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    My GH IGF1 SLIN TRT PCT/Bridge Cycle


    My GH IGF1 SLIN TRT PCT/Bridge Cycle

    Operation “Stay Swole”



    Last 18 months have been productive

    PCT/Bridge 3 - 4 months


    HG SLIN IGF1 Recovery Cruise
    Test Cyp 200mg EW
    Proviron 100mg ED pre bed


    GOALS

    maintain mass on igf/slin/HG PCT/Bridge cycle also help repair left shoulder now 90% normal, bring up lagging body parts (arms)

    HGH
    7 days a week
    as Im on a pct recovery maintenance log, use 4ius gh ED before go to bed, and 6 ius on days I train back, chest and legs. do all shots intra muscular into the damaged shoulder.

    IGF1
    Igf bilateral 30 mcg 30 mins IM pre WO days bis/shoulders and tris/chest 120mcg total, Legs will pin calves. All pinnng will be done up and down the muscle.

    SLIN
    Eat half of breakfast Pre WO meal, shoot 5ius then consume 50g dextrose/glucos and creatine glutamine, protein shake. then resume, it peaks in 30 mins so I want carbs in seconds after 10 mins of shot, then shoot 5ius post training with protein, aminos, creatine and obviously 50g fast sugar.dextrose glucose.

    Pre Wo Carbs total 90g Pre WO, 110g Post WO both to contain at least 50g fast acting carbs

    Will be using Humalog rapid acting insulin

    I have done extensive research and i am fully aware of the multiple fifferent protocols and the synergies between these compounds and AAS and this was determined to be the best protocol that suits my goals

    Training
    new split, body will then grow to adapt to new stress, reason iv grown off
    chest,tris
    back,
    rest
    legs
    shoulders, biceps.
    rest
    rest

    I will be increasing volume on sets but not going to failure, this ensures a full muscle and not too taxing on cns and ill need extra rest day to combat fact i cant synthesis protein as rapidly on 200mg test cyp, cortisol is more rampant off so combat by adding rest day.

    Cardio 3 x 40 min steady state EW will try to do AM fasted when possible
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    Special thanks go out to all of those that have continued to follow and support and of course Scott for helping me put this all together

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    Subbed for the ensuing slaughter!!!

    You may enjoy 200 mg. of Cyp each week more than you think mate. I started my self-prescribed TRT at that dose and felt it. I upped it to 300 mgs. according to my own recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    Special thanks go out to all of those that have continued to follow and support and of course Scott for helping me put this all together

    So that is where my six pack has been. Tell him to give it back...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Subbed for the ensuing slaughter!!!

    You may enjoy 200 mg. of Cyp each week more than you think mate. I started my self-prescribed TRT at that dose and felt it. I upped it to 300 mgs. according to my own recommendations.

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    Ed, I have followed most of your entire run through. Awesome! Keep at it brother. Can't wait to see the progress that is going to come.
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    Peptide log!!!! I always wanted to follow a slin hgh igf1 stack
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    yo bro i hope operation peptide/pct goes as good as operation swole! im in this til the end brother!

    im also adding cjc1295 when i add tren and running it throughout my PCT too
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    My GH IGF1 SLIN TRT PCT/Bridge Cycle

    Operation “Stay Swole”

    Took 6ius HGH last night in the bad shoulder was suprised that it stung but no big deal

    Decided to hold off on the SLIN for a week while i get a feel for the IGF1 by itself first

    This morning took all my normal Pre WO supps

    Clen 200mcg
    ASGT 2 scoops
    PW 1 1/2 scoops
    and some NO Infuse


    Pre Wo Drink 90g Carbs 60g protein

    30 minutes pre WO pinned front delts and inside of biceps 30mcg per site with 1/2 cc slin pin

    Was a very strange feeling at first i thought it must be the sting from the AA (Acetic Acid) but it felt more like a muscle fullness as if i had just finished a bicep WO and was more pronounced in the biceps and the shoulders.

    Started out with some light standing DB curls **** the pumps were insanely painful to the point i thought i might struggle to finish WO, so i decided to work out with slower and much lighter weights than normal with higer reps and really concentrate on the contraction.

