Building the best Natty Test Booster

  1. Building the best Natty Test Booster


    Alright so my plan is to develop a cost effective natty test booster and with the help of CC and all of you on am.com I am confident we can do this. The combos that I have been playing around with will net 150 servings of 2 pills; ideally I am thinking about enough for a full 75 day run at the end of the summer.

    Here is what I have so far but I was told to drop the Trib because it will not free up test.

    Coleus Forskohlii (20% forskolin) 100 MG N/A
    Horny Goat Weed Extract (10% Icariin) 500 MG N/A
    Tribulus terrestris (45% Saponins) 675 MG N/A
    Longjack 100:1 (Tongkat Ali) 40 MG N/A

    Any suggestions would be awesome and know that I want to keep it to a 2 pill dose unless there is really good reason to go to three (assuming that they would be taken 2-3 times a day with 6 total pills). Also, I would like to keep the cost under $100... so any and all suggestions are welcome. Still a noob here and hopefully if we come up with something really good maybe it can become a recommended configuration on CC.


  2. So no one has any ideas???? I thought this would be something cool to design and once it is done and a formula is agreed upon, I will log it and see how it works.

  3. 6-OXO (4-etioallocholen - 3,6, 17-trione)..........300mg
    Quercetin...600mg
    Resveratrol 50%...........1,200mg
    Piperine(black pepper extract)............20mg
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  4. Maxximal - Care to elaborate on why these choices? I see two anti-oxidants, the piperine I understand but isn't 6-OXO a PH?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Maxximal - Care to elaborate on why these choices? I see two anti-oxidants, the piperine I understand but isn't 6-OXO a PH?
    It's an AI.

    My choice would be:

    400mg Divanill
    200mg Icariin (50%)
    10mg 6-bromo
    5mg Naringin
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  6. I would use 25mg 6-bromo,
    200mg divanill
    120mg forskolhi
    250mg icariin
    10mg zinc
    1mg copper
    reservatrol 400mg

    I would take this 3 times a day.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It's an AI.

    My choice would be:

    400mg Divanill
    200mg Icariin (50%)
    10mg 6-bromo
    5mg Naringin
    6-bromo low your test levels so i chose 6-oxo.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    I would use 25mg 6-bromo,
    200mg divanill
    120mg forskolhi
    250mg icariin
    10mg zinc
    1mg copper
    reservatrol 400mg

    I would take this 3 times a day.
    GREAT!!!!!!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    6-bromo low your test levels so i chose 6-oxo.
    Studies/evidence to back that up, please...
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  10. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Alright so my plan is to develop a cost effective natty test booster and with the help of CC and all of you on am.com I am confident we can do this. The combos that I have been playing around with will net 150 servings of 2 pills; ideally I am thinking about enough for a full 75 day run at the end of the summer.

    Here is what I have so far but I was told to drop the Trib because it will not free up test.

    Coleus Forskohlii (20% forskolin) 100 MG N/A
    Horny Goat Weed Extract (10% Icariin) 500 MG N/A
    Tribulus terrestris (45% Saponins) 675 MG N/A
    Longjack 100:1 (Tongkat Ali) 40 MG N/A

    Any suggestions would be awesome and know that I want to keep it to a 2 pill dose unless there is really good reason to go to three (assuming that they would be taken 2-3 times a day with 6 total pills). Also, I would like to keep the cost under $100... so any and all suggestions are welcome. Still a noob here and hopefully if we come up with something really good maybe it can become a recommended configuration on CC.
    What are you adding to helping with digestion/absorption?
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It's an AI.

    My choice would be:

    400mg Divanill
    200mg Icariin (50%)
    10mg 6-bromo
    5mg Naringin
    I would probably, if cost would be beneficial, try and find a higher extract of Icariin. I noticed a few people talking about 90%, but have yet to see it "offline"
    I had this same, or close, in mind about 2 months ago...dunno, I may just splurge for it and get it bagged up.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    I would use 25mg 6-bromo,
    200mg divanill
    120mg forskolhi
    250mg icariin
    10mg zinc
    1mg copper
    reservatrol 400mg

    I would take this 3 times a day.
    Why not double the divanill, diminishing returns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    6-bromo low your test levels so i chose 6-oxo.
    6 bromo is an AI, it lowers estrogen levels.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    What are you adding to helping with digestion/absorption?
    Had not thought about that yet? Still learning so anyone who has suggestions by all means chime in with them.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    I would use 25mg 6-bromo,
    200mg divanill
    120mg forskolhi
    250mg icariin
    10mg zinc
    1mg copper
    reservatrol 400mg

    I would take this 3 times a day.
    That looks real good russian, I might do something like this soon!!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It's an AI.

