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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPanda View Post
    Actually, I would like at least a 1998 model with the LS1 V8 Engine. I was never a fan of Bon Jovi though haha.
    you may want to look for a Firehawk instead

    http://www.firehawk.net/

    it was the firebird formula done over by SLP. Was the fastest dealer available firebird built. I remember taking one for a test drive with a manual transmission, the salesman almost **** himself during the test drive. Whats funny is that when I was looking at Audis, and took a TT and S4 for test drives, it was an older woman salesperson and she said she enjoyed the test drive because generally nobody shopping for an Audi reaches for the edge of its performance envelope during a test drive. Then again, I didn't send the S4 sideways like the Firehawk.

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    You should see some significant improvement in recovery at that max lmg dose. Thats the reason its my favorite compound, i'm an old bastard and I really notice the change in recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    you may want to look for a Firehawk instead

    http://www.firehawk.net/

    it was the firebird formula done over by SLP. Was the fastest dealer available firebird built. I remember taking one for a test drive with a manual transmission, the salesman almost **** himself during the test drive. Whats funny is that when I was looking at Audis, and took a TT and S4 for test drives, it was an older woman salesperson and she said she enjoyed the test drive because generally nobody shopping for an Audi reaches for the edge of its performance envelope during a test drive. Then again, I didn't send the S4 sideways like the Firehawk.
    Haha, that is awesome. I would love to afford a TT. I figured the firehawk would be more expensive. I might be wrong. Hmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I know people in their 40s in NYC who never got a license. A parking spot can run you $700-$1200 a month easily in the right areas. crazy
    This is very true. It's crazy how people just accept it as the norm.

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    You should see some significant improvement in recovery at that max lmg dose. Thats the reason its my favorite compound, i'm an old bastard and I really notice the change in recovery.
    Actually, that seems like the only thing I've really noticed about it so far. The recovery is shocking almost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    There will be times during that cycle in which you will be running two, three, and even four steroids at one time
    It's really not as bad as you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPanda View Post
    Haha, that is awesome. I would love to afford a TT. I figured the firehawk would be more expensive. I might be wrong. Hmm...
    Either that, or if you are mechanically inclined at all, find a plain firebird with a pile of miles on it, but a good body/interior cheap, and buy a crate lt1 engine + install it plus you'll have to redo suspension too odds are. You can get a crate complete ZZ4 engine with 350hp for $5k thats intake, carb, everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Either that, or if you are mechanically inclined at all, find a plain firebird with a pile of miles on it, but a good body/interior cheap, and buy a crate lt1 engine + install it plus you'll have to redo suspension too odds are. You can get a crate complete ZZ4 engine with 350hp for $5k thats intake, carb, everything.
    Well, I'm not mechanically inclined....yet... but I'm sure if I devoted the time and effort I can manage it. I was thinking that originally, but I heard from ls1tech forum that you can only do that to certain years of the firebird. I can't remember offhand what years it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPanda View Post
    It's really not as bad as you think.
    If you want an honest opinion, which I assume you probably don't, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway is: Don't run more than 2 hormones a cycle. I know it sounds like a great plan, but you're gonna pay for it.

    I hope you have some cialis and another liver.

    Pretty short time off too between cycles. I have been guilty of all of the above... and while I'm still alive, I could have been nicer to my body. I've also had to quit a cycle because I tried to go too big with the doses and hormones. at 161. Get bloodwork done. Don't cycle anything till you have normal values again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    If you want an honest opinion, which I assume you probably don't, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway is: Don't run more than 2 hormones a cycle. I know it sounds like a great plan, but you're gonna pay for it.

    I hope you have some cialis and another liver.

    Pretty short time off too between cycles. I have been guilty of all of the above... and while I'm still alive, I could have been nicer to my body. I've also had to quit a cycle because I tried to go too big with the doses and hormones. at 161. Get bloodwork done. Don't cycle anything till you have normal values again.
    I'll definitely get bloodwork done. There's also no reason why I wouldn't want an honest opinion.
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    Dude this is your first cycke and I see it is going well, you next cycle is pretty extreme for a second cycle. Why not try some of those compounds solo and see how you respond ? Or just go with beasrtdrol I'm sure you will have just as much gains and less sides.

