M1,4ADD backed up by MD :D
- 05-22-2004, 06:00 PM
Kinda emphasizes the whole "take it easy" concept when on androgens. Just because you can lift 50 more pounds after a few weeks äoesn't necessarily mean`you should. I'm not saying don't go for consistent gains in weight but`take it all at a steady pace over the weeks so your tendons, joints and stabilizers can catch up. Muscles can easily outpace everything else in growth and strength when on cycle.
Baby steps, baby steps, lol." It's a lifelong pursuit only as long as you have a body capable of lifting.
Go stretch out and heal up ya methyl maniac
- 05-22-2004, 08:53 PM
05-22-2004, 11:18 PM
Yep, thats why I always limit my increases to 4% max every other workout, in other words never increase your max weights two workouts in a row. And don't forget the flax oil, like butta' for those joints.Originally Posted by bioman
05-23-2004, 12:02 AM
I do take Total EFA when I don't forget.Never heard of adding weights just every other w/o.Anyone else has anything to add to this one?
05-23-2004, 07:56 AM
Lean One's cutter
Well, It's been about 4 days now and I'm down 2 lbs. Mostly water I'm sure because I have reduced carbs some. Things are looking good though. My skin is starting to tighten up and my arms are looking more cut and vascular. I decided to start dosing at 10mg/day since day one, because that seems to be the trend amoung MD users lately.I also decided to throw some EC into the mix the first week while I ramp up the T3 dose. Overall everything is going well. My only complaint is that I have been having some middle to lower back discomfort. I don't know if I would call it cramping, but there is a definite pump down there and my back just feels tired and achy. I have some taurine on hand so I 'm going to start loading up on that.Hopefully it will help.
05-23-2004, 11:37 AM
05-23-2004, 12:36 PM
this was my first w/o since i f'ed up my back.i took it pretty easy and did just on exercise per body part.added 10lbs. to my dips.
now it's b/w + 45lbs.
i'm not sure is it MD,but my libido was much better on m14add
05-23-2004, 05:34 PM
Well, mine's been ok, but it's still early. MD is related to tren/nandrolone so I would not be suprised if it kills libido. I got some long jack powder I'm gonna try if I need it.Hopefully it will do the trick.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
05-24-2004, 02:26 AM
05-24-2004, 06:53 PM
Yeah, Long Jack, Longifolia, Tongkat ali, Eurucoiyasomething (sp?) . All the same stuff.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
BTW, no drop in libido yet. Down 3.5lbs and lookin' good. And the Taurine is killin' the back cramps. God bless that amazing little amino acid!
05-25-2004, 02:38 AM
souds like it's going well,man...I see no sides yet.I'm not sure about my weight since my scale has low battery.
Chiro said no squats or deadlifting for 2wks al least.I have a pinched nerve or two.Then I'll follow up on it w/phisical therapy for couple of months so it won't happen again .I'll have about 9 chiro sessions in next 13days,so schedule will be tight,but don't give up me yet.
Feel like a million $$$ today . Strengh was up on BP,but really didn't want to push my luck w/adding weights again
05-25-2004, 03:10 PM
Strengh is up again,but had to cut down on some stuff.Did leg ext. instead of squats.
Libido seems to be back to normal.I do think it's because MD wasn't kicking in yet when I stopped taking m14add.
Back is not so bad anymore,but I feel that something is wrong when I try to work it.
I'm on 10mg and no sides.Weght this morning was 181lbs.(up 5lbs still),but I do look like I lost some water from m14add,so it's posible that I'm gaining some lean muscle.I look more cut in my abs.
05-26-2004, 12:39 PM
LO's Cutter 1 week update
Well, 1 week in and I'm down 5lbs. Most of it is water loss from cutting carbs, but I know I lost at least a pound or 2 of fat because everything is more cut. However, I'm a little suprised to be down this much. This is only day two of clen, and the T3 is up to 100mcg. I think I'm going to add in more carbs and try to stabilize my weight. Things are looking good though. In spite of the quick drop in weight, I still look pretty full. My only complaints so far, is that my joints are a little achy and I have lost some strength. It will be intresting to see what the next week brings.
