PROTOMAX is here, well not here, exactly but..
- 07-05-2010, 09:07 PM
- 07-06-2010, 09:00 PMPHF Rep
- 07-06-2010, 09:07 PM
07-06-2010, 09:21 PM
Have the Betamax bottles been shipped to those users?
PM me with any order questions and concerns
07-07-2010, 02:19 PM
Perhaps you should contact Natalie or LMD to see...The reps here are not at the wharehouses packing up bottles for people...All we do is relay the addresses from the members to those who the ship the product. Seems to me that you have been paying an awful lot of attention to IBE these days ?...Remember bringing a new product to the market can be difficult. With lots of variables, different bottling companies, labeling companies, getting raws tested, etc, etc, We have had our fair share of "hangups" especially in the bottle/label dept, but generally everyone tends to be fairly happy with IBE products once they hit the market...The reps apologize for the delays that happen getting them out, but it has nothing to do with us, and is completely out of our control.
07-07-2010, 03:36 PM
I'm anxious to purchase the product. I want to see the logs also to see what kind of results there are. I think everyone here is a little frustrated at every delay and posts from the reps.
07-07-2010, 03:42 PM
Well again there is nothing that we as reps can do about it...Would you rather us not respond at all ??? We are just relaying what we have been told by the people who run IBE...It's not like we as reps are sitting around making excuses. We can only give you guys what we know, and that's exactly what we are doing...I can understand the frustration, but try to understand our position as well.
07-08-2010, 07:12 PM
Just wanted to thank the IBE guys for releasing protomax - I think its the best stuff out there for low tox and low sides but with decent weight/size gains. I got better results than on Stane, Bold or 11oxo.
07-09-2010, 01:30 PM
What did you mean by being your favorite oral with where you are in your life and development?
Also, I know it is not advised to remain on any AAS/PH continuously... but with Proto's low occurrence of side effects and limited suppression, would you consider this to be an even better choice for bridging between cycles than Epistane? Since Epistane is becoming increasingly difficult to locate/purchase, I am looking for a well rounded relatively safe bridging compound to take concomitantly with SERMs/AIs and Testosterone support supplements between cycles.
07-09-2010, 01:57 PM
I like Protodrol the best because it has the best blend of all effects for me with little or no side effects. Especially a positive feeling emotionally, affect etc. No depression, lethargy, decreased libido. Nothing like that. Decent Alpha Male feeling without getting me crazy, increase in libido.
It appeared to have some effect in assisting loss of body fat. Lean mass gains were significant but not ridiculous like with DBOL or Superdrol. No significant effect on blood pressure or endurance capacity. No gyno or bloating. Possibly slight diuretic effect.
I do not advocate bridging but if you were so inclined then I would say that Protodrol is a better choice then Epi for this purpose.
07-09-2010, 02:06 PM
Thanks for the feedback once again.
07-10-2010, 09:37 AM
07-10-2010, 04:33 PM
Sounds a bit like The One...which is my personal favorite PH. Would love to see it back in some form.
07-10-2010, 04:45 PM
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07-11-2010, 01:38 PM
this sounds great...but I could swear prohormones are now banned? what did I miss? is it because the compounds in this are not illegal, but then become illegal in the body?
07-11-2010, 01:47 PM
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07-11-2010, 04:36 PM
07-12-2010, 08:22 AM
Just as my personal opinion, I believe when we hear wildly differing end-results from users' protocols... it is overwhelmingly often because of lackluster focus and consistency in training/nutrition/rest, or due to a poorly sourced under-dosed product.
07-12-2010, 08:48 AM
Oh I agree when we take anabolism as the only effect of any aas/ph/ps/ds..... purely looking at weight gain/lbm gain I am sure if all other factors are controlled for we might see similar results (of course individual fiber types and other physiological factors still will contribute to the degree of effects from any compound even with proper nutrition and exercise routine)......but I guess what I am remarking on and the vast difference we here between individual reactions to various different compounds, are mostly in the ancillary effects.....i.e. libido increase or decrease; fatigue or energy; acne or no acne; hair loss or no hair loss; etc.
07-12-2010, 09:32 AM
07-13-2010, 08:18 PM
Well I placed my order for Protomax yesterday. I hope to run it some time in the fall since I'm running a cycle now. Are there any logs yet?
07-13-2010, 09:13 PM
I'm 38 and have basically reached my goals. I like TO and other DHT analogues because they are so low maintenance...no gyno worries, low liver impact etc but they put on some nice lean mass and help to burn fat. I run a maintenance cycle perhaps once a year and am not a BBer.
07-15-2010, 12:37 AM
This compound looks interesting- similar to epithio found in epistane- Which I have used to great success
I may just have to pick a bottle of this and methyl s up! would this work in the same way as a superdrol bridge into epistane?
07-16-2010, 07:36 AM
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12-01-2010, 11:58 AM
There were some non responders but for the majority of the loggers they had great success and pct was a breeze !
You can find ProtoMAX at a great low price if you're still interested in buying some.
Also if you have any questions or concerns you can always PM a rep and we'd be happy to help.
12-01-2010, 09:33 PM
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12-01-2010, 09:56 PM
12-01-2010, 09:59 PM
Perfect compound for my physiology. Too bad I cant get it anymore...
12-01-2010, 10:07 PM
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12-01-2010, 10:16 PM
12-01-2010, 10:23 PM
So in my opinion if you ran Protomax it may work fine for you or you may be like me and have responded better to Protodrol.
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