An Ultradrol Log (not sponsored)

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  1. Day 19 Friday 9-30-11 (yesterday's date was wrong obvioulsy) 12g Ultra

    Weight= 221lbs (+9)

    Calories still around 3,500 per day.

    Worked back today. Felt great. Muscles are definately popping out more. I increased my weights around ten lbs on average.

    Day 20 Saturday: weight was 221 still. Did shoulders. Did around the same weight. Will log weights next week.

    Day 21: Sunday no workout. OFF day. Weight = 222lbs (+10)

    Should be rested enough now to pump some good iron all week.
    Last edited by TXCope; 10-04-2011 at 04:02 PM. Reason: spelling


  2. Day 22 Monday 10-3-11

    Weight=222lbs (+10)

    Wow for today's workout I felt pumped up and strong! Today was Chest.

    Dumbell Press
    10X130
    8X140
    8X150
    6X160
    4X170

    Pec Dec Flyes
    10X160
    8X175
    8X190
    6X205

    Tricep Pushdowns
    10X50
    8X60
    8X70
    5X80

    Hammer strength Incline press
    10X90
    8X140
    8X160

    I threw in some back work since i missed a few sets last week.

    Lat pulldowns
    10X115
    10X130
    8X145
    3X160

    Rows
    8X130
    8X130
    8X130

    I hope this Hulkamania continues through the rest of the week. It feels great. The only sides I have felt was an upset stomach over the weekend and I am not entirely sure that was caused by the Ultradrol.
    Last edited by TXCope; 10-05-2011 at 08:24 AM. Reason: Hit post before finished
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  3. I have a bottle of the new AH by PP, would stacking it with Ultra be ok?

  4. nice log. any pro/cons on this stuff?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by westhockey32
    nice log. any pro/cons on this stuff?
    Are you reading the log? Lol

    I think massive strength gains and 10lbs lbm are the pros and a single upset stomach that can't even be 100% attributed to ultradrol would be the cons....

    Neddles to say I'm very excited....

    As for androhard I'd have to think yet would stack VERY well since its more androgenic and this is very anabolic but still might just get lost in the ultradrol since it sounds like its not all that wet in the first place and strength and libido are still there too....

    Personally of save it or bridge to it to help solidify gains made from ultradrol.
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  6. 3 weeks, +10 pounds, -BodyFat... amazing dude!!!
    - RigzZ

  7. Day 23 Tuesday: could not workout due to having a blowout, changing a tire and waiting at NTB for 3 hours to get a new tire!
    Weighed in at 222lbs (+10)

    Day 24 Wednesday: 12g Ultradrol
    Weight = 223lbs (+11)

    I worked arms today. I felt the pump but not the Hulkamania as much as Monday. Still good though. I definately am noticing the physical size increase and can see more veins and can slightly see the abs popping in now in the mirror! That pumps me up seeing that. In the gym doing arms on Wednesday I really wish I would have pushed my limits a lot more until failure. I think I could have gone up 10 lbs in weight doing the curls.

    Arms:
    Alternating Dumbell curls
    10X35 (warmup)
    10X40
    8X45
    6X50

    Hammer curls
    10X35
    8X35
    8X35

    Bicep curl machine
    10X60
    10X60
    8X70

    200 crunches

    Barbell curls
    10X70
    8X80
    6X80

    Note: This stuff is not as strong as some of the banned PH's but not near the sides either so it is a decent trade off. I am considering going an extra week at 16g. Not sure yet though.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by TXCope View Post
    Day 23 Tuesday: could not workout due to having a blowout, changing a tire and waiting at NTB for 3 hours to get a new tire!
    Weighed in at 222lbs (+10)

    Day 24 Wednesday: 12g Ultradrol
    Weight = 223lbs (+11)

    I worked arms today. I felt the pump but not the Hulkamania as much as Monday. Still good though. I definately am noticing the physical size increase and can see more veins and can slightly see the abs popping in now in the mirror! That pumps me up seeing that. In the gym doing arms on Wednesday I really wish I would have pushed my limits a lot more until failure. I think I could have gone up 10 lbs in weight doing the curls.