    Bis
    Completed 4 exercises 3 sets

    preacher narrow EZ bar curls
    EZ bar standing wide grip
    Incline DB curls
    one arm cable curls from the bottom

    All done with perfect form, damn my bis were on fire

    Shoulders
    Shoulder continues to improve so with the help of some HGH confident we will be getting them weight up back again.

    At this point in 70 minutes past the IGF1 applications so i know it not the AA this IGF1 is legit shoulders were good and pumped and sore but in a good way

    4 exercises 3 sets
    Lateral raises
    Reverse Peck Deck
    Machine Shoulder Presses
    1 arm cable lateral raises

    All done with perfect form

    Used Slin Shot 3 caps 15 mins later
    Post WO drink with aminos creatine etc
    110g Carbs 60 fast acting 50 oats, 50g Protein

    60 minutes later 9oz steak 1 cup of oats

    Its now 3 1/2 hoours from initial inject and they still feel full and sore my kind of sore
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    hell yeah looks like you're precise with everything... i might have to write down some notes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernCharm View Post
    hell yeah looks like you're precise with everything... i might have to write down some notes!
    Ill do my best to keep this as detailed as possible and also talk about some of the synergies and strategies that are being used not just in my plan but other protocols
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    thats awesome bro, i know youre a busy man but if you could shoot me that protocol we talked about before I would really appreciate it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkd0c View Post
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    Just thought I'd point something out about GH that you might look into. It is recommended to use GH upon waking. Your body releases it's own pulse of GH a few hours after you go to sleep. If you shoot the GH before bed it does work as a negative feedback depriving you of your own pulse.

    GH doesn't have shutdown like Testosterone, and even while using exogenous GH your own levels will most likely not be affected during and after....except if you use it right before your own natural pulse.

    Edit: I guess you would not want to take it pre workout either as working out causes a GH pulse.
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    yah keep injection part of igf and hgh detailed that's the most interesting part btw did u inject 15/15 each bicep ?
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    In Ed. I followed your other one, just didnt say much...Been real busy though. Man looking jacked brother!!! Get SWOLE!!!

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    Subbed... Ed are these IM injections or subQ? I know slin is subQ for sure but what about others? Sorry if I missed it and it was already mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I am in thanks for the invite Ed!

    Oh yeah AND I was first!!!!! Nana,Nana, Boo Boo!
    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Subbed for the ensuing slaughter!!!

    You may enjoy 200 mg. of Cyp each week more than you think mate. I started my self-prescribed TRT at that dose and felt it. I upped it to 300 mgs. according to my own recommendations.

    I'm my favorite doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    So that is where my six pack has been. Tell him to give it back...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    I'm in!

    Ed you've pack a huge chunk of muscle on your chest! Damn.
    I really focused on chest and back for the last 18 months and my bench press which really did come along. I had some help here from MW Power Lifting champion Chris Duffin aka Kabuzki here at AM

    So yes did OK but unfortunately my bis/tris are lagging way behind
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Not too late for a change!! Here bro, you're looking great already, looking fwd to the continued progress!!
    Thanks mate

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    Ed, I have followed most of your entire run through. Awesome! Keep at it brother. Can't wait to see the progress that is going to come.
    Thanks for following along bro, ill try not to disappoint

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Peptide log!!!! I always wanted to follow a slin hgh igf1 stack
    Well here it is but to be clear these compounds can be used for many different protocols with different timing to achieve different goals

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    Lol, I like the operations names.
    Cheers

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernCharm View Post
    yo bro i hope operation peptide/pct goes as good as operation swole! im in this til the end brother!

    im also adding cjc1295 when i add tren and running it throughout my PCT too
    cjc1295 works very well with GHRP6

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    Yes you have and i appreciate the continued support

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZamaMan View Post
    Thanks for the invite I'm def Gonna follow. I might be ordering some IGF in a couple weeks for my cut so I can't wait to see what it does for you.

