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    Thanks, I appreciate it. I've actually been seeing behind the scenes into you guys, and looking forward to what you have in store for the coming months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoopierced1 View Post
    maybe too premature to ask, but any worries about progesterone?

    I also wonder about this.

    If it doesn't aromatize then there has to be some progesterone related action otherwise this would be the perfect gyno-less product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I meant to tell you about the hideous rug you have in the entry way.

    /even though it ties the room together, man.

    Thanks for the help I'll order it now and PM you a link when I start.

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    Found this around...

    Here is an abstract where females took 20mg for 45+ days...and it appears that less than half had any liver issues.

    Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function. Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS

    Abstract

    Twenty mg. of dimetazine, an anabolizing steroid, was administered daily for 45-95 days to 11 gynecological patients. More than 50% of the cases showed no change in the bilirubinemia, the others showed modest to moderate increases. The glutamic-oxalacetic and the glutamic-pyruvic transaminases of the serum increased greatly in 3 patients. The albumins concn. usually decreased in the course of the treatment, while the globulins concn. did not change.

    A new steroid with protein anabolic activity: dimethazine. De Ruggieri, P.; Matscher, R.; Gandolfi, C.; Chiaramonti, D.; Lupo, C.; Pietra, E.; Cavalli, R. Ormonoterap. Richter, Milan, Archivio di Scienze Biologiche (Bologna) (1963), 47(1), 1-19. CODEN: ASBIAL ISSN: 0004-0169. Journal language unavailable. CAN 60:46973 AN 1964:46973 CAPLUS

    Abstract

    Dimethazine (I) was evaluated for the following biol. activities: androgenic, N retaining, P retaining, and Ca retaining. The increase in uptake of -aminoisobutyric acid-1-14C and the increase in body wt. were also investigated. Data obtained, tabulated, and compared to those obtained with methyltestosterone established that I is a protein anabolic steroid with weak androgenic activity.

    No progestenic/estrogenic activity...so this would differentiate it from its chemical relative oxymetholone (anadrol)

    Biological determination of the secondary hormonal activities of dimethazine. Lupo, C.; Matscher, R.; Ruggieri, P. De. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan., Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 990-4. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34624 AN 1963:34624 CAPLUS

    Abstract

    Expts. with rats and rabbits showed that dimethazine, 2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3'-azine has, in contrast to its protein-anabolic properties, practically no estrogenic, progestational, and corticoid activity. Similarly, it has no effect on liver glycogen, and no antiinflammatory action on the anaphylactoid edema.

    Comparisons with methyltest, winny, anadrol and test prop showed better mytropic effect on the castrates with methylmasteron.

    Biological activity of dimethazine in the protein-anabolic field. Matscher, R.; Lupo, C.; De, P. Ruggieri. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan, Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 988-90. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34623 AN 1963:34623 CAPLUS

    Abstract

    Dimethazine (I), 2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3'-azine, was compared to methyltestosterone, oxymethalone, androstanazole and testosterone propionate in its protein-anabolic activity. The tests were made on castrated rats with a single hypodermic injection of 250 , on young male and female rats with increasing daily oral doses from 100 to 1000 for 30 days, and on adult male rats with daily oral doses of 1000 for 25 days. It was shown that I did not interfere with the growth of young animals; that adult rats treated with I gained, on an av., 20 g. more in wt. than the controls; and that I had a greater myotropic effect on castrates than the other steroids, and induced a higher N retention than methyltestosterone in adult males.
    Hmm... sounds like it might actually be what DS used in the beta-testing of SD.. Me likey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND View Post
    Found this around...



    Hmm... sounds like it might actually be what DS used in the beta-testing of SD.. Me likey!

    nice find broski!
    it looks good indeed.
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    How can this be so powerfull but only induce minor shutdown??

    I'm guessing the shutdown on this is minor due to the recomendation of OTC PCT.
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    Was searching this and came across its synonym, Mebolazine (@isomerdesign), which does indeed look exactly like the structure shown above. I've seen many site links saying its illegal in various countries, including Canada, and in some US states. It is categorized as an androstanol researched as far back as 74.
    I might be completely oblivious, but otherwise, I'll do actual research on campus tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peteypab View Post
    Yes clinical, in due time my friend we will post it up closer to the presale date. I assure you its backed by research.

    Can we say yet if this is a test or progesterone, etc. derivative?


    Additionally, will it be expected to increase or decrease libido (truthfully.....)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etomic View Post
    Was searching this and came across its synonym, Mebolazine (@isomerdesign), which does indeed look exactly like the structure shown above. I've seen many site links saying its illegal in various countries, including Canada, and in some US states. It is categorized as an androstanol researched as far back as 74.
    I might be completely oblivious, but otherwise, I'll do actual research on campus tomorrow.
    BK mentions the commercial steroids Bolazine and Mebolazine in the article as proof these steroids work orally. You should know that Mebolazine is a c-17aa form of Drostanolone ("azinated"). It works orally, but obviosuly because it is methylated. Bolazine is an azinated drostanolone (without methylation), but was esterified and sold as an injectable, not oral. They were sold as "Roxilon" and "Roxilon Inject" respectively.
    ^^The above is from WL in an Avant post from 2003.
    This is 17-beta-hydroxy-2-alpha, 17-dimethyl-5-alpha-androstan-3-one azine
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    i hope this **** isn't expansive!!
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    I've read Dymethazine is SD with an azine group attached.

    Is that correct?

    What is the biological function of the azine group?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBerto View Post
    I've read Dymethazine is SD with an azine group attached.

    Is that correct?

    What is the biological function of the azine group?
    Its pyridine, which serves many functions in chemical synthesis as a building block, reagent, and solvent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    Its pyridine, which serves many functions in chemical synthesis as a building block, reagent, and solvent.