    Arms:
    Alternating Dumbell curls
    10X35 (warmup)
    10X40
    8X45
    6X50

    Hammer curls
    10X35
    8X35
    8X35

    Bicep curl machine
    10X60
    10X60
    8X70

    200 crunches

    Barbell curls
    10X70
    8X80
    6X80

    Note: This stuff is not as strong as some of the banned PH's but not near the sides either so it is a decent trade off. I am considering going an extra week at 16g. Not sure yet though.
    Sry to hear about you missing your workout dude. I hate it when situations like that happen right when your mind is set for warzone!!

    I would love to see how 16mg treats ya! I'll be running my cycle at the end of December, seriously debating whether to go with 12mg or 16mg!!
    - RigzZ

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Beast20 View Post
    Sry to hear about you missing your workout dude. I hate it when situations like that happen right when your mind is set for warzone!!

    I would love to see how 16mg treats ya! I'll be running my cycle at the end of December, seriously debating whether to go with 12mg or 16mg!!
    mine will be at the end of december as well!!!

    Ill be def starting at 8mg.... if you look into all the logs, 8mg still kicks in quickly enough and provides results while the serum levels begin to climb.

    No point in wasting product just downing it at 16mg a day right off the bat... this would also allow, in one cycle, for one to use, 8mg/12mg/12mg/16mg and see the full spectrum of effects with each dose.... I think this is def how i will run it, alongside some Transdermal 4-AD and bridge 4 AD solo for 4 weeks to stacked again with M-TRN the last 4... making a total of 12 weeks!

    Should be tasty!

  10. Oh... I wanted to ask... for those that got bottles from the first batch... what was your lot number on the bottom of the bottle with the exp date sticker?

    I ordered mine from a retailer that had 5 from the first lot still in stock but by the time it actually shipped he had in stock 100 or so more from the new lot....

    hoping I got some from the first batch honestly.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    mine will be at the end of december as well!!!

    Ill be def starting at 8mg.... if you look into all the logs, 8mg still kicks in quickly enough and provides results while the serum levels begin to climb.

    No point in wasting product just downing it at 16mg a day right off the bat... this would also allow, in one cycle, for one to use, 8mg/12mg/12mg/16mg and see the full spectrum of effects with each dose.... I think this is def how i will run it, alongside some Transdermal 4-AD and bridge 4 AD solo for 4 weeks to stacked again with M-TRN the last 4... making a total of 12 weeks!

    Should be tasty!
    interesting. seems like a sick cycle. I'll put your advice down in my theories to ponder over these 2 months!
    I'll be running a AH/AM for 8 weeks full dose with the first 4 weeks UD. So I guess both of us will be build to kill by February 2012
    - RigzZ

  12. Yeah I definately think 8g for the first week is good. Then 2 weeks at 12 even though I have done three. I have had absolutely NO sides so I am gonna go at least one more week at 16g. I will definately be watching out for anything to be cautious. I hope to be able to run at 16 for 2 weeks. I will also be taking bloods after. I am at 224lbs now which is a 12 lb increase since the 12th. I am a lil behind on logs but will catch up. I will say that the fat is falling off and I can see the veins and muscles popping out all over the place. It is great.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by TXCope View Post
    Yeah I definately think 8g for the first week is good. Then 2 weeks at 12 even though I have done three. I have had absolutely NO sides so I am gonna go at least one more week at 16g. I will definately be watching out for anything to be cautious. I hope to be able to run at 16 for 2 weeks. I will also be taking bloods after. I am at 224lbs now which is a 12 lb increase since the 12th. I am a lil behind on logs but will catch up. I will say that the fat is falling off and I can see the veins and muscles popping out all over the place. It is great.
    So you'll be extending the cycle to 6 weeks dude? 8/12/12/12/16/16 if I understood correctly?
    - RigzZ

  14. At least one week. I am proceeding with caution though. Any sides or wierdness and I will be stopping it.

  15. Day 25 Thursday 10-6-11

    Weight = 223lbs (+11)

    Worked out legs today.
    On squats for some reason, I cannot seem to get above 410.
    But on the leg extensions, I have increased to 175 on the last set of 6.
    Leg curls increased to 125 on the last set of 6.

    I felt really strong today and that is still with no sides on the 12g Ultra.

  16. Day 26 Friday 10-7-11

    Weight = 224lbs. (+12)

    I worked Back today.

    Lat pulldowns
    10X115
    10X130
    8X145
    6X160

    Cable rows
    10X115
    10X130
    8X145
    8X160
    7X175

    Cut it short with that then did 300 crunches and ran 1 1/2 miles on the treadmill. Felt really strong on the back workout but cut it a little shorted than usual.