    I'd repp you but I gotta spread it around first.
    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver3CSRT8 View Post
    In. HGH is soo damn tempting!
    Yea ive been researching since day 1 as i knew the day would come but i didnt think it would be part of a PCT protocol.. Was thinking more along the lines of a bulker as works best with AAS for this purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    yah keep injection part of igf and hgh detailed that's the most interesting part btw did u inject 15/15 each bicep ?
    No i did 30mcg in each body part bis and shoulders for a total of 120mcg

    Ive got 6000mcg

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    In Ed. I followed your other one, just didnt say much...Been real busy though. Man looking jacked brother!!! Get SWOLE!!!
    Cheers mate

    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Subbed... Ed are these IM injections or subQ? I know slin is subQ for sure but what about others? Sorry if I missed it and it was already mentioned.
    Slin is normally taken Sub Q however in body building circles it is often used IM... There is an interesting bulking protocol that calls for GH and Slin same pin PWO IM, ill try to cover all of these at some stage of the game for everyones information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey851 View Post
    Just thought I'd point something out about GH that you might look into. It is recommended to use GH upon waking. Your body releases it's own pulse of GH a few hours after you go to sleep. If you shoot the GH before bed it does work as a negative feedback depriving you of your own pulse.

    GH doesn't have shutdown like Testosterone, and even while using exogenous GH your own levels will most likely not be affected during and after....except if you use it right before your own natural pulse.

    Edit: I guess you would not want to take it pre workout either as working out causes a GH pulse.
    Ill get back to this one in some detail

    I have researched many protocols and there is no right answer here

    am, pm and post WO... Different horses for different courses but you will find on many other forums pros using the PM strategies, i promise to elaborate

    I have some very interesting studies and want to get back to this post in some detail as to why im going with PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey851 View Post
    Just thought I'd point something out about GH that you might look into. It is recommended to use GH upon waking. Your body releases it's own pulse of GH a few hours after you go to sleep. If you shoot the GH before bed it does work as a negative feedback depriving you of your own pulse.

    GH doesn't have shutdown like Testosterone, and even while using exogenous GH your own levels will most likely not be affected during and after....except if you use it right before your own natural pulse.

    Edit: I guess you would not want to take it pre workout either as working out causes a GH pulse.
    Ill get back to this one in some detail....

    I have researched many protocols and there is no right answer here

    am, pm and post WO, IM and sub Q... Different horses for different courses but you will find on many other forums pros using the PM strategies, i promise to elaborate

    GH doesn't have shutdown like Testosterone, and even while using exogenous GH your own levels will most likely not be affected during and after....except if you use it right before your own natural pulse.
    The use of exogenous GH does not close down natural production like with AAS this is important to note

    pre bed best, all lot of pros do it, you only produce natty GH in rem sleep, so you take GH pre bed and its in in 20 and done, GH has a very short half life 20-30 minutes, then rem sleep kicks in and natty surge, synthetic exogenous GH cant blunt natural GH

    I wont have a surge post, GH is secreted in line with stress so its secreted during workout and if you read how GH works properly you will see u shudnt use after workout as no adnrogens present to grow damaged tissue as damaged tissue needs igf which I already took

    HGH is converted into IGF-1 in the liver,r, so if you take before bed you have had 2 gh spikes not one long one, you see
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    Understanding IGF-1
    By Bryan Hay****

    To understand how IGF-1 works you have to understand how muscles grow. The ability of muscle tissue to constantly regenerate in response to activity makes it unique. Itís ability to respond to physical/mechanical stimuli depends greatly on what are called satellite cells. Satellite cells are muscle precursor cells. You might think of them as "pro-muscle" cells. They are cells that reside on and around muscle cells. These cells sit dormant until called upon by growth factors such as IGF-1. Once this happens these cells divide and genetically change into cells that have nuclei identical to those of muscle cells. These new satellite cells with muscle nuclei are critical if not mandatory to muscle growth.

    Without the ability to increase the number of nuclei, a muscle cell will not grow larger and its ability to repair itself is limited. The explanation for this is quite simple. The nucleus of the cell is where all of the blue prints for new muscle come from. The larger the muscle, the more nuclei you need to maintain it. In fact there is a "nuclear to volume" ratio that cannot be overridden. Whenever a muscle grows in response to functional overload there is a positive correlation between the increase in the number of myonuclei and the increase in fiber cross sectional area (CSA). When satellite cells are prohibited from donating new nuclei, overloaded muscle will not grow (Rosenblatt,1992 & 1994; Phelan,1997). So you see, one important key to unnatural muscle growth is the activation of satellite cells by growth factors such as IGF-1.