    So how similar will its action and effects be to SD in vivo??

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    will the dosage/cap count be enough to get a decent run with one bottle or will it be more along the lines of when 1,4AD Bold had only 60 caps per bottle and people needed to buy 2 - 3 bottles to get a decent crack at it?

    how much will it be selling for approx? more than $50?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b unit View Post
    will the dosage/cap count be enough to get a decent run with one bottle or will it be more along the lines of when 1,4AD Bold had only 60 caps per bottle and people needed to buy 2 - 3 bottles to get a decent crack at it?

    how much will it be selling for approx? more than $50?

    1 bottle = 1 cycle


    pricing will be released when the product is
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    I'm really stoked about this stuff....

    But I miss the old days where you could get 1 full cycle and then some outta one bottle (90ct SD)
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    yikes strongest anabolic to [andro]. don't know if this ones for me because I like many other guys seem to be prone to hair loss somewhat and like to keep a full head of hair.
    and why the hell would it matter to mr natural smeaton? are you dabbling in anabolics and not telling??? alot of guys that claim to be natural do that sort of thing....
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    this looks very very promising according to the studies ozarka posted. only time will tell.

    Iforce guys do you guys know of people that tested it?
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    Question The Azine bond


    Quote Originally Posted by JBerto View Post
    I've read Dymethazine is SD with an azine group attached.

    Is that correct?

    What is the biological function of the azine group?
    Bump for this. Anyone could give us more info about that?

    The azine bond can protect the liver or improve oral availability of the compund?

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    Anticipation,... I've been using Reversitol after my epi run, and liking the effects. That being said, I am sold on I-Force, and can't wait for this to come out!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBerto View Post
    I've read Dymethazine is SD with an azine group attached.

    Is that correct?

    What is the biological function of the azine group?

    Hey, PA has just answered to this at BB forums:

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
    the azine bond links two superdrol molecules together. This bond is slowly hydrolyzed in the body and the superdrols are released. it may be the slow release that reduces toxicity

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBerto View Post
    Hey, PA has just answered to this at BB forums:

    So basically are we saying that this compound is two superdrols bonded together by the azine group......and then when the azine group is hydrolyzed you have regular Superdrol floating around in your body but at twice the concentration of the same mg amount of regular Superdrol?

    Is there any reason to believe that this compound will provide different effects/side effects to regular SD??? (besides the afore mentioned decrease in toxcicity until the two SDs are separated). Does the compound before being hydrolyzed have any activity on its own?


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    Any half-life theories yet?
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    ahhh....dammmnit...

    right when I'm about to plan an awesome cycle of pheraplex/havoc so I can get a good highly anabolic and highly androgenic mixture....something like this has to be rumored...now I must wait until this product is released and tested so my body will be ready to run asap.
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    Hell yeah, I love supplements! Can't wait for this one!
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    This sounds like a solid supplement. I can’t wait for some more info to be released. I have had really good results with superdrol….(who hasn’t)…. in the past and if the results are at least as good but less toxic I am sold. I went to the doc after my first cycle of superdrol and pro mag taking two a day of each for three weeks… I know they are both methyl’s it wasn’t the smartest thing I have ever done…I had blood work done and the doc told me my liver enzymes where slightly elevated. I know they are back to norm now but I really have been trying my hardest to not do another cycle of m-drol to keep the liver happy so if dymethazine isn’t as toxic I will be a user for as long as it’s on the market. I think I-force is a solid company. I really like the bold 200 but I wish they would stop teasing us and release some solid info soon so my blue balls will go away
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    cool, so a 'safer' version of superdrol?
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    Looks tasty. Great work iForce!
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    I will admit. I am going to be runnin a log soon of havoc/MMv2 and it just so happens that I haven't bought the MMv2 till next Thursday (sorry thundergod, but I will) and I would consider running this supp in the stack if it kept me buyin 2 bottles of MMv2! Oh yeah!!
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    Did I mention I am using reversitol as part of my PCT for upcoming stack!
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    is MMv2 any good? I have the C.E.L M-Drol. are they the same compund 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol ?
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    Might wanna look that one up some more big daddy! M-Drol = superdrol!
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    Subbed -my interest has been peaked, guess I will just wait patiently for into like everybody else.
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    Looks interesting. I'll be curious to learn more about it as the details emerge.
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    i'll always be a skeptic. i dont see how something can compare to superdrol yet not need a PCT consisting of a SERM.

    seems too good to be true kinda like the "other" supplement that was recently released....COUGHprimeCOUGH
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb2525 View Post
    is MMv2 any good? I have the C.E.L M-Drol. are they the same compund 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol ?
    NO.

    The original LG Masterdrol was Superdrol, which is the same as Mdrol... which to my knowledge is essentially methylated masteron.

    MMV2 is a non-methylated PH that converts to Stanalone.
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    Ok thanks GMG760 I started of using the LG’s Methyl Masterdrol and switched to C.E.L M-Drol when I could no longer find the LG version. I just didn’t know what the MMV2 was I was thinking maybe the MM stood for Methyl Masterdrol thanks for clearing that up for me that it isnt the samething. After looking around I found it is called methyl masterdrolV2 but I think that’s just for marketing
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb2525 View Post
    Ok thanks GMG760 I started of using the LGís Methyl Masterdrol and switched to C.E.L M-Drol when I could no longer find the LG version. I just didnít know what the MMV2 was I was thinking maybe the MM stood for Methyl Masterdrol thanks for clearing that up for me that it isnt the samething. After looking around I found it is called methyl masterdrolV2 but I think thatís just for marketing
    You are correct sir. It is called MEthyl Masterdrol Version 2... but it isnt masterdrol. This is not what the thread is about though... back to IFORCE!!!... sorry for the hijack.
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