  17. Day 27 Saturday OFF no workout. No weight.

    Day 28 Sunday weight = 224lbs (+12)

    Worked Shoulders

    Dumbell Military press
    10X45ea
    10X45
    8X50
    8X55
    7X60

    Side raises
    15X30
    12X30
    12X35
    10X35

    Dumbell Shoulder shrugs
    15X85ea
    13X90
    12x95
    9x100

    2 MILES ON TREADMILL

    I am feeling pretty darn strong on the ultra @ 12g.
    I was considering increasing to 16g for 2 weeks but do not have enough left. I have 15 caps left so I will finish with the last 5 days at 12g with the last day being Friday! Then it will begin PCT for 4 weeks. I was tempted to do 16g but didnt want to buy another bottle without seeing the bloodwork results from this 5 week cycle.

  18. Nice log man! The UD seems to be some great stuff
    Always willing to learn :D

  19. Day 29 Monday 10-10-11

    No workout today

    Weight = 224lbs (+12)

    Day 30 Tuesday

    Weight = 225lbs (+13)

    Worked chest today. Felt pretty good today with good pumps

    Bench press
    10X135
    10X185
    8X185
    8X205
    6X225

    Pec dec machine
    10X145
    10X160
    8X175
    7X190

    Incline press (Machine)
    10X125
    8X140
    8X140
    5X155

    20 min on elliptical

    Man pecs felt great with much needed boost of strength!

  20. Are you always taking it with food? It says on the bottle to take with meals, but I sometimes like to work out 1st thing in the AM, with no food.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by darkwing View Post
    Are you always taking it with food? It says on the bottle to take with meals, but I sometimes like to work out 1st thing in the AM, with no food.
    Technically you "have to" but there are some studies out there pointing to increased absorption with similar compounds when taking with a fatty meal so it is suggested. You don't have to take it before you workout, just divide the dosages up throughout the day.

  22. Yeah I take the 3 caps about 3 hrs before working out with food for sure.

  23. Day 31 Wednesday 10-12-11

    Weight = 225lbs (+13)

    Worked arms today. Amazingly still have no sides thus far.

    Barbell curls
    10X60
    8X70
    8X80
    7X90
    7X100

    Hammer curls
    10X30
    10X30
    10X35
    9X35
    8X40

    Alternating dumbell curls
    10X40
    10X45
    9X50
    7X55
    4X60

    Machine bicep curl
    10X70
    10X70
    9X80
    8X80

    200 crunches

    20 min on elliptical

  24. Day 32 Thursday 10-13-11

    Weight = 226lbs. (+14)

    Workout was legs. I felt a great pump today. My squat was up to 415 this time. Leg extensions went to 190. Leg curls are still at 125lb. I felt my first side effect today from the ultradrol. The back pumps that you get on every other PH. I felt it today. It was not too bad but it took until the end of the fifth week at 12g to feel any sides so I would say that is very good for this product.

  25. This is an AWESOME log and we really needed one like this on Ultradrol - since no one's made up a FAQ for it yet (that I can find).

    You've been on the compound for awhile now TX - how's libido holding up?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    This is an AWESOME log and we really needed one like this on Ultradrol - since no one's made up a FAQ for it yet (that I can find).

    You've been on the compound for awhile now TX - how's libido holding up?
    I agree, great log. This log helped convince me to give UD a try. I am on day 3. (Obviously nothing to report yet)

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Beast20 View Post
    interesting. seems like a sick cycle. I'll put your advice down in my theories to ponder over these 2 months!
    I'll be running a AH/AM for 8 weeks full dose with the first 4 weeks UD. So I guess both of us will be build to kill by February 2012

    Since you mentioned about stacking UD with AM/AH. I thought I might share what was emailed to me from the manufacturer. I was considering stacking UD the same way, so I emailed them for advice, below are the responses:

    Hi Zay,

    The AndroSeries contains CYP3A4 inhibitors. There's some evidence which
    suggests that CYP3A4 inhibition, which really increases the
    bioavailability of certain oral compounds, can also increase the potential
    for methylated androgens to cause liver damage. This is because bile acids
    are also metabolized via CYP3A4, and inhibiting it can retard the
    conversion of toxic bile acids to more liver-friendly ones. So toxic bile
    acids won't be naturally detoxified, and liver damage may eventually
    result...
    ...This is a bit of a two-edged blade. Taking a CYP3A4 inhibitor with UDCA
    or TUDCA may make those liver supports more effective, which would
    actually make your cycle safer.

