P-BOLD Looking for loggers.

[LiveToLift]

The AI is tricky. It keeps water weight off, which in harsher short cycles like with dbol you would expect to gain weight fast, basically relying on the water weight to satisfy yourself.
With this the weight slowly builds, and seemingly takes a bit to start showing itself. The AI eliminates that initial jump in water weight, resulting in more maintainable gains when the scale does move up.

Got that part, I don't even put that kinda weight on with sdrol so it was a bit hard to grasp. Good stuff.

[Spaniard]

I really don't think that anyone who has run super strong products like superdrol should ever comment on something milder. Of course its going to seem like a weak product after SD or others alike lol. I notice this happening a lot on these boards

I've never ran anything of that nature

- Valdez

[Spaniard]

I would expect the average experienced lifter to gain 10 pounds in a 6 week cycle of this eating above maintenance calories.
Could probably gain 20 pounds eating like crazy.
Even on a caloric deficit I feel strength gains would be a definite.

Those are pretty lofty hopes...

- Valdez

[mich29]

Running superdrol and then going directly into a compound like p-bold will probably make you second guess it, but the thing you have to remember is this compound is a lot more safe and the results are much more maintainable than superdrol.

very very good points here.def things one would have to remember and huge pluses

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Those are pretty lofty hopes...

- Valdez

The past logs were more than hopes. They were solid evidence.

[Spaniard]

The past logs were more than hopes. They were solid evidence.

I would very rarely say that logs are "solid evidence" to anything. Evidence isn't based on an experience or opinion. The logs are for creating hype behind a product and a users experience with the product, at which point you're taking the users interpretation and opinion of the effects of the product.

I ran it and the other logs that I read/followed seemed to have minimal to moderate (at best) benefits, nothing anywhere close to 20lbs. Except yours if I remember correctly you gained 12lbs?

"Strength gains" was the most reported benefit. You can get strength gains from creatine without suppression. I'm just stating my opinion - P-Bold isn't worth the possible suppression.

- Valdez

[xR1pp3Rx]

i doesed at 12ml devided 4 times per day on the 6s. yes a midnight dose was used through out. at about week 5 i noticed considerable increses in vascularity.. i stacked it with tvar so i will not compare notes on strength or muscle gains. i will add tho.. i switched up from pro-eq(pbold) to eq-plex wich is a one step ph to boldione, dosed at 1000 mgs perday.. literally i noticed no chnages from week 5 to now the end of my 8 week cycle.
that to me says alot about the effects of this PH.. its a little slower to get going but then deffinately adds to redblood building. again i cant say it has anything to do with mass or strength. im up 12 lbs in 8 weeks while running the body opus diet to the 9s.

[bigbumpkin]

I was a beta tester on another site for this and was extremely happy with the product

[Spaniard]

i doesed at 12ml devided 4 times per day on the 6s. yes a midnight dose was used through out. at about week 5 i noticed considerable increses in vascularity.. i stacked it with tvar so i will not compare notes on strength or muscle gains. i will add tho.. i switched up from pro-eq(pbold) to eq-plex wich is a one step ph to boldione, dosed at 1000 mgs perday.. literally i noticed no chnages from week 5 to now the end of my 8 week cycle.
that to me says alot about the effects of this PH.. its a little slower to get going but then deffinately adds to redblood building. again i cant say it has anything to do with mass or strength. im up 12 lbs in 8 weeks while running the body opus diet to the 9s.

So you didn't run it solo?

- Valdez

[Spaniard]

I was a beta tester on another site for this and was extremely happy with the product

What were your results? Yours is one of the logs I was referring to. You super dosed it right? Like 12mL+? I stayed at 8 this may be where the differences are...

- Valdez

[Spaniard]

And just so everyone continues to wear their panties properly, instead of getting them up in a bunch, I'm just being objective.

I'm not a rep or a fan boy. I have no allegiances and my posts reflect that.

- Valdez

[mich29]

normally what I do with a product is research it to see what reserach says it should do,then read through logs to see if it has patterns of effectiveness that reflect research. From what I've gathered from p bold is its an effective way to bulk up or lean bulk more safely than a standard ph/ds which in itself is a great option to have.I too would like to see more logs to better help making a decision on whether to use it or not.

[xR1pp3Rx]

So you didn't run it solo?

- Valdez

no ive stated it many times.. i ran (am running still) with tvar.

[Spaniard]

no ive stated it many times.. i ran (am running still) with tvar.

Unless ran solo your results are rather skewed...

- Valdez

[xR1pp3Rx]

Unless ran solo your results are rather skewed...

- Valdez

i stated that many times also.. jus sayin your trying to call me out and im well aware of the situation dudebro

[Spaniard]

i stated that many times also.. jus sayin your trying to call me out and im well aware of the situation dudebro

I'm not calling you out at all man, not in the slightest. I'm talking about the product, not you personally.

All I was saying is that your results can't really be attributed to P-Bold since you did not run it solo. You stated you gained 12lbs which is really a moot point due to you running multiple compounds, that's all bud.

- Valdez

[xR1pp3Rx]

got cha.. yes i was trying to be very clear about that.. thats why im skepticle about p-bold already.. i think i said in this thread that i wouldnt expect more than improved red blood cell production and thats all.. i didnt see any strength at all. not even in legs. FML... i wish i could get OG trenadrol still.

[vanbeast73]

I'm willing to do this

[mich29]

def would like to see a solid solo run of this product so we can better judge it.on paper it looks pretty good but as we all know real world experience is a heavy factor

[Spaniard]

def would like to see a solid solo run of this product so we can better judge it.on paper it looks pretty good but as we all know real world experience is a heavy factor

There are 3 or 4 floating around. I along with Jim, Kowalski and bumpkin ran it solo...

- Valdez