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  1. Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    well in that bs study 5mg per kg so if u weighed 80kg then ud need like 400mg or som thing to get the dbol like results lolh
    400 mg is within the safe dosage limits for ecdy, and for $20 dollars a bottle this would be a cheaper and safer alternative to D-bol. So if it yields similar results why not? For 6 bottles of the 99% ecdy, that would be $120 dollars, you could dose at 400 mg per day. The problem is, the only way ecdy compares to D-bol is when you inject it.
    I wish there was a study that could tell us what percentage of orally administered ecdy was actually delivered to the bloodstream. That way we could dose according to percent delivered, assuming any is actually absorbed. Sadly, I believe its such a low percentage, and thus a high dose required, that one would be spending to much on the ecdy to justify the results obtained.


  2. but how much dbol is comparable to 400mg ecdy? it might be a clinical dose, something like 5mg dbol or less... someone should run this at 400mg/day and see what happens. one of the guys on here ran 200mg, but thats the highest ive ever heard of running the 99% stuff. do it! id also love to shoot this stuff up like russian did it and as has been done in some of the tests.
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  3. I second that idea. I would love to inject the stuff. I believe Russianstar did that a while back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    but how much dbol is comparable to 400mg ecdy? it might be a clinical dose, something like 5mg dbol or less... someone should run this at 400mg/day and see what happens. one of the guys on here ran 200mg, but thats the highest ive ever heard of running the 99% stuff. do it! id also love to shoot this stuff up like russian did it and as has been done in some of the tests.
    I believe the studies being referred to when relating the anabolic activity of ecdy to d-bol are on a gram for gram basis. For a study to claim one substance is more anabolic than another it only seems fair that its is an equal dose. However, just as in politics, funding can skew the findings of any study...

    Do you know if the individual running the 200 mg a day had any success?

    I've read russianstar's logs and he did great with the injections but I'd personally prefer not to go that route.

    I may try this product out, grab two bottles and dose at 400 mg a day for 10 days. I won't be expecting much mass gain but surely my recovery will be e****lent if the product does indeed work.

    I wish someone here could explain how a more pure/ more crystallized ecdy extract increases bioavailability. I don't know enough about the chemistry to argue for or against it. Sounds like a wonderful graduate seminar topic tho

  5. yup, the guys name is outstanding. he posts in all the ecdysterone threads, just check out the link to his thread thats in his signature... the only problem is the things like 40 pages long. you might just be better off just directly ask him his review of it instead of searching for it. maybe he will post here as i was also sort of curious but couldnt find what i was looking for in his log.

    dbol is taken in lower doses than ebol. 25mg of dbol per day is a moderate dose. so not on a mg:mg comparison.

    i rly dont understand the whole crystallization thing but im willing to give it a shot. if you do decide to try it out at 400mg, i would try to space them out as evenly as possible as the half life is relatively short. that would be 16 caps a day, so maybe one every hour? that would be a PIITB but the results would be epic. i would definitely follow the Blueprint outline (if youve ever heard of that) which is basically a way to make ecdy products work better
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  6. Vaughn said the half life is 9 hours. I believe he had a study but it was done on rats.


  7. Question for you guys; can I take this on an empty stomach? I've seen that the recommendations for this product and other ecdy products says to take before a meal or with a protein shake. The reason for my question is that I run an intermittent fasting protocol where I don't eat my first meal until 1pm with my last meal coming in around 9pm. Obviously I can correspond a dose with my first meal and with my last meal but can I take a dose early morning on an empty stomach?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    yup, the guys name is outstanding. he posts in all the ecdysterone threads, just check out the link to his thread thats in his signature... the only problem is the things like 40 pages long. you might just be better off just directly ask him his review of it instead of searching for it. maybe he will post here as i was also sort of curious but couldnt find what i was looking for in his log.

    dbol is taken in lower doses than ebol. 25mg of dbol per day is a moderate dose. so not on a mg:mg comparison.