    So, with all that said, here's what I would suggest: Take UD at a
    responsible dose, take AM and AH if you like, but please take a TUDCA
    product along with 'em to protect your liver.

    Thanks for the interest & support!
    -Jake


    I then emailed back to find out what is the recommended TUDCA to take if I stack it. below is the response I got back:

    As far as I know, Thermolife's "Liver Longer" is the only TUDCA product on
    the market right now. It's worth the money. 500mg/day is a solid dose. I
    wouldn't go as low as 250/day.

    Thanks!
    -Jake

  28. Quote Originally Posted by ABNRanger
    Since you mentioned about stacking UD with AM/AH. I thought I might share what was emailed to me from the manufacturer. I was considering stacking UD the same way, so I emailed them for advice, below are the responses:

    Hi Zay,

    The AndroSeries contains CYP3A4 inhibitors. There's some evidence which
    suggests that CYP3A4 inhibition, which really increases the
    bioavailability of certain oral compounds, can also increase the potential
    for methylated androgens to cause liver damage. This is because bile acids
    are also metabolized via CYP3A4, and inhibiting it can retard the
    conversion of toxic bile acids to more liver-friendly ones. So toxic bile
    acids won't be naturally detoxified, and liver damage may eventually
    result...
    ...This is a bit of a two-edged blade. Taking a CYP3A4 inhibitor with UDCA
    or TUDCA may make those liver supports more effective, which would
    actually make your cycle safer.

    So, with all that said, here's what I would suggest: Take UD at a
    responsible dose, take AM and AH if you like, but please take a TUDCA
    product along with 'em to protect your liver.

    Thanks for the interest & support!
    -Jake

    I then emailed back to find out what is the recommended TUDCA to take if I stack it. below is the response I got back:

    As far as I know, Thermolife's "Liver Longer" is the only TUDCA product on
    the market right now. It's worth the money. 500mg/day is a solid dose. I
    wouldn't go as low as 250/day.

    Thanks!
    -Jake
    Thank you very much for sharing this info. It's great when a product developer is this educated on their own product (as they all aren't) and willing to share this info as opposed to just suggesting high friggin doses to sell more product.
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  29. No problem, seems that Liver Longer is in high demand. It is out of stock on NP. I am gonna hunt for it over the internet. It cost $73 from Thermolife, and only $40 on NP.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by ABNRanger View Post
    Since you mentioned about stacking UD with AM/AH. I thought I might share what was emailed to me from the manufacturer. I was considering stacking UD the same way, so I emailed them for advice, below are the responses:

    Hi Zay,

    The AndroSeries contains CYP3A4 inhibitors. There's some evidence which
    suggests that CYP3A4 inhibition, which really increases the
    bioavailability of certain oral compounds, can also increase the potential
    for methylated androgens to cause liver damage. This is because bile acids
    are also metabolized via CYP3A4, and inhibiting it can retard the
    conversion of toxic bile acids to more liver-friendly ones. So toxic bile
    acids won't be naturally detoxified, and liver damage may eventually
    result...
    ...This is a bit of a two-edged blade. Taking a CYP3A4 inhibitor with UDCA
    or TUDCA may make those liver supports more effective, which would
    actually make your cycle safer.

    So, with all that said, here's what I would suggest: Take UD at a
    responsible dose, take AM and AH if you like, but please take a TUDCA
    product along with 'em to protect your liver.

    Thanks for the interest & support!
    -Jake


    I then emailed back to find out what is the recommended TUDCA to take if I stack it. below is the response I got back:

    As far as I know, Thermolife's "Liver Longer" is the only TUDCA product on
    the market right now. It's worth the money. 500mg/day is a solid dose. I
    wouldn't go as low as 250/day.

    Thanks!
    -Jake
    Thanks very much for that info Zay! I heard from Jake that PP's Liverjuice (2 servings a day) would be safe enough for a 4 week cycle @ a responsible dosage. However I haven't specified that I'd be running it along with a full dose of AM/AH.... So, it's probably best to stack 500mg's a day of Liver Longer along with 2 servings of Liverjuice a day correct?
    - RigzZ
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