- 02-27-2004, 07:31 AM
Originally Posted by NO MERCY
- 02-27-2004, 10:14 AM
Awesome gains NM. I am not seeing the huge strength increases yet, but I'm only on my first week. Can't wait for weeks 3-4. I am a bit smaller than you so I will be sticking to 30mg a day.
- 02-27-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Beelzebub
Correct, I am currently at 50mgs and most likely stay at this dose
My diet has not changed much other than the fact I am taking in about 500 calories or so more a day.
02-27-2004, 01:22 PM
02-27-2004, 01:22 PM
Ya it took a good 3 weeks for me to really see the great strength increases. Best of luck man. I am keeping an eye on your log.Originally Posted by ke0ki
02-27-2004, 09:56 PM
03-01-2004, 08:44 PM
Finally got to take a look at your log. Yea, I thought your strength would explode during third week, as did mine. Looks good and represents most of what I experienced.Originally Posted by NO MERCY
Colbicide (over at BB.com - Nolva/6oxo experiment)
03-02-2004, 09:25 AM
NM, do you plan on doing 6oxo in conjunction with Nolva for pct? I have an extra bottle and was considering doing this to speed up recovery time.
03-02-2004, 10:31 AM
Bing, If you don't mind, How long did you run it? At what dose?Was it solo?,and what were your gains?Originally Posted by Bing Crosby
03-02-2004, 11:22 AM
03-02-2004, 11:24 AM
I am trying to decide on using both nolva and 6oxo at the same time or nolva followed by 6oxo. I am reviewing information provided by many members on this board and Seth and Patrick over at bb.com.Originally Posted by ke0ki
03-02-2004, 11:26 AM
03-02-2004, 11:26 AM
Start of Week 4 - Day 22
Yesterday I weighed in at 271. Up 5 pounds from the start. I wish I was putting on more weight as I have been eating a great deal and training hard. However, I find it very difficult to put on weight at my size even with the use of legal compounds. If I am able to put on 5 more pounds in the next 2 weeks I would be satisfied.
Strength is excellent right now.
Bench - up to 265 for 4 from 235 for 3. I felt good so I went for 410 for one and got it
Wide grip pull downs - up to 270 for 3 from 260 for 3.
Pumps in the gym were great. Especially in the biceps
03-02-2004, 08:47 PM
I don't really want to tread on Mercy's thread here but since the man asked I'll do.Originally Posted by Lean One
I ran m1t for two weeks at 10 mg. followed right away with m1,4add at 30 mgs for four weeks. Overall gains were about 20 lbs., most which came with the m1t.
But here's the thing - yea m1t is great but the sides (I've ran it at 10, 20 and 30 - 30 being the best) overall I don't like them sides during the second week. The m1,4add is so mild you don't really have sides, maybe a bit of acne and the libido increase didn't bother my wife at all.
It took until the middle of the third week to kick in. Strength went up trendously and the pumps... Oh how I'm only into PCT five days and I miss them. I'm looking forward to my next experiment...
As for the nolva/6-oxo experiment - I have run them concurrently but didn't really keep track of what I was experiencing. I've got another hijacked log from Mercy over at BB.com that I'll try to keep updated every three days which looks like this:
Week 1-2 40 mg. Nolva split am/pm, 1fast's Pro Liver 6 caps (2, 3x's/day)
Week 3 20 mg. Nolva am, 1fast's Pro Liver 6 caps (2, 3x's/day)
Week 4 20 mg. Nolva w/ 600 mg. 6oxo split am/pm, 1fast's Pro Liver 6 caps (2, 3x's/day)
Week 5-6 400 mg. 6oxo split am/pm
Week 7 300 mg. pm
The thread I'm talking about has been one of the best over there in a long time. PA and Seth plus many other have donated some good words of wisdom/experience which have gone into the above PCT idea.
Mercy - thanks again for letting me piggy back off your thread.
03-02-2004, 09:35 PM
Originally Posted by Bing Crosby
It's all good man. I appreciate the feedback. Again great gains man. Keep us posted on how much you keep post cycle.
