M1,4ADD backed up by MD :D
- 06-02-2004, 02:53 PM
- 06-02-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally Posted by LittleMonster
06-02-2004, 04:25 PM
I wouldn't touch M1T if you paid me. What good are the gains if you feel like a ****ing sloth all day.
For a potent androgen, Fina is my drug of choice.
06-02-2004, 07:19 PM
Same here on the M1T, I have learned to despise the stuff. The shutdown is insane and the sides are harsher than I care to deal with.
I have 10 grams m1,4 on the way, just received a gram of m-dien, and have 3 bottles of m4ohn on the way. I should have many, many productive cycles to come.
06-02-2004, 09:10 PM
Depending on how you dose the M1,4ADD, it may not last as long as you think. I'm going to make a 40mg/ml solution and dose it at 120/day to start. At that rate 50ml will only last about 12 days.Originally Posted by max silver
Good thing Sldge dropped the price.
06-02-2004, 09:13 PM
I'm thinking more along the lines of 100mg/day myself to assess tolerance, as I haven't used m1,4 yet. But even at that dosage, it's still enough for 100 days, which is pretty decent imo.
06-03-2004, 02:33 AM
06-03-2004, 02:35 AM
Nothing major to report...added 5lbs. to barbell curls(@100 now).Dips went pretty good also,so I might add next week.
One more week and I'm done .So far up 4lbs. + lost some bf
06-03-2004, 12:35 PM
LO's Cutter 2 week update
Well, 2 weeks in and not much has changed over the last couple days. Weight is the same.Mabey a tad leaner. I got a few days left with the clen. I'm looking forward to dropping it. My workouts are suffering.Even with supplementing Taurine my ass is cramping up and I'm sore all the time. Generally, I feel like I'm 80yrs old most of the time. I can't wait to start the M1,4ADD. I think dropping the clen and starting that will do me some good. I havn't decided if I will end the cut then, but I,m leaning towards keeping it going without the stimulants. I'll make up the difrence with cardio. I'll probably feel much better doing it that way.
06-03-2004, 12:37 PM
I want to see what MD will do for u next week...seems to kick in 3rd week.Or it might be 20mg ,that kicked in for me
06-03-2004, 07:00 PM
I'd have to agree on the clen assessment, I bought a custom made liquid bottle from one of the board members awhile ago, and have determined that it's just not an effective product for myself, whether for cutting, or pct purposes. I suffer from granny workouts where I feel like I'm better off sticking to those sissy plastic dumbbells, feel tired most of the time, get the shakes/jitters, and lose strength at alarming rates. Plus my heart just pounds away, and I'm generally cranky to boot. Why people like this stuff is beyond me, give me an ec stack any day of the week instead.
And wow, 20mg is quite the dose of m-dien! That makes you wonder what the testers who got results at 3mg/day were actually taking, or if there were errors in measuring their doses, or what the hell was going on.
06-03-2004, 07:14 PM
[QUOTE=max silver]I'd have to agree on the clen assessment, I bought a custom made liquid bottle from one of the board members awhile ago, and have determined that it's just not an effective product for myself, whether for cutting, or pct purposes. feel tired most of the time, QUOTE]
ok, i'm not the only one that dislike clen. I had to stop after a week cuz it just made me feel tired all the time and my head "cloudy." the shakes weren't that bad for me tho and it didn't really affect my workout, but i definitely take an eca over clen. no visible fat loss either from the other 2-2 week cycles of clen. what gives?
06-03-2004, 08:05 PM
Yeah, I think I'm coming to the same conclusion. However, I really liked what it did for me when I used it for PCT. My last cycle was the first time I used it for that purpose and I kept nearly all my gains. I think I'll continue to use it for that purpose.Originally Posted by max silver
I think what happened this time is that the combination of reduced calories, a non estrogenic compound, and the use of clen all played a role in how crappy I've been feeling.
Granny workouts... LOL That's funny. That's about how my workouts have been.
06-04-2004, 08:28 AM
LO's Cutter update
Alright somethings up here. I'm up another pound in spite of eating very clean yesterday and resisting carb cravings. I honestly did not expect this. I knew something was up last night. because I felt and looked a little fuller.
That makes for a 2 pound gain on reduced calories since going up to 20mg. while continuing to lose fat.
I doubted it, but mabey there is something to the 3 week mark with this stuff.
06-04-2004, 10:55 AM
My weight is up and down again: gained 4lbs. and lost 2lbs. this week...WTF
Up 2lbs. total for my almost 8wks. cycle so far.I'm little bit leaner and harder.No sides what so ever.Actually just got a bump on my neck ,but I don't see how that is related to my cycle unless I popped a vein or something.Its just a little bump.
Strengh is really not that much up-m14add gave me much better strengh gains.
06-07-2004, 11:04 AM
Has been 8wks, to tal for this cycle...up 4lbs. and lost some bf(not much).I weigh about 180lbs. this morning.I think I'm going to stop it right here,cause last 3wks. really didn't do much for me. My strengh went up much higher w/M14ADD vs. MD.
So I loved M14ADD and MD was just ok.Will do another MD cycle,cause I still have couple of bottles left.I might stack it w/something.
Ready to start taking Nolva.40-2wks. + 20-2wks. This is my first lime doing pct w/nolva.When is the best time to take it?
I might post week later w/some pct results if you guys want me to.
06-07-2004, 11:39 AM
You can take it all in the morning with breakfast. Drink a lot of water when you start it. My first time using nolva sucked. I got pretty dehydrated. Felt like **** on it. I do much better with clomid.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
06-07-2004, 11:53 AM
06-08-2004, 04:25 PM
i think u need 30+30 for the first 2 weeks bro. that was a long ass cycle and you need to dose heavy, anyways, have you read that thread on nolva, i cant find the link right now but according to others your not getting a full 20 mg of tamaxofen w/ each dose b/c your getting a portion of the citrate (weight) too, i'm doing all 60mg in one dose and its helping me recover quite quickly. i plan on dropping down to 30mg after 2 weeks and continue for another 2 weeks.
i found it....
Tamoxifen Citrate- should we be taking more?
06-09-2004, 02:17 AM
07-02-2004, 04:34 PM
Almost 4wks in pct
Everything went ok and I'm up total of 1lb. after running this cycle.I kept almost all of my strengh gains.I'd say 90%.
I do look little leaner,but thats about it.
The cycle was ok.I liked m14add,but md was far from what i expected.
My next cycle will be TestE/EQ/Dbol ...enough of this nonsense
07-02-2004, 04:39 PM
07-02-2004, 08:27 PM
Unfortunately, not as good as it could have been. I'm nice and lean, lost about 2" on my waist, but I lost more weight than I wanted to due to a lack of apetite and will to train. I'm going through some heavy personal problems right now. That's all I want to say about it for now.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
07-02-2004, 09:54 PM
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