    My choice would be:

    400mg Divanill
    200mg Icariin (50%)
    10mg 6-bromo
    5mg Naringin
    This looks very nice...maybe add some Indole-3-carbinol in as well.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    This looks very nice...maybe add some Indole-3-carbinol in as well.
    Indole would be very interesting to run solo, i might try it soon, as i had nice leaning out effects last time i used it with slight strength increses in my squats, could be placebo, but id like to try it and see.
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  18. and this how`s look...?


    TestoBOMB


    DHEA 100 mg.
    Forskolin 25mg
    Tongkat Ali known as Long Jack 100 mg.
    Zinc Gluconate 100 mg.
    Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestris 3500 mg.
    Saw Palmetto 200 mg.
    Avena Sativa extract 100 mg.
    Mulra puoma extract 250 mg.
    Urtica Dioica extract 300mg.
    Epimedium (40% icariin) - 400mg
    Indole-3-carbinol - 300mg
    6 Bromo 25 mg
    3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran 400 mg
    (NAC) N-Acetyl-Cysteine 1000mg
    Na R-Alpha Lipoic Acid (NaR-ALA) 130mg

  19. So I priced out Russians concoction, right at $104 for a batch. 3 pills per serving, 2 a day, 50 days worth so not bad. I am not familiar with the 6-bromo or Divanill, I am assuming these are natural ingredients????

  20. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    So I priced out Russians concoction, right at $104 for a batch. 3 pills per serving, 2 a day, 50 days worth so not bad. I am not familiar with the 6-bromo or Divanill, I am assuming these are natural ingredients????
    Divanill is, but 6-bromo depends on your definition of natural. It does not require PCT, but it is an AI.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  21. Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    6-bromo low your test levels so i chose 6-oxo.
    No, it lowers your estrogen, it is an AI. With a decrease in estrogen you will have more test to free up and use.
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  22. Hmmm... some great suggestions I see here. Would a good 50 day run at 3 pills a day of RussianStar's recipe have some serious positive effects? I am looking at this versus something like Diesel Test HC and Sunami or the new DTP coming out.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Hmmm... some great suggestions I see here. Would a good 50 day run at 3 pills a day of RussianStar's recipe have some serious positive effects? I am looking at this versus something like Diesel Test HC and Sunami or the new DTP coming out.
    It's very low on the Divanill (1600mg/day is the standard starting dose).
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  24. and if its $104 dollars a batch, I would bow out.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    and if its $104 dollars a batch, I would bow out.
    Ya, I am leaning towards Diesel Test Hardcore with Sunami stack; can get 2 bottles of each for the same price and they are a proven natty test booster.

  26. The price of the divanil needs to come down, it is way up there.

    Also you need and Icarrin extract of 50% or higher, the 10% won't cut it.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    I would use 25mg 6-bromo,
    200mg divanill
    120mg forskolhi
    250mg icariin
    10mg zinc
    1mg copper
    reservatrol 400mg

    I would take this 3 times a day.
    SIGN ME UP! haha.. If anyone actually made these, I would definately purchase them (as long as I don't have to pay $104).. haha..

    what a better/cheaper alternative that actually works (and doesn't need any PCT)?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    and this how`s look...?


