Nate Dawgs 1test cyp/4ad cyp/19 nor/dbol/M5aa cycle
09-09-2004 06:06 PM
godsmack one of my fav bands!!! Goodluck with your cycle bro......
Originally Posted by Nate Dawg
09-09-2004 08:03 PM
Thanks Cartman! Greenguy, the pain has resided quite a bit today, the knot seems to have dissapated also, it was probably about 1 inch under the skin...i am guessing.Funny you said that it could be subq cuz I was actually thinking it could have been slightly subq, when I think back on the shot, my angle seemed a little off from normal, and it just felt a little different going in, but i dunno for sure. It is getting better so I am happy. The post by knox was actually by me...I was on his computer and forgot to log out from when he was on last, we're neighbors.
09-10-2004 02:26 PM
Did shoulders/traps yesterday, and presses were up around 10lbs, db raises were up 5lbs. Shrugs were up big time. Okay, not to what is pissing me the hell off....I weighed this morning and am still 198lbs...WTF? As of today I have been on dbol for 14 days, and that is only a 4lb gain. My diet is in check, I will post it so you can all have an idea of what I am eating, it isnt real clean on fats or anything, but I just want to put on some serious size:
Meal 1: 40g protein shake, 6 eggs, 1/2cup rice or oatmeal, 24oz 1%milk
Meal 2: 2 Hamburgers, 1 burrito, 1/2 cup rice, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 32oz milk
Meal 3: 2 peanut butter & honey sandwiches, 32 oz milk
Meal 4: 6oz tuna, 1 pb& honey sandwich
Meal 5: Postworkout: 40g whey, 50g gatorade carbs,
Meal 6: 1hr later: 5 eggs, 1 burrito, 1/2 cup rice
Meal 7: before bed: 1 can tuna and 32oz milk
It probably wouldnt hurt to eat even more, but I cant figure out how in the hell I am not gaining more weight, I mean I can feel the dbol working, and it isnt in my head, and I am pretty sure it isnt the 1test or 4ad because they are probably just barely starting to kick in yet. I have been taking 40mg m5aa to help with control water a bit, but I didnt think that it would hurt my weight gain really. It has me questioning if the dbol could be underdosed or something, I started at 20mg/day, now for the last week have been at 35mg, probably going to jump to 50mg now, this is pissing me off that I cant gain that much weight, but i dont think it is fake because I am getting some decent strength gains so far and can "feel" it. If anyone has any opinions, i would appreciate it. Another thing I am having problems with is pinning my left quad, I have tried it 3 times, and every single time I hit a nerve, not once have I been able to inject anything in it yet. My right quad goes awesome, no problems at all, I compare sites and they are the same on each leg where I am sticking, possibly my left quad has more nerves in that area? I am using a 1.5in pin, and when I do my right quad i leave about a 1/4inch sticking out, so maybe i just need to get some 1in pins for that, because my left quad is fine for probably the first 3/4-1 inch in, then all of the sudden BAM, leg tweaks all out and ****. If anyone has any help for this, that would be awesome.
09-10-2004 02:53 PM
Well considering you are running the m5aa, it could be keeping you from bloating too much. D-bol packs on a lot of water weight, so if the m5 is helping to keep that off, then I say you are fine. Just keep plugging away, and all will work out fine. Good luck.
09-10-2004 11:23 PM
Pityin' fools since '81
jeez, your nuts are gonna be fried. mebbe i'm just jealous..........
09-11-2004 12:25 AM
Thats what the HCG is for chasec . Today went awesome for tris/bis. Close grip bench was up big time from last week, last week did 295x2 going halfway down just to work the tris and not chest, so today I decided to go all the way down and got 315x2, and then 335x1. All other accessory lifts were up good also. Just ate a large pizza hoping to start packing on some pounds These past few shots have been making me kinda sore, my right glute is sore from last sunday, right quad sore from wednesday, and left glute is getting sore from last night, so i dunno what the deal is with that.
09-14-2004 01:58 AM
Well i did chest today, and it pretty much went like ****. Strength was down about 10lbs, shoulders hurt and so did elbows. The only things that I can think of to explain all of this is that I am not fully recovered from fridays heavy closegrip bench workout, and last night I could not get to sleep for the life of me. I went to bed around 1, and tossed and turned until around 430am, and got up at 8 to go to class, so that kinda sucked. I am just going to forget about todays workout and get ready for next weeks chest workout. I think this week on shoulders I am not going to hit barbell presses as hard due to the shoulder pain, and not do close grip bench for tris to make sure that I am fully recovered for mondays chest workout. Have legs tomorrow, so I am looking forward that, hopefully have a good day.
09-14-2004 02:07 AM
Oh ya, and I weighed 198.5 this morning, so still hovering around a 4.5lb gain after being on dbol for 17 days, kinda weird in my opinion. I feel the M5aa is keeping alot of water off of me, because i dont appear to have the slightest amount of water retention other than my cheeks are just a bit puffier than normal. Another thing that I have noticed which I did not expect at all, is that I seem to be dropping bodyfat, especially in the oblique region, so that too could be another reason for not putting on alot of weight. My nipples started to get really puffy after being on the dbol for only a few days, and when I decided to add the M5aa about 1 week ago, it really made a big difference and really "tightened" them up. These are all just some observations that I have made thus far.
09-15-2004 12:48 PM
Did legs yesterday, squats and deads were up 10lbs each. This morning weighed in at 200.5, so FINALLY starting to put on some weight. I have been getting a few bloody noses lately, usually when i am sleeping is the weird thing, i figured i would get some nice ones yesterday doing squats and deadlifts, but didnt at all. It is always my left nostril that bleeds, never the right one, which is the same way it was when I was on my M1T cycle last may. Last night I gave the 1test a hot water bath for ~30min to see if this helps cut down the pain any. I will keep everyone posted on how tonights shots go, and if they are not as sore as my previous shots.