    IGF-1 stimulates both proliferation (an increase in cell number) and differentiation (a conversion to muscle specific nuclei) in an autocrine-paracrine manner, although it induces differentiation to a much greater degree. This is in agreement with the Dual Effector theory. In fact, you can inject a muscle with IGF-1 and it will grow! Studies have shown that , when injected locally, IGF-1 increases satellite cell activity, muscle DNA content, muscle protein content, muscle weight and muscle cross sectional area (Adams,1998).

    On the very cutting edge of research scientists are now discovering the signaling pathway by which mechanical stimulation and IGF-1 activity leads to all of the above changes in satellite cells, muscle DNA content, muscle protein content, muscle weight and muscle cross sectional area just outlined above. This research is stemming from studies done to explain cardiac hypertrophy. It involves a muscle enzyme called calcineurin which is a phosphatase enzyme activated by high intracellular calcium ion concentrations (Dunn, 1999). Note that overloaded muscle is characterized by chronically elevated intracellular calcium ion concentrations. Other recent research has demonstrated that IGF-1 increases intracellular calcium ion concentrations leading to the activation of the signaling pathway, and subsequent muscle fiber hypertrophy (Semsarian, 1999; Musaro, 1999). I am by no means a geneticist so I hesitated even bringing this new research up. In summary the researchers involved in these studies have explained it this way, IGF-1 as well as activated calcineurin, induces expression of the transcription factor GATA-2, which accumulates in a subset of myocyte nuclei, where it associates with calcineurin and a specific dephosphorylated isoform of the transcription factor nuclear factor of activated T cells or NF-ATc1. Thus, IGF-1 induces calcineurin-mediated signaling and activation of GATA-2, a marker of skeletal muscle hypertrophy, which cooperates with selected NF-ATc isoforms to activate gene expression programs leading to increased contractile protein synthesis and muscle hypertrophy. Did you get all that?


    IGF-1 Usage
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    IGF stands for insulin-like growth factor. It is a natural substance that is produced in the human body and is at its highest natural levels during puberty. During puberty IGF is the most responsible for the natural muscle growth that occurs during these few years. There are many different things that IGF does in the human body; I will only mention the points that would be important for physical enhancement. Among the effects the most positive are increased amino acid transport to cells, increased glucose transport, increased protein synthesis, decreased protein degradation, and increased RNA synthesis.

    When IGF is active it behaves differently in different types of tissues. In muscle cells proteins and associated cell components are stimulated. Protein synthesis is increased along with amino acid absorption. As a source of energy, IGF mobilizes fat for use as energy in adipose tissue. In lean tissue,

    IGF prevents insulin from transporting glucose across cell membranes. As a result the cells have to switch to burning off fat as a source of energy.

    IGF also mimic's insulin in the human body. It makes muscles more sensitive to insulin's effects, so if you are a person that currently uses insulin you can lower your dosage by a decent margin to achieve the same effects, and as mentioned IGF will keep the insulin from making you fat.

    Perhaps the most interesting and potent effect IGF has on the human body is its ability to cause hyperplasia, which is an actual splitting of cells. Hypertrophy is what occurs during weight training and steroid use, it is simply an increase in the size of muscle cells. See, after puberty you have a set number of muscle cells, and all you are able to do is increase the size of these muscle cells, you don't actually gain more. But, with IGF use you are able to cause this hyperplasia which actually increases the number of muscle cells present in the tissue, and through weight training and steroid usage you are able to mature these new cells, in other words make them grow and become stronger. So in a way IGF can actually change your genetic capabilities in terms of muscle tissue and cell count. IGF proliferates and differentiates the number of types of cells present. At a genetic level it has the potential to alter an individuals capacity to build superior muscle density and size.

    There is a lot of talk about the similarity between IGF and growth hormone. The most often asked question is simply which is more effective. GH doesn't directly cause your muscles to grow, it works very indirectly by increasing protein synthesis capabilities, increasing the amount of insulin a person can use effectively, and increasing the amount of anabolic steroids a person can use effectively. GH also indirectly causes muscle growth by stimulating the release of IGF when it (the GH) is destroyed in the human body. So one way you could look at it as GH being a precursor to IGF. So to put it simple IGF is more effective at directly causing muscle growth and density increases. IGF is also much more cost effective.

