My sides are pretty much non existent now Hulkster. Im jealous of Hogiejoe though, he seems to be gaining more rapidly than me, and on a lower dose, I stepped on the scale yesterday and I was the same.
Based on some of the earlier feedback, in another thread Bobo (or possibly Chemo) proposed that the effects of M 1-T were not strongly dose dependent beyond a threshold dosage (my paraphrase). Just taking more does not necessarily imply that you will gain more or faster.Originally Posted by LIFTER23
Well, I guess I spoke too soon, Im up another 2 lbs tonight, 8lbs total. Got 3 more doses to take, wanna reach the 10lb mark.Originally Posted by Cogar
ha, way to go lifter but you not gonna gain more than me, ill be busting my ass. so do you think you are gonna stop your cycle even though you are still gaining, imo you should keep goin as long as you got some good pct. no matter what you do though congrats on your gains.
Yeah, congrats to you too. Yeah, its still up in the air, I dont see why you couldnt continue if you are still progressing and you have your PCT in order.
THe only thing Ive read is that its easier to manage your gains from a 2 weeker because you aren't going to be shutdown as hard, but Ive seen that debated, I dont know yet . What about you?
well i think i am gonna keep on going to 3 weeks at the most. i dont think any longer than that though. as of today i am still gaining so. but i 3 weeks looks like a good cut off point and then some clomid for pct to get the boys working again.
what do you got for pct?
Liquid nolva, got it from this sites sponsor, PowerNutrition.
Yes, it is hard to tell if you take measurements too often. It often takes a full week to confirm your gains because your body fluctuates a little each day.Originally Posted by LIFTER23
Nolva should be good, trib and nolva is what im gonna take, I have femara too but im saving that for throughout my cycle of test and dbol
I'm glad to hear of all your gains. I received my M1T testerday and I'm in my second day of the cycle. I'm taking 10g ed a day, my first way in was at 176 but that was mid day this morning it was 173. So I'll say thats my bottom weight. I can already feel the tightness hogiejoe is talking about, just like the pump is lasting longer, all day. Plus the M1T seems to make me hyper/jittery do you all get that feeling as well? I ain't got much time right now, but I just want to say I hope my cycle goes as well as both of yours have so far.
sweet hulkster, good luck with the cycle. my first day i was like that too, i think i was justreally excited about having my m1t. youll probably slow down here pretty soon.
well day 13 is in the books and i think i am gonna stop my cycle today. tomorrow is a day off so i am just gonna stop today and start the clomid tomorrow. i gained 8 pounds total and gained lots of strength. ill post later to let everyone know how the pct went.
One comment (feel free to disregard): Since your muscles grow on the days off, not workout days, you might want to run your cycle one more day to recover and grow from today's workout.Originally Posted by hogiejoe
that is definetely some good reasoning but i think i am ready to get my nuts working again. i have never taken a compound this potent and i have noticed a loss in libiddo the past 2 days or so and it kinda freaks me out. i figure i am gonna hurry up and start the pct and get the boys pumpin to avoid as hard of a shutdown, i think i will end up with the same gains when all is said and done if not more. let me know if this wrong.
Cogar is right.....your test production was shut down a long time ago buddy....that extra day of dosing on the off day helps to recover since you don't want to be trying to recover while the hormones are all out of your system.
Bump for an update Hogie.....
ok, so i went ahead with cogar's advice and continued my cycle on my days off. so the last 2 days of my cycle were my off days and i also started my pct of clomid. i thought it might be a good idea to overlap the pct so my boys would be pumping right when i stop my cycle. i will be back tonight with my final weight and final thoughts of my cycle.
my cycle lasted a total of 15 days on 5 mg ed of m1t. i weighed in today at 180 pounds bringing my gains to a grand total of 9 pounds and i am still very lean. you can still see striations in my shouders and a well defined 6 pack so i believe very little of it is water weight. my strength also skyrocketed at every single lift.
precycle post cycle
bench 240 x 5 bench 255 x 5 last set
squats 225 x 10 squats 245 x 10 last set
also my side effects were minimul except for a nagging headache i had from about day 3 to day 12. my libido also became non existant at about day 13 which is one of the reasons i decdided to stop my cycle(i will do another 15 day cycle in about 3 weeks). i have done some 1 ad and 4 diol before but never experienced this side that is why i was freaked out a little. i knew it would happen but damn i am still young and one of the main reasons i started working out was to get more *****. so all in all i had a great cycle, never missed a workout, ate like a champ and gained 9 pounds. i also have a friend that did this with me and drank and ate like **** despite my warnings and he looks like a teenage girl holding water on her period. although he only drank a few times, that is his work ethic in a nutshell, so dont expect this to be magic beans it is only a supplement. peace and ill try to post pics once i get my friends dig camera.
Congrats on a nice little run.....What brand were you taking?
amt from pnOriginally Posted by dam225