09-16-2004 01:01 AM
Did back tonight, went pretty good, got a good pump and strength is up again. Did 2.5ml of 1test/4ad mix in left glute tonight, and 1.25ml of the mix in each delt, so we will see how this turns out. Hopefully the water bath fixes all this pain the 1test is causing. I can already tell that my left delt is going to be sore, first time to inject delts and didnt hit as far back as i needed to. It bled like a bitch when I pulled the needle out, so I had my bro take a pic Ah, good times!! It was interesting sticking delts with 1.5in pins, i just stuck it in half way and held it while my bro injected it for me. I still have a minor knot in my left glute from last thursday, it doesnt hurt, but I can feel some tight tissue, and when I stuck the needle all the way in it hurt a bit, had pain kinda like a nerve, but not nearly as intense, just a sharp twinge. Well, hopefully I will be the bearer of good news here in the next few days and report absolutely no soreness!! I am kinda doubting it though.
09-17-2004 01:09 AM
Well it is the day after, and my left glute has very minimal soreness, I dont even notice it untill i think of it. Both of my delts are fairly sore, but I attribute that to being the first time doing delts, and the needle was moving around a fair amount while injecting. I had shoulders tonight, it bothered me just a little, but not bad. I havent done seated DB presses since around last april or so, and today got a personal best by far, got 100x5, and my previous best in april was something like 90x3, so I would say it was a pretty good day, especially considering my shoulders each had a pin stuck in them last night and were sore today. All other lifts such as DB raises and BB shrugs were up today also. Hopefully the water bath helped things out and nothing knots up on me in the next few days.
09-17-2004 12:28 PM
glad to hear the soreness in your ass is finally gone, i once knew a guy named Vance that told me sticking things in your ass could make it sore ....
09-17-2004 03:28 PM
Well, it is the second day after the injects, and still only minor soreness, not bad at all really. I think hot water baths may be the solution to the 1test pain, probably wont fix it all, but at least will minimize the pain.
Glenihan I told you not to tell anyone you sum bitch
09-17-2004 11:53 PM
Did arms today, all lifts were up in weight. My elbows have been killing me lately, skull crushers hurt so bad, but I just try and work through it. It pisses me off because it doesnt hurt real bad until I lock out my elbows, so I am having a hard time getting the contractions that I want. I had a really bad headache today, I think it is just mainly from stress, I have a big human body test on monday that I am kinda worried about, and I think I would have some more gains if this class wasnt stressing me so bad, but I am doing my best at not letting it get to me. I got a really good pump today in my bis, they were hurting pretty bad by the end of the workout, but it was nice. For a side note, I am at 50mg of dbol.
09-21-2004 02:28 AM
Did chest today, strength was up 5lbs on bench. I was surprised todays workout went so well, I was expecting it to be horrible. I had a big test today that I had been pretty stressed about, then last night I was getting the night sweats and chills off and on all night long and slept terrible, and then when I woke up I felt sick, just really weak and like I had a fever, but I checked my temp and I was fine. My diet sucked today due to being in class all day long and feeling like **** early on in the day I couldnt get down as much food as I wanted. I will get a weigh in tomorrow for you guys. Last night injecting, I must have passed through a vein or something, I aspirated and no blood and I am still alive so that is good, but right after my inject I could taste this oily/alcohol taste in my mouth, and then I started coughing pretty hard for around 10 minutes, and even today I cant take a very deep breath or I will start coughing, feels like some fluid is in my lungs or something. It may have nothing to do with the injection and I could be catching a cold or something, but I first noticed it right after the inject last night. My vascularity has increased alot, especially in my shoulders and forearms. Hell, you ought to see the vascularity increase in my wang!!!
09-21-2004 05:37 PM
Weighed in today at 203lbs this morning after a super long leak. So that is a 9lb gain so far.
09-21-2004 10:47 PM
Did legs today, strength was up today pretty good. Squats went really well, I did them without a box today, and the past 3 weeks have been doing them off this low ass box. Deadlifts went really well today also....basically my hamstrings are annhilated, after 6 sets of squats, 8 sets of deadlifts, lunges, and glute/ham raise superset with leg extensions I am toast!! It was a really good workout. Last week went pretty good for weight gain, hopefully I can gain another 3-5lbs this week. Still trying to keep the diet clean, but every 3 or 4 days, I will eat a large pizza to spike the calories
09-22-2004 02:04 PM
keep up the weight gain brotha
09-22-2004 02:38 PM
Weighed in at 204.5 this morning. I am starting to notice a fair amount of bloat in my face, but not really anywhere else. I asked a few of my friends today if they could tell my face has gotten puffy, they said it was fairly obvious. Thinking about using some letro, but I am undecided yet. The M5aa was doing a pretty good job of keeping the water off, but I think now that the 4ad is starting to kick in plus the dbol, it is just causing alot of water gain.
09-23-2004 12:50 AM
Did back today, went alright, I was pretty wore out from yesterdays hard leg workout, I think all those squats and deads taxed the CNS pretty hard. I still got in a good workout though for back. Pinned both delts with 1.25ml each and left glute with 2.5ml, each shot was a 50/50 mix of 4ad and 1test. Made the back workout pretty short tonight, got in 6 sets of barbell rows, 4 sets of pullups, 4 sets of seated cable rows and 3 sets of lat pulldowns in 25 minutes. Got a pretty good pump from keeping rest time down, I was suprised that the low rest periods really didnt affect my strength.
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