And oh the increase of libido on m1,4add is crazy. I agree with you. My wife does not mind it either.
03-02-2004, 09:35 PM
Good workout. Squat is still at 385 for 3.
Weight again is the same. I have decided to increase the dose to 60mgs starting tomorrow. I hope to be able to put on a few more pounds before the cycle is complete.
Tomorrow is rest day.
03-02-2004, 09:39 PM
I'm hoping to keep most of it. I'll way in on Saturday to see.Originally Posted by NO MERCY
Good luck with the rest of your cycle and keep us up to date on which route you take PCT.
03-02-2004, 09:41 PM
03-02-2004, 09:41 PM
03-02-2004, 10:05 PM
Yeah, I'll be intrested to hear how that goes as far as sides.Originally Posted by Bing Crosby
And Bing, Thanks for the info. every little bit helps.
03-02-2004, 10:32 PM
So far not many noticable sides from 50mgs. I am hoping things will remain the same at 60mgs. I am increasing the dose because I believe I should be able to put on more than 5 pounds in over 4 weeks. The strength is there now I want some LBM increases. In addition, I am contemplating adding an additional 500 cals or so to my diet.Originally Posted by Lean One
03-03-2004, 03:20 PM
2 questions.Originally Posted by NO MERCY
1 Are you at maintenance calories or above?
2 Do you look like you have leaned out at all?
03-03-2004, 04:47 PM
I got a bloody nose today at work. I will have to closely monitor my blood pressure. I am not to concerned as in the past a bloody nose or two has occurred when using PH's or 1test.
03-03-2004, 04:53 PM
03-03-2004, 09:26 PM
Sweet. Thanks for the info. I have been going back and forth with lowering my cals, but you and a couple others also noticed a leaning out in themselves so I will keep everything just the way it is.Originally Posted by NO MERCY
I think there is more to this compound than meets the eye.Most are comparing it to D-BOL but I do not think this is the whole truth. If I could be so bold, I would say that with propper dosing, it has all the good qualities of D-BOL with less of the bad.
03-03-2004, 09:28 PM
03-03-2004, 10:14 PM
Having just finished 30mgs./day for four weeks alone, I'm waiting to see what it is like stacked. I'm curious as to the benefits it may have with m1t. But that little adventure will occur in June.
03-03-2004, 10:16 PM
03-03-2004, 10:19 PM
I'm thinkin' M14ADD/M-Dien. (evil laugh impression)whoooohahahahahaOriginally Posted by Bing Crosby
03-03-2004, 10:20 PM
I would prefer to do the same but I have a bottle of the old MesoLabs 10mgs. lying around and figured it would go well with the m1,4add. Possibly to counter the sides. We'll see...Originally Posted by sifu
03-03-2004, 10:22 PM
That was my first thought. But I need to take care of business and kill that m1t before moving on to the m-dien. Oh the sacrifices I make...Originally Posted by Lean One
03-04-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally Posted by Lean One
I agree. I do not notice any bloating with this compound. I speculate that I am holding most of the water in the muscle cells and not under the skin.
03-04-2004, 10:31 PM
Weighed in at 275. That is an increase of 9 pounds since the start of the cycle.
I benched 375 for 3 today. That is an increase of 40 pounds
I did wide grip pull downs and was able to get 270 for 4. That is an increase of 10 pounds and a rep.
03-04-2004, 10:32 PM
03-04-2004, 10:42 PM
Wow man you picked up like four pounds in three days? 60mg must be treating you nice. Asside from the nosebleed. Take care of yourself. Hawthorn berry mabey?Originally Posted by NO MERCY
03-05-2004, 12:12 PM
I have to get it checked by the doctor. Unfort. my arm does not fit in the machine at my supermarket.Originally Posted by NPursuit
03-05-2004, 12:13 PM
03-05-2004, 12:14 PM
Yes I was surprised myself. I couldn't believe it. I stepped on the scale twice just to make sureOriginally Posted by Lean One
I stopped at the local CVS for some hawth berry and they did not have it. I am going to try another local Pharmacy.
03-05-2004, 12:15 PM
03-05-2004, 12:21 PM
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