    Ps. I will always have love for a grrat american v-8, but now that I have a built subaru I will never go back, not until I can afford a 69 roadrunner with a 440 6 pack
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    Dude this is your first cycke and I see it is going well, you next cycle is pretty extreme for a second cycle. Why not try some of those compounds solo and see how you respond ? Or just go with beasrtdrol I'm sure you will have just as much gains and less sides.

    Ps. I will always have love for a grrat american v-8, but now that I have a built subaru I will never go back, not until I can afford a 69 roadrunner with a 440 6 pack
    As far as the cycle, I may take a longer break. I'm going to see a sports medicine doc in two weeks. I have a lot of things that need taking care of. I'll take care of everything and expect it to take 3-6 months. At that point, I'll either run my mentioned cycle or straight Oral Turinabol. I got what seems to be a legit source.

    On a lighter note, 69 roadrunner is nice! That would definitely be an awesome car with that engine.
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    HEY MAN !!!

    how is going the cycle!?!?

    are you in wich week ?!?!

    GAINS? SIDES ?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by felost View Post
    HEY MAN !!!

    how is going the cycle!?!?

    are you in wich week ?!?!

    GAINS? SIDES ?!?
    It's going well actually. The strange thing is. I'm not experiencing any side effects. I'm starting to wonder whether the m-lmg is working or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPanda View Post
    It's going well actually. The strange thing is. I'm not experiencing any side effects. I'm starting to wonder whether the m-lmg is working or not.
    Is your libido high? If it is then it's probably working. Either that or if you are retaining water, but the GHenerate/Hdrol combo could really be helping you keep that water/bloat down.
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    Week 6 - Day 1 of H-drol...
    M-LMG - Day 21...

    Workout
    Foam Roll - T-Spine, Glutes, IT Band, Adductors, T-spine extensions...
    Rollovers into V-sits...
    Fire Hydrant circles...
    Mountain Climbers...
    Groiners...
    Hip flexor stretch...

    My legs felt pretty good after this...

    Deadlift
    Barx8
    95x5
    135x5
    175x3
    200x3
    225x3

    Instead of my usual 5 sets of SLDLs... I went for a glute attack...

    Glute Bridges
    bwx2x10

    Bird Dogs - Lying Abductor Raise - Clams (Superset)
    2x10

    Plate Drags (Abductors)
    10lbx2x10

    Planks
    2x30secs
    1x55secs
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Is your libido high? If it is then it's probably working. Either that or if you are retaining water, but the GHenerate/Hdrol combo could really be helping you keep that water/bloat down.
    That must be it. I heard that h-drol alone doesn't help the bloat as much, but I can see how the ghen would do that. Plus I was taking i-gh-1 too... I ran out last night. =(
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    What are you looking to get out of this cycle? If it is mass, we gotta get you a new workout bud. What does your split look like? This last workout was... abs, hamstrings and glutes? Are you doing a push/pull/upper/lower split? I'm a little confused.

    And just to light a fire under your ass... I mean, I understand we all lift different amounts of weight, but your workout is what a lot of us would call our warm up. Is 225 your max effort at 3 reps? Typically when on the sauce I'd suggest to go all out on the workouts... not hurt yourself, but this looks like an easily complete-able workout without the steroids... push yourself to lift more while on. I know you got 225x10. I'm pretty sure you have 275x5. For some reason I think I read you are recovering from an injury, but using steroids to recover from an injury might get you hurt worse, and honestly if you were going to use steroids to recover, non-aromatizing dry steroids like Hdrol are not the way to go. I know this is all too little/too late to change anything you are doing at the moment, I am just speaking for purely academic purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    What are you looking to get out of this cycle? If it is mass, we gotta get you a new workout bud. What does your split look like? This last workout was... abs, hamstrings and glutes? Are you doing a push/pull/upper/lower split? I'm a little confused.