    i rly dont understand the whole crystallization thing but im willing to give it a shot. if you do decide to try it out at 400mg, i would try to space them out as evenly as possible as the half life is relatively short. that would be 16 caps a day, so maybe one every hour? that would be a PIITB but the results would be epic. i would definitely follow the Blueprint outline (if youve ever heard of that) which is basically a way to make ecdy products work better
    Very intriguing, I have seen Outstanding's posts in the ecdy thread. Where can I find more info on the Blueprint outline? And there seems to be conflicting evidence on the half life but that doesn't matter as dosing every hour would be optimal regardless of half life, and it works with me schedule anyway, with classes being an hour long.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by swan1209 View Post
    Very intriguing, I have seen Outstanding's posts in the ecdy thread. Where can I find more info on the Blueprint outline? And there seems to be conflicting evidence on the half life but that doesn't matter as dosing every hour would be optimal regardless of half life, and it works with me schedule anyway, with classes being an hour long.
    google "organic anabolism" and its the first link on google. that takes u to the blueprint main page
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  10. In case anyone was doubtful of the 99% purity claim(came up in another thread)





    >990mg/1000mg = >99% purity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    In case anyone was doubtful of the 99% purity claim(came up in another thread)





    >990mg/1000mg = >99% purity.
    We always try to put out only the best!
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  12. ok, i just tried ordering again. this time it is in stock and i was able to order.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    ok, i just tried ordering again. this time it is in stock and i was able to order.
    Hope you enjoy it!


  14. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    Hope you enjoy it!
    thanks sc, how should i run it?
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    Hope you enjoy it!
    have u gotten yours yet? what dose u plannin on startin off with?
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  16. I got mine and I'm running 75mg a day

  17. Can I take this fasted and remain in the fasted state? I run an intermittent fasting protocol which is why I ask.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by sapentia View Post
    Can I take this fasted and remain in the fasted state? I run an intermittent fasting protocol which is why I ask.
    Might not work as good but won't hurt either


  19. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    Might not work as good but won't hurt either
    i eat 1 big meal a day, with small meals thru the day....could i just take 75mg with the big meal? or does it have to be spread out?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i eat 1 big meal a day, with small meals thru the day....could i just take 75mg with the big meal? or does it have to be spread out?
    I would spread it out due to the half life. 25mg with 3 meals a day or even with amino acids if you workout fasted.


  21. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i eat 1 big meal a day, with small meals thru the day....could i just take 75mg with the big meal? or does it have to be spread out?
    I would think that spreading it out would be the most effective because of the half life. Spreading it out allows you to keep the actives in your body at higher concentrations for longer periods of time, rather then a big boost and then steady decline throughout the day until little of the active ingredient is left in your body. This would allow for maximum results IMO. It might not be a huge difference but every bit helps.


    EDIT: Looks like stakedcop beat me to it!
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    I would spread it out due to the half life. 25mg with 3 meals a day or even with amino acids if you workout fasted.
    cool, you are my go to ecdy guy, lol.

    btw-how do you like this, so far?
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    I would think that spreading it out would be the most effective because of the half life. Spreading it out allows you to keep the actives in your body at higher concentrations for longer periods of time, rather then a big boost and then steady decline throughout the day until little of the active ingredient is left in your body. This would allow for maximum results IMO. It might not be a huge difference but every bit helps.
    thanks, kj. so, 75mg daily is good?
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    thanks, kj. so, 75mg daily is good?
    I can't say with any air of authority since I've never taken ecdy...yet! Don't want to lead anybody astray with assumptions. When I find out the optimal dosing, I'll make sure to let ya know.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    I can't say with any air of authority since I've never taken ecdy...yet! Don't want to lead anybody astray with assumptions. When I find out the optimal dosing, I'll make sure to let ya know.
    great, looks like you have a lot of guys following this thread, so any additional info is appreciated.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    cool, you are my go to ecdy guy, lol.

    btw-how do you like this, so far?
    I would suggest 25mg upon waking 25mg pre w/o then 25mg post w/o. See hoe that works then if you want bump up the pre w/o to 50mg.


  27. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    I would suggest 25mg upon waking 25mg pre w/o then 25mg post w/o. See hoe that works then if you want bump up the pre w/o to 50mg.
    i can do that!!!


    thanks, sc!!!
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  28. Curious. What is the ETA for re-stocking at NP?

  29. I am going to do this and am very looking forward to it. 10humapro tabs 2 ecdy/ 5 humapro tabs 1 ecyd/10 humapro 2 ecyd\5 humapro 1ecyd. In between all that will be real food meals ie free rangr organic eggs, organic milk, chiboni yogurt, chicken, grass fed beef, nuts, fruits and veggies.

  30. It's not out of stock...?
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