Normally I wouldn't get so excited about a new Multi Vitamin but.
- 01-16-2013, 04:58 AM
- 01-16-2013, 08:59 AM
when you are trying to put together a daily-use product for the masses, you are not going to put above-clinical-level servings of all the components we are hitting here..
this is meant to be a nice, extremely well-rounded vehicle for daily consumption, 365 days a year -- and still be affordable
if you had no fiscal constraints, and weren't worried about losing $ making such a product, sure..
even then - a consumer really wouldn't WANT to take such a beast on a daily basis
no company in their right mind (or that wants to continue to exist) would offer up a product like he proposes
it will never happen, by anybody, anywhere
it is what it is
- 01-16-2013, 09:52 AM
01-16-2013, 09:55 AM
01-16-2013, 09:59 AM
01-16-2013, 09:59 AM
01-16-2013, 10:39 AM
01-16-2013, 12:50 PM
01-16-2013, 05:51 PM
Release date, from within the FINAFLEX warehouse, we are hoping to have it in our hands by the end of the month, in the hands of the distributors by February, and in the hands of retailers by the end of the first week of February, don't hold me to it, there are many things that can cause delays, but that is the plan!
Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!
01-16-2013, 06:11 PM
01-16-2013, 06:16 PM
Yeah if price wasnt a concern I could too. LOL This one will be great in the mean time. Just enough to get you where you should be not to run things for specific uses / reasons. You also have to go on the hopeful assumption that the person is getting some of the daily requirements of most of these things in there diet. It is called a supplement not a supply...
Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
01-17-2013, 06:19 AM
01-17-2013, 05:10 PM
01-17-2013, 05:17 PM
Yeah I like it. I will definitely be changing my multi!
Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
01-17-2013, 07:25 PM
01-18-2013, 04:29 AM
01-21-2013, 09:40 PM
Everyone in here calling that guy a shill or troll is fine but he is absolutely correct. This multi is quite a let down. Inferior forms of vitamins, and those blends are dosed so low I have no idea why they even include it. You have tons of ingredients and tons of proposed effects from those ingredients yet not one is dosed accordingly. I'd rather see you dose one blend well then five blends pixie dusted.
01-21-2013, 11:39 PM
01-22-2013, 08:59 AM
fact is - this guy (to put it in forum-speak) was indeed a classic troll, creating an account ONLY to bash Finaflex and anyone involved inc reps and AM users..that is all he did, in his 5 posts. this is not debatable
now, the points you bring up..rather than critique, why not show us a vitamin you think is superior?
another fact for you - you can find fault, in the realm of "a perfect world" of "scientific study", with ANY multi on the market
no company creates a perfect multi -
#1 there is no need to, as this is not meant to be your SOLE source of nutrition; and
#2 - a company does not want to produce a multi that would be so far off the map in price that no one would purchase it
at the end of the day, a company is in business to make $, not create "the perfect product" that will sit on shelves of stores across america
for my part, i have explained enuff what the philosophy and spirit of this vitamin is meant to embody
so show us what you feel the perfect vitamin is, that exists
on a personal level, i would like to see methylcobalamin for B12 (but again - not many vitamins exisiting even have that, and still these vitamins with 'inferior' forms of B12 are some respected top-sellers on the market)..
and in fact - this may yet be changed to include that form of b12, after the first production run is completed
so again, we welcome constructive criticism (not bashing)
if you have an idea of the perfect multi, show us
01-22-2013, 09:01 AM
01-22-2013, 10:48 AM
a high quality pharmacuetical grade multi-vitamin for athletes is going to cost you no less than 50$.
but why would you want anything but the best?
at the least, this is in capsules.
01-22-2013, 10:56 AM
we are not designing a multi for athletes my friend, rather the general masses
and - just as importanly - athletes probably understand nutrition better than the average joe, no?
therefore, their dietary intakes are structured far & above beyond what the average joe comprehends
with me so far?
so in essence - why would we tailor a product to the small % of the population it would be suitable for, when that small % wouldn't need to rely on such a multi in the first place?
thus - your point in itself, becomes quite invalid
01-22-2013, 11:00 AM
01-22-2013, 11:00 AM
In this day and age where everyone is looking to gt healthy not just athletes this multi would sell very well and actually provide benefits.