    And just to light a fire under your ass... I mean, I understand we all lift different amounts of weight, but your workout is what a lot of us would call our warm up. Is 225 your max effort at 3 reps? Typically when on the sauce I'd suggest to go all out on the workouts... not hurt yourself, but this looks like an easily complete-able workout without the steroids... push yourself to lift more while on. I know you got 225x10. I'm pretty sure you have 275x5. For some reason I think I read you are recovering from an injury, but using steroids to recover from an injury might get you hurt worse, and honestly if you were going to use steroids to recover, non-aromatizing dry steroids like Hdrol are not the way to go. I know this is all too little/too late to change anything you are doing at the moment, I am just speaking for purely academic purposes.
    Hahaha... I know what you're talking about.

    First, I started this cycle for mass and strength. I did not expect my diet to suffer, but for personal reasons it is suffering just for 2 weeks. That's a big deal, I know, but I have no other choice.

    Second, I can most likely pull 275x10 at this point. However, at some point during this cycle, I realized some things about my body and my lifting. (Also, I got health insurance, which I never thought I would get)

    The point is, I had two conflicting concepts in my head colliding. On the one hand, I wanted to take advantage of the cycle and lift heavy and get big. I'm sure I could be doing 225x5x10 for SLDL instead of 175. On the other hand, I want to engage in corrective exercise and fix some of my issues. It's the typical "I don't want to stop lifting" thoughts colliding with "i gotta fix this now" thoughts. I was thinking of stopping the cycle all together, but I already bought everything. I cant do much with a used bottle of h-drol and m-lmg. I figured let me just use this to keep myself from wasting away. I'll go into PCT. Do the sports medicine doc. Get all fixed up and start over the right way. I've been going to a commercial gym with no guidance. So, while lifting, I've made some mistakes.

    I'm a little more aware of how I should've been lifting, but at this point I think its too late. I'm not sure though. I'll see what the Doc says.

    That's my story. LOL.
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    Just a few points to make here for you to ponder....

    lift heavy and get big
    - you can get bigger with moderate weights than heavy weights

    overdoing heavy weights while dealing with an injury can turn a minor/moderate problem into a long term/permanent one

    No matter what people say about safety of orals, they are an unknown. Nothing in your stack was used on humans more than 6 or 8 years ago... So what long term effects are are totally unknown. Wasting a cycle is potentially throwing away some amount of time off your lifespan for nothing....

    The flipside of that is, doing a cycle of testosterone is pretty safe, and well term established safety records, particularly if you get real human grade gear. So if you are going to do it again after you have dealt with the problems, ponder an injectible testosterone only cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Just a few points to make here for you to ponder....

    - you can get bigger with moderate weights than heavy weights

    overdoing heavy weights while dealing with an injury can turn a minor/moderate problem into a long term/permanent one

    No matter what people say about safety of orals, they are an unknown. Nothing in your stack was used on humans more than 6 or 8 years ago... So what long term effects are are totally unknown. Wasting a cycle is potentially throwing away some amount of time off your lifespan for nothing....

    The flipside of that is, doing a cycle of testosterone is pretty safe, and well term established safety records, particularly if you get real human grade gear. So if you are going to do it again after you have dealt with the problems, ponder an injectible testosterone only cycle.
    I definitely agree. Hence, my workouts look like theyre slowing down. I just want to keep gyming it. I should mention that originally this was a jim wendler 5/3/1 workout. Im more interested in a strength-powerlifting approach. Just not a 1rm...but 3-5rm.

    Also, im not sure how legit my source is for test...i know the oral turinabol is legit... at least i think it is...lol

    In any case, i hear what youre saying.
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    Well, looking at it, you'll have a bunch of time to find a source, as you likely won't be cycling again for at least 3-4 months
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Well, looking at it, you'll have a bunch of time to find a source, as you likely won't be cycling again for at least 3-4 months
    True. I do have a bottle of dieselbolan and epi-strong for whenever i pass rehab work.
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    I'm back with bad news.

    I finished my cycle. That went well, but after I did, I went to see a physical medicine MD. It turns out I have a lot more problems than I thought. I posted this in Exercise Science - The panda returns...
  

  
 

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