[planetfuzz]

Ok...I'm trying to put on weight right now. Strictly bulking. I usually eat my biggest carb meal for breakfast and post workout. By the end of the day I'm way short on calories and I usually just eat a big carb meal before bed. My quality of sleep has sucked lately and I think that might be it. I've thought about just eating more fats at night but I'm kind of stuck in the mind set of always needing to eat carbs. I have worked out for a long time and always had a good diet but this is the first time I am actually making an effort to eat lots of calories and put on weight. I just want to put on quality weight without feeling sluggish and bloated all the time. I'm considering the following options:

1.) The final meal of the day being very low in carbs. Protein shake or a salad.

2.)Adding maltodextrin to my before bed shake since it settles better than other carbs such as pasta.

I've also heard that eating carbs before bed can hurt your growth hormone production. My recovery hasn't been top notch lately so I'm just not sure. I'm going to start taking ZMA in hopes of better sleep. HELP!!!

[edwardyi]

yeah i would decrease the carb intake later throughout the day. so somehow find your goal carb intake, then separate them into meals making breakfast and post-workout with the greatest amount of carbs. i would avoid carbs at night, but i honestly dont sometimes. maybe i'll get a slice of toast with peanut butter and shake. it won't hurt you as long as you have a strict diet and workout rigorously.

[OCCFan023]

Are you going a long time without meal (from the sounds you go form post workout to last meal of the day).

If you have a body that can manage carbs before bed without excessive fat gain than use it to your advantage. However if your body doesn't react well to them than don't sweat it. A protein shake (preferably casein or a tall glass of milk) with a salad and some healthy fats (throw some evoo on that salad or some PB) and your good to go.

I have not heard of carbs blunting the bodies natural ability to produce and utilize growth hormone (GH supplements yes since its being metabolized in the stomach, but not natural supplies).

[planetfuzz]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm lucky enough to probably beable to eat an entire loaf of bread before bed and not gain any fat so I just might use that to my advantage. I tried a smaller meal last night with half as many carbs as usual before bed and it worked wonders.

[WILL DA BEAST]

Originally Posted by planetfuzz

1.) The final meal of the day being very low in carbs. Protein shake or a salad.

or you could eat a protein shake AND a salad

[BigCasino]

Originally Posted by OCCFan023

I have not heard of carbs blunting the bodies natural ability to produce and utilize growth hormone (GH supplements yes since its being metabolized in the stomach, but not natural supplies).

This is mainly at night time, when you enter into deep sleep and your body is attempting to secret growth hormone..... if you had carbs before bed, the resulting elevated insulin levels will compete with and blunt the body's natural sleep time GH secretion. Avoid carbs before bed.

Also, as for carbs in general late @ night, consider anabolic pump or neoVar, some type of nutrient partitioner. AAS works too ;-)

[planetfuzz]

Originally Posted by BigCasino

This is mainly at night time, when you enter into deep sleep and your body is attempting to secret growth hormone..... if you had carbs before bed, the resulting elevated insulin levels will compete with and blunt the body's natural sleep time GH secretion. Avoid carbs before bed.

Also, as for carbs in general late @ night, consider anabolic pump or neoVar, some type of nutrient partitioner. AAS works too ;-)

I've never heard of a nutrient partitioner...what are the benefits of that?

[rpen22]

Originally Posted by planetfuzz

2.)Adding maltodextrin to my before bed shake since it settles better than other carbs such as pasta.

SuperCarb would be a much better option here than Maltodextrin. It will provide a longer lasting supply of glucose with much less of an insulin spike.

[BigCasino]

Originally Posted by planetfuzz

I've never heard of a nutrient partitioner...what are the benefits of that?

Basically, it is just a term to describe an agent that optimizes the way your body stores / uses the foods you ingest. There are two main categories:

Pharmaceuticals, ie:

-Insulin
-IGF-1
-HGH
-AAS

Optimize your body's use of nutrients though hormone modulation.

Then there are supplements that strive to achieve a similar result, these include products like:

- Anabolic Pump
-P-Slin
-NeoVar
- DCP

Most of these act by attempting to block / limit uptake of carbs into fat cells, and instead shuttle them into muscles to be used as blood glucose / intracellur glycogen.

Result? You gain less fat, you store more energy in your muscles.

[planetfuzz]

Originally Posted by BigCasino

Basically, it is just a term to describe an agent that optimizes the way your body stores / uses the foods you ingest. There are two main categories:

Pharmaceuticals, ie:

-Insulin
-IGF-1
-HGH
-AAS

Optimize your body's use of nutrients though hormone modulation.

Then there are supplements that strive to achieve a similar result, these include products like:

- Anabolic Pump
-P-