01-22-2013, 11:07 AM
either that, or you take my response personally (you shouldn't do that)
many in the 'health' industry debate the need for a multivitamin to begin with..
there are many facets and components to this conversation, that you conveniently skip over, with such stance that you espouse
perfect world: sourcing no issue, cost no issue, interest levels for such a beast high..
okay - what you say sounds good
reality my friend, is your enemy
01-22-2013, 11:08 AM
the idea of a 'perfect multi' shows a lack of corporate understanding, and all the points i addressed above
if you feel that to be the case, please find funding and create your own multi
market it, promote it, get it out there
let me know how that works out for you
01-22-2013, 11:09 AM
01-22-2013, 11:10 AM
01-22-2013, 11:11 AM
differences of opinion are bound to happen, you just happen to be on the side of the fence where people feel differently.
01-22-2013, 11:16 AM
you'll have to forgive me, in several threads right now, sorry!
yes, you are grounded in reality, and the multi we have structured does indeed provide the benefits one is meant to get by supplementing with a multivitamin
thank you for your input
01-22-2013, 11:21 AM
01-22-2013, 11:26 AM
that is not the case here: you are attempting to bastardize the concept of what a multivitamin should be about
you espouse all of your RDAs (and exceeding RDAs in fact) -- in their most pristine and biologically pure forms -- in a pill, with no thought to food intake
that is not, and will NEVER be, what a multivitamin is supposed to be all about
but i thank you, an SNS rep, for playing devils advocate here in our promo thread
we still appreciate all constructive criticism, even from any source
01-22-2013, 11:30 AM
A multivitamin is preparation intended to be a dietary supplement with vitamins, dietary minerals, and other nutritional elements.
01-22-2013, 11:58 AM
MY BAD GUYS I OBVIOUSLY FORGOT SUPPS COME BEFORE DIET SO FINAFLEX SHOULD HAVE HE PERFECT MULTI.
01-22-2013, 12:15 PM
I didn't say what I thought would be better or should be changed cause the "troll" already did. My beef is more so with the blends you include to cover things like liver and joint and cognition and how drastically underdosed they are. You won't be able to tell a difference in any of those categories because the doses are pixie dusted. Would you buy a pre workout that has tons of blends yet not one is dosed accordingly? Who cares if it covers every category know to man if it won't have an appreciable effect in anything cause rather than being good at one thing it was bad at everything.
01-22-2013, 01:51 PM
nobody here is insulting you for sharing your opinion
if you want to discuss things intelligently, great
if not - please find another thread in which to spew your angst
the troll and all issues he raised, have been countered, more than once i thinkI didn't say what I thought would be better or should be changed cause the "troll" already did.
yes we have covered this as wellMy beef is more so with the blends you include to cover things like liver and joint and cognition and how drastically underdosed they are. You won't be able to tell a difference in any of those categories because the doses are pixie dusted.
they are not meant to be full-blown specialty corrective doses of the items you mention, such as a stand-alone product would be
so now, your issue is with the label?
and this is quite a stretch, not even an accurate comparisonWould you buy a pre workout that has tons of blends yet not one is dosed accordingly? Who cares if it covers every category know to man if it won't have an appreciable effect in anything cause rather than being good at one thing it was bad at everything.
we have RDA levels (and beyond) of vitamins, minerals, and a bonus of some unique compounds we have included
there are NO RDA-type levels for these things you mention, and no studies that i am aware of show of "minimum levels" of recommendation for some of these compounds needed in which to be operative let alone your opinion of "effective"
if you have a valid scientific stance with which to show us that this is "pixie-dusting" and will provide no benefit, please share
otherwise, i think you have voiced your OPINION, are simply here to denigrate the product and its design, it has been heard and i don't think you need bother with anything else, no?
01-22-2013, 01:57 PM
01-22-2013, 02:01 PM
01-22-2013, 02:57 PM
It looks to me that everyone who said something positive about this multi (including myself) are the ones being educated.
There are some pretty smart people making some valid points in here.
The ingredient profile is not ideal on all fronts. That has been proven true here.
But spending $60 on a multi is not ideal either. Especially for guys like me who couldn't care less about fancy ingredient profiles.
I just take vitamins because they are a cheap staple.
01-22-2013, 03:19 PM
i felt we have covered the continuous issues that have been brought about
the issues continue to be repeated not in a conversational aspect, but as if there is negativity to be inferred and intended (since, once again, these issues have been covered), and the negative interraction with others is obvious
a larger issue, is to have a rep from another company coming in to detract and criticize the product in our promotional thread, which as you should very well know is pointed prohibited behavior on this forum
love to discuss things, in the appropriate manner..
the company wants valid feedback..what upstanding company would not want feedback on their product?
it allows us to hear you guys, and make changes to product if we can and find it to be both suitable and practical
what has transpired here, has not been with this positive intent in mind
quite frankly, i find it to be sad
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