Beginner looking for advice

[dujanw21]

I am an athlete who has been seriously training for about 7 years now. I recently had surgery from tearing my lateral oblique. I have been wanting to take roids and need help on my cycle. I was 205 and in good shape before the surgery now I am 193 and chubby. I am looking to increase my strength, speed, gain about 10-15 lbs of muscle, and be pretty cut. I want to have anavar in my cycle. I think I am just going to drive to mexico and get my roids. So keeping that in mind and all the fakes out there, what do you recommend for an 8 week cycle and post cycle therapy?

 

[ZoomZoom88]

Have you ever done any PH/DS or any hormonal product before?

 

[GeekPoop]

Have you ever done any PH/DS or any hormonal product before?

ya

might wanna crawl before you can walk just my .02

 

[FootballFanat]

yes

 

[ecosocialist]

Just wait. You said you just recently had surgery on your lateral oblique, so any heavy lifting will obviously affect that. So save your money and save your gains till that is more healed up, since heavy lifting will be in part stabilized by your oblique.

Also, keep in mind that a well planned prohormone stack can very closely mimic the effects of real steroids when combined with nutrition/sleep/supplements and PCT.

 

[dujanw21]

what are the ingredients in pro hormones? I take tongkat ali. I eat very well. All organic super clean. Explain pro hormones and PCT in the place of gear. Also theoretically, the use of steroids between the ages of 21 and 22 can increase your height as well as over all number of muscle cells.

 

[ecosocialist]

It would not increase your height. In fact, go a few years below that, and it would stop all height growth by sealing growth plates through hormonal signal.

 

[dujanw21]

Actually how steroids stunt growth is they cause your body to grow rapidly. Your bones grow so fast that your body seals the growth plates prematurely. If your plates have been sealed by steroids your body then starts growing in other areas due to the large number of receptor sites when one is young.
Bones on average grow till they are around 22 but under the correct (genetic and environmental) situations can grow till the age of 30. So theoretically taking certain steroids between the age of 20 and 22 can increase ones height by causing bones to grow just before your plates are sealed naturally. Maybe not a huge increase, but still an increase. Anavar has been documented to increase height in shorter children. Not as effective as HGH but there are clinical studies that prove this.
Plus I just got off surgery, taking a light steroid like anavar will help my recovery. I do not plan to start going back to benching and squating 315 right off the bat. I plan to train functionally until i feel strong again. Then get my strength and mass back.

 

[workingman16]

Don't do the roids... its not worth it.


I know that you want to get back into game shape but as a recently retired athlete I've seen it can be more harmful than beneficial.

 

[dujanw21]

why do you say that? what did you do? and what happened?

 

[suncloud]

tendon strength doesn't gain as fast as muscle strength. after a surgery, its really important to get tendon strength up before starting a cycle. at least, that's what i would do.

 

[dujanw21]

i agree. I am gonna take it slow. But It took me close to a year to get to 210lbs pretty lean and benching 315 5 times and squatting 315 5 times. I am now 195 outa shape and not very strong. So i plan on being smart working my ass off and when i start to feel strong again get a cycle before the season to get me back to were i was or a little better. My thought on steroids is it is not very smart to take them when you are at your weakest and smart to take them when you are close to your strongest. So i will get strong again and then go on a cycle to get back to peak performance. what did you take? tell me your experience ?

 

[suncloud]

i've never messed with anything illegal, so all i can tell you is my few cycles i've been at or close to the top of my game. my old workout partner had rotator cuff surgery and jumped into a cycle with really disastrous results, so again, i'd exercise caution, and that realistically boils down to a lackluster/substandard cycle, so going natural for a few months just makes more sense.