[KgTomCat]

After headaches and blatant stupidity, this is going to be my log of H-drol by CEL. Its a long, miserable and repetitive journey to where I am right now...but the cycle is going to look like this

2 weeks pre-loaded Hawhorne Berry
H-50 at 75/100/100/100/100
Cycle Support

PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10
6-OXO: 300/300/200/100; tapered in the 3rd week of PCT
Controlled Labs' Blue Up
Milk Thistle: As per instructions
Creatine Mono

Support Supps:
-Fish Oil (1 g in a.m., mid-day, p.m.)
-Hawthorne Berry (1 a.m. & 1 p.m., also in Cycle Support)
-Saw Palmetto (1 before bed, also in Cycle Support)
-N.O. Explode-pre-workout
-Multi-Vit (1 in a.m.)
-Glutamine-5g post WO
--Im taking all depending on recommended instructions on bottle

daily caloric intake will be around 4000, protein 250g, carbs 300-400g

Lifting 5 days a week, light cardio 1 day a week-20 min on rest day

[Nightwanderer]

what's the reasoning behind holding off on the milk thistle until pct? EDIT: nvm, probably because there's enough in cycle support.

[delsolrob]

Originally Posted by KgTomCat

PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10
6-OXO: 300/300/200/100; tapered in the 3rd week of PCT
Controlled Labs' Blue Up
Milk Thistle: As per instructions
Creatine Mono

you want to run your AI inversely to your serm...

nolva 20/20/10/10
6oxo 0/ 0/ 100/100/200/300/300

I also like to ramp my AI down (don't want rebound), so I'd then ramp the serm down from 300

EDIT: The above line should be:
I also like to ramp my AI down (don't want rebound), so I'd then ramp the 6-OXO down from 300

[somewhatgifted]

High dosages, long cycle.. good luck mate!

[GMG760]

I can't believe you named your thread this.

[KgTomCat]

Originally Posted by delsolrob

you want to run your AI inversely to your serm...

nolva 20/20/10/10
6oxo 0/ 0/ 100/100/200/300/300

I also like to ramp my AI down (don't want rebound), so I'd then ramp the serm down from 300

6-OXO: 300/300/200/100; tapered in the 3rd week of PCT

[KgTomCat]

Originally Posted by GMG760

I can't believe you named your thread this.

T-Lake gave me the idea...a good man!

[delsolrob]

Originally Posted by KgTomCat

6-OXO: 300/300/200/100; tapered in the 3rd week of PCT

you're displaying it as being ramped down...300/300/200/100!

this would be:
week 3: 300
week 4: 300
Week 5: 200
Week 6: 100

....that's not what you want!

what you should do: (IMO)
week 3: 100
week 4: 100
Week 5: 200
Week 6: 300

[DMAC10]

Wish you the best of luck on your cycle.
Push hard and eat clean.

[KgTomCat]

Originally Posted by delsolrob

you're displaying it as being ramped down...300/300/200/100!

this would be:
week 3: 300
week 4: 300
Week 5: 200
Week 6: 100

....that's not what you want!

what you should do: (IMO)
week 3: 100
week 4: 100
Week 5: 200
Week 6: 300

T-God said to lower it..?

[GMG760]

Oh jesus delsolrob, what have you done?! here comes the next month of 6oxo dosing questions from hell.

[delsolrob]

good point!

TC, as long as you have all your supplies on hand then start researching on your own on what's going to be best....that means reading, not asking someone!

honestly man, go get a notebook or something and start taking notes...if you can't retain a lot of the info that you read then you should probably start organizing it somewhere for reference. (think of it like taking notes for school...difference being there's no grade, if you pass the test in the end then you get to keep your nuts and you won't grow tits)

after reading about this stuff for so long it should all start to make sense and you shouldn't have to have everyone tell you what to do...this should be more like a discussion rather than QA.

[crazyfool405]

you may want 6bromo in there with the 6 oxo, 6 oxo does nothing to estradiol which can negativly impact your recovery

50-100mg with the 6oxo will work