Reps, excellent post - I appreciate it. Dbol has always bloated me and aggravated gyno far too much to be a plausible consideration for future cycles; I gave it a few chances over the years, but just do not respond well to estrogen proliferating steroids. I really have been enjoying my first-ever cycle of Superdrol, I am ending the 2nd week at this point.
Just a heads up: CEL's D-Plex is a clone of The One.
Bioman interesting that The One gave you similar results as described above. My run of The One was more like Superdrol + acne for me then anything else. Yet another example again how each persons individual physiology really determines how they will react to each compound.
No only certain compounds got banned..like the tren compound and a few others...I dont know the specifics, but I recall seeing a list on here a few months back
ohh. ok thanks man!
oh Bioman has been around a while and he knows his stuff not doubt.....I think this is just one of those situations as I said that some people have significantly different results from each different hormone....some results can even be unexpected.
I wonder if anyone has ever had a total failure to achieve hypertrophy or body recomp while on M1T or Superdrol (legitimately sourced) though? I would contend that if an athlete's nutrition and training are adhered to with utmost dedication, these two compounds cannot vary drastically in their sweeping anabolism and renowned success.
Oh, I absolutely understand AND agree now. Thanks for clearing that up Mr. 50.
I believe Mr. 50 is starting a log up soon.
A few ProtoMAX logs have been posted a little while ago in the supplement logs section.Any link to this log? I'd like to see how this stuff works, interested in trying it. I like hearing little to no sides
Ill check the logs out, I will be cycling Epi here soon, i may try protoMAX a few months afterwords. Sounds like nothing to lose
Let me say I love IBE and I just bought some Boladrol.....but with that said I have taken Protodrol from IForce and Protomax from IBE and I did not have the same sort of experience from them. I loved Protodrol but I did not have a good experience at all on Protomax. I can not explain it. I spoke with a rep and he indicated IBE had theirs tested for purity and it was good. Wish there could have been a test on the IForce version because I loved it!Ill check the logs out, I will be cycling Epi here soon, i may try protoMAX a few months afterwords. Sounds like nothing to lose
How were the sides and gains on protodrol?
Absolutely perfect for me based on my age and where I am in training. Decent mass gains with good strength gains. Drastically increased mood and libido. Body fat loss. Pumps but nothing that would inhibit cardio. No other sides.
Shoulda stocked up man:/ I wish i could try it, is it discontinued?
Yes sadly. I had two bottles but they are all gone now.Shoulda stocked up man:/ I wish i could try it, is it discontinued?
Why was it discontinued?..
I guess IForce was getting out of the prohormone business but I wish they would turn somone on to their source and formulation for the original Protodrol.
Do you thinking ProtoMAX would have a better effect on someone my weight, and quite new to PH?
Nah. In my opinion Protodrol and Protomax are not the same compound. And by this I mean that based on my subjective anecdotal evidence they are not the same. And I am not saying that is truth. Its my opinion. Also I am not saying either company duped us or any of that BS. I am just saying that sometimes problems occur in the manufacturing process or with the supplier and what a company thought they were getting turns out not to be what they get. When that happens they may get something better for most users or something worse for most users. You never know.
What did you gain from protomax, or did you gain absolutely nothing?
Oh I made a gain of just under 10 pounds in 4 weeks (keep in mind tissue building wise I respond really well to any compound) which is reasonable but the problem was that I was so lethargic on it, and depressed mood, and lack of libido that the overall experience was not a good one and didnt allow me to get the most out of the cycle because sometimes I was too lethargic to really want to even train.
Clomid work?
Oh yeah....but as you start to decrease the clomid dose you should maybe have an AI available and start to increase the AI as you decrease the clomid.
Ill run 100mg first day, 50mg for the rest of 4 weeks. I should be set
I would say for Proto that would be fine
If you were running Epi what else would you throw in?
Epi is only a marginally stronger compound but if I was going to add anything into an epi cycle it would be to add in an AI (like Arimidex etc.) that would slowly ramp up in dosage towards the end of PCT as Clomid was decreasing. Then after a few more weeks I would phase out the AI. This may quite well be overkill for an epi cycle.
Better overkill then not enough, how about
Should be good for Proto. Watch the prolactin levels on DAA ......insteresting blood work I have seen.Better overkill then not enough, how about
Clomid
DAA
Milk Thistle
Fish Oil
Creatine
Taurine?
I gotta agree with Mr.50Better overkill then not enough, how about
Clomid
DAA
Milk Thistle
Fish Oil
Creatine
Taurine?
I want less endurance... in and out
Supplementing with aprox 250mg L-DOPA a day should keep things stable.
Whatever is cheapest, I doubt quality control is a huge issue with L-DOPA. Bulk powders are always more cost effective, and L-DOPA is a great supplement for a number of reasons. Search the term Dopamine, and you will see the diversity of this catecholamine neurotransmitter/neurohormone.
I always thought so too, thx.
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