    IGF can also be effectively used by itself and gains will still be easily noticeable. With growth hormone you need to use high amounts of anabolics and often insulin to see any gains at all, this is not the case with IGF. IGF can be used by itself and is often used by bodybuilders who bridge between cycles, during this bridge is a good time to use IGF since it has no effect on natural testosterone production so it will therefore allow you to return to normal in terms of hormone levels. A stack of IGF, PGF2a, HCG, and clomid would be a good bridge stack and would allow your body to return to normal and still allow you to retain and make new gains.

    IGF is a research drug, it hasn't been approved by the FDA for use as a pharmaceutical and it is currently being researched for nerve tissue repair, possible burn victims, and also as a possible aid in muscle wasting for AIDS patients. There are many different analogs of IGF available, instead of mentioning them all, I will simply mention the two most common and the most effective. Regular recombinant IGF is one of the two, it is also the more expensive and the least effective. Regular IGF only has a half-life of about 10-20 minutes in the human body and is quickly destroyed, it can be combined with certain binding proteins to extend the half-life, but it is not a very simple procedure and there is a more effective and less expensive version available. The most effective form of IGF is Long R3 IGF-1, it has been chemically altered and has had amino acid changes which cause it to avoid binding to proteins in the human body and allow it to have a much longer half life, around 20-30 hours. "Long R3 IGF-1 is an 83 amino acid analog of IGF-1 comprising the complete human IGF-1 sequence with the substition of an Arg(R) for the Glu(E) at position three, hence R3, and a 13 amino acid extension peptide at the N terminus. This analog of IGF-1 has been produced with the purpose of increasing the biological activity of the IGF peptide."

    "Long R3 IGF-1 is signifacantly more potent than IGF-1. The enhanced potency is due to the decreased binding of Long R3 IGF-1 to all known IGF binding proteins. These binding proteins normally inhibit the biological actions of IGF's."

    It is also not as expensive since a media grade version is available which is sufficient for bodybuilding use. There is also a receptor grade available but it is VERY expensive and the only noticeable difference between the two would only be able to be noticed in a laboratory setting. The price on the black market for Long R3 IGF-1 can be seen anywhere from $200-$500 per milligram depending on the source.

    The most effective length for a cycle of IGF is 50 days on and 20-40 days off. The most controversy surrounding Long R3 IGF-1 is the effective dosage. The most used dosages range between 20mcg/day to 120+mcg/day. IGF is only available by the milligram, one mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 20mcg/day, 2mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 40mcg/day, 3mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 60mcg/day, 4mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 80mcg/day and so on. The dosage issue mainly revolves around how much money you have to spend, plenty of people use the minimum dosage of 20mcg/day and are happy with the results, and in fact several top bodybuilders use the 20mcg/day dosage and are pleased with the results. IGF is most effective when administered subcutaneously and injected once or twice daily at your current dosage. The best time for injections is either in the morning and/or immediately after weight training.

    Another frequently asked question of IGF refers to the real world results, in terms of pure weight gain don't expect to gain 5 lbs. a week like you may off of anadrol or a similar steroid. The only weight you will gain from IGF use is pure lean muscle tissue, with steroids most of the weight gained is water weight. With an effective dosage you can expect to gain 1-2 lbs of new lean muscle tissue every 2-3 weeks and these effects can be increased with the use of testosterone, anabolic steroids, and insulin use. Increased vascularity is also very common, people report seeing veins appear where they never have before. And yet another effect reported is the ability to stay lean while bulking with heavy dosages of steroids and TONS of food while on an IGF cycle, this is perhaps the most pleasing effect. Increased pumps are also noticeable almost immediately, the pumps can almost become painful, pumps are even noticeable when doing cardio.

    Overall, IGF is a very exciting drug due to its ability to alter ones genetic capabilities. If you can find a trustworthy source and you use it correctly it can be a VERY useful tool in your bodybuilding drug arsenal.
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    yo im new here. how do i start a forum. i want to ask people for advice about my first time cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanks1991 View Post
    yo im new here. how do i start a forum. i want to ask people for advice about my first time cycle
    You mean start a thread

    Go the the relevant sub section, here "anabolics" and hit "NEW TOPIC"

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    Cool man. I've never done HGH, I just remembered reading something like that. Thanks for the info. You really have things dialed in and you have come a long way.
  

  
 

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