but that would be alot of orals, that would end up being almost 10 weeks of orals if I do the dbol for 6, and I think that could be too much. The best idea I think is just to end with test, if I could find some bold ace to throw in for the last 5-6 weeks that would be nice, but that is probably the only thing I would add at the end. Its high anabolic rating should help hold onto gains better too.
12-10-2004 03:47 PM
cycle looks nice.
Nate would you suggest i get hcg?
12-10-2004 08:26 PM
If you can get HCG I would definetly reccommend it, this is the first time I used it, and I feel better than I ever have coming off cycle. I even feel better than when I did a short 3 week 1ad/4ad cycle, and this was like 13 weeks long or something! I started mine at week 5 I believe, and ran 250IU two times a week and it swelled my nuts back up from the previous 5 weeks of shrinkage and kept them constant throughout the cycle.
12-11-2004 03:09 PM
Weighed in at 202 this morning, so it seems to be balancing between 201 and 202. Did back yesterday and it went really good, strength definetly has not dropped any. Got another decent pump. Next week I am starting that new program, here it is:
For chest I havent decided exactly what I am going to do yet, I am most likely going to go with the westside style of ME benching and switching every two weeks between flat bench, two board press, floor press, and incline bench for my max effort exercise. The other way I am possibly thinking of doing it is starting with flat bench every week, and this next week hit something that I can get for a max of 6 reps, then each week I will keep adding 5lbs until it eventually adds up to where I am doing a 1RM. I cant decide yet. This monday I am going to be borrowing one of my friends bench shirts and see how that works, never tried one before.
Back: Bent over BB rows-5 sets 5-10 reps, T-Bar rows-5 sets 5-10 reps
Tuesday: Legs- Heavy 5x5 straight set
Squat warm up to my starting weight for my 5 sets of 5 and then perform 5x5 at that weight.
Straight leg deadlift: 3x8-10
Arnold presses: 4x 6-10
Skull crushers: 4x6-10
Overhead DB extension: 4x6-10
DB side lateral: 3x8-12
DB rear lateral: 3x8-12
Thursday: Squat 5x5 15-20% lower than tuesdays weight, upper back/bis
Warmup to weight I will use for my 5x5 that is 15-20% lighter than tuesdays sets, and perform 5 sets of 5 at that weight.
pullups- 4 sets to burn out
barbell curls 5x5-12
Hammer curls 3x6-10
Saturday: Squat 5x5
On squats keep building up to a 5RM
Deadlift standing on 45lb plate, working on speed mostly, not building up real heavy, I think squatting 3 times a week should be plenty of work, and I dont want to get my lower back all fried out.
upright rows 4x8-12
I will be doing this program for 5 weeks. The plan for the squatting is for the first week or two not to be a killer, that way you can add 10lbs each week to each squat day. By week 5 it should be pretty tough, that will be 50lbs over my starting weight. All squats are performed on a 13.5in tall box, relax hips at bottom then explode up, not a touch and go. Tell me what you all think of the program, I think it should work pretty good.
12-16-2004 01:52 AM
Did chest on monday, did flat bench in a double poly shirt, it was definetly different and took some getting used to. I cant really judge how my strength was since 1) I was in a shirt 2) pausing at the bottom 3) finally forced myself to glue my ass to the bench, so I am not for sure how it is compared to on cycle. All the weights felt like they normally did, so I am not too worried about it.
Did legs yesterday, starting my 5x5 routine. Went pretty ****ty to tell you the truth, mentally i wasnt there at all and i was feeling like I had a fever/catching a cold. Feel all better now though so that is good.
Shoulders and tris went today, arnold presses were down 2 reps from last week, but my shoulders were still pretty sore from benching monday, must have been something with the shirt because usually my shoulders are never sore from chest day unless i do alot of inclines. All tri exercises stayed at the same weight as last week, so going ok.
I have lost around an inch off my waist since I have came off, and have seemed to shed a bit more water, but damn i hate the feeling of losing all that fullness, I feel so small!! Libido still going good and still havent crashed really, feel pretty good all around.
12-21-2004 06:22 PM
Yo man, how goes it...............How's the training and how is your weight holdin up ?
12-23-2004 10:47 PM
Weight is holding steady, and the workouts are going decent. I dont have as much endurance, but workouts are still going good. Feel pretty recovered actually as far as natty test levels, which I am quite pleased with.
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