    TestoBOMB


    DHEA 100 mg.
    Forskolin 25mg
    Tongkat Ali known as Long Jack 100 mg.
    Zinc Gluconate 100 mg.
    Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestris 3500 mg.
    Saw Palmetto 200 mg.
    Avena Sativa extract 100 mg.
    Mulra puoma extract 250 mg.
    Urtica Dioica extract 300mg.
    Epimedium (40% icariin) - 400mg
    Indole-3-carbinol - 300mg
    6 Bromo 25 mg
    3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran 400 mg
    (NAC) N-Acetyl-Cysteine 1000mg
    Na R-Alpha Lipoic Acid (NaR-ALA) 130mg
    Try the dhea at 50mg, if your taking that much zinc you need 3mg of copper at least, preferably 9mg, you dont need urtica in that as it wont be synergystic with the 3,4 divanill, you might get itching from that amount of trib too, and some toxin build up.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    I would use 25mg 6-bromo,
    200mg divanill
    120mg forskolhi
    250mg icariin
    10mg zinc
    1mg copper
    reservatrol 400mg

    I would take this 3 times a day.
    If you drop the forskolhi, it would be cheaper but not as effective, im working on something as a natty test booster that could be much more economical, here you could replace the bromo with indole, the forskholi with p-serine, and the zinc and copper with dhea, that would be cheaper.

    Im starting a sponsored log soon, il show you then what il be using as my PCT, i made up a selection of ingredients that i have used as a natty test booster, and my brother has been running now for 5 weeks, and he has had some good gains, 2lb in muscle lost over 1.5lb of fat, set a pb on the bench, and improved his sprint time for the 100metres, nothing spectacular, but it shows it works.
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  30. Hi Guys, I only want to do two caps twice a day, what about below, what could I have done better?

    Ingredients %DV
    3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran (95% Extract) 640 MG N/A
    Fenugreek PE 50% (Testofen) 300 MG N/A
    Resveratrol (From Polygonum cuspidatum) 100 MG N/A
    Coleus Forskohlii (20% forskolin) 47 MG N/A

    It will be above twice a day

  31. Damn New Zealand, all of the board is sleeping now

  32. On second thought , I think I should rather go for:

    Fenugreek PE 50% 300 MG N/A
    3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran 600 MG N/A
    Resveratrol 150 MG N/A

    Above twice a day!

  33. Quote Originally Posted by KiwiBoy View Post
    On second thought , I think I should rather go for:

    Fenugreek PE 50% 300 MG N/A
    3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran 600 MG N/A
    Resveratrol 150 MG N/A

    Above twice a day!
    Fenugreek can cause men to produce milk, its been used to increase the amount of milk a breast feeding mum produces, but hey if you like milk, why not make your own.
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  34. Advice then please, would it be better to go for Forskolin, what would you swap the Fenotest for?

  35. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Try the dhea at 50mg, if your taking that much zinc you need 3mg of copper at least, preferably 9mg, you dont need urtica in that as it wont be synergystic with the 3,4 divanill, you might get itching from that amount of trib too, and some toxin build up.
    The OP said 100mg of Zinc Gluconate. This yields 15mg of elemental zinc so no need to be taking any copper whatsoever.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by dixie normus View Post
    The OP said 100mg of Zinc Gluconate. This yields 15mg of elemental zinc so no need to be taking any copper whatsoever.
    According to some studies it doesnt matter, if you consume 100mg of any zinc compound, even if the elemental weight is low, it can hinder or stop copper absorbtion, wich for certain people could be damaging, wich is why i said what i did,
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  37. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Try the dhea at 50mg, if your taking that much zinc you need 3mg of copper at least, preferably 9mg, you dont need urtica in that as it wont be synergystic with the 3,4 divanill, you might get itching from that amount of trib too, and some toxin build up.
    good!!!!

  38. Divanil
    Fenugreek
    I3C
    B6
    Zinc
    Magnesium

    Then whatever sex stuff you want, Maca, longjack, etc.

  39. Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    If you drop the forskolhi, it would be cheaper but not as effective, im working on something as a natty test booster that could be much more economical, here you could replace the bromo with indole, the forskholi with p-serine, and the zinc and copper with dhea, that would be cheaper.

    Im starting a sponsored log soon, il show you then what il be using as my PCT, i made up a selection of ingredients that i have used as a natty test booster, and my brother has been running now for 5 weeks, and he has had some good gains, 2lb in muscle lost over 1.5lb of fat, set a pb on the bench, and improved his sprint time for the 100metres, nothing spectacular, but it shows it works.
    I am very interested. Keep me updated brother.

  40. i'd put something together that would give me the following daily dose
    divanilly 1600
    icariin50 600
    6-oxo 300
    zinc 60
    i3c ??
    piperine
  

  
 

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