05-26-2004, 12:44 PM
I lost 3lbs. since yesterday morning...WTF .I'm sure it's water from m14add,but common...4lbs. down sice I started MD!Now I have just 2lbs. left
05-27-2004, 06:02 PM
Back up a pound today. Also, my waist is down an inch to 30.5. Im hoping to get down to 28. Going up to 15mg today too. So far so good.
05-28-2004, 02:49 AM
05-28-2004, 08:25 AM
That's where I'm headed, if every thing is going well after a couple days.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
05-28-2004, 10:44 AM
I lost some more weight,now im just 1lb from where I started w/m14add .I think MD is great for cutting,not bulking thats for sure.I did loose some bf,cause my pants are getting big on me around my waist.
05-28-2004, 11:52 AM
Hey, It's not all that bad. If you lost some fat and are still up a pound,I call that progress. Don't be so hard on yourself. We all have sucky cycles at one time or another. Learn from it.Originally Posted by LittleMonster
05-28-2004, 07:06 PM
I'm watching this closey fellas. The MD sounds good for cutting, and thats what I'm doing right now. I'm considering running it for 6 weeks at 10 mgs.
05-28-2004, 07:36 PM
05-28-2004, 08:16 PM
wasn't MD being touted as a bulker? now, it's a cutter? why, is it because it didn't live up to expectations?Originally Posted by LittleMonster
05-28-2004, 11:35 PM
thats the way it works for me.I think a lot of peolple have been saying that thoughOriginally Posted by lancelot
05-29-2004, 07:11 AM
Can't answer that. But I can tell you that since increasing to 12mg and 15mg, my weight has stabelized even while I'm still pyraniding up the clen. I have never been this lean and kept this much muscle. Especially with the amount of calories I'm consuming. And the kicker is that I have only been doing cardio once a day! That's all gonna change this week.Originally Posted by lancelot
05-30-2004, 03:04 PM
2 wks. in
I said f*ck it and started 20mg yesterday.If that doesn't work,I'm not sure it does at all.
Has been 2wks on MD and 7wks total for my cycle.I do look leaner,but it could be just water that I lost after m14add.Right now I'm @175.So I lost 1lb. overall...
I might give it 2more weeks or 1 if I won't see any results.
06-01-2004, 01:54 AM
W/o was pretty good,little bit more strengh vs. last week.
I feel great on 20mg,all I think about is eating.I'm not sure does dose have anything to do w/this,but do feel hungrier
I'm up 3lbs! Thats nice for a change.Lets see what tomorrow brings to my chest workout.I'm hopping to add more weight.
No sides to report.Other that liver failure
06-01-2004, 01:54 PM
Todays w/o went good.I added some weights to Inl.BP and my flys.So strengh is going up.I think I'll run it for 2 more weeks and thats it.What will make this a 9wk. methyl cycle.
Taking a long brake after this
06-01-2004, 07:17 PM
LO's Cutter update
Well, not to be outdone by Little Monster, I decided to up the dose to 20mg/day. Everything is going well. My weight is still holding at 154, and I seem to get a wee bit leaner as the days go by. I have decided to commit to doing 2 hrs of cardio/day til the cut is over.I forgot how much I hate cutting. I don't know if I can put up with this for much more than a week. I'm waiting for my PEG400 to get here so I can brew up a 40mg/ml solution of M1,4ADD. Then the real fun begins. HEHEHE...
06-02-2004, 02:28 AM
06-02-2004, 07:40 AM
Well, I'll start at 120/day and see how that goes.
UPDATE: After 1 day at 20mg I am up 1.5lbs. This is after doing 2 hrs of cardio and eating very clean w/ reduced carbs. Could the extra 5mg have done that? I doubt it,but it kinda makes you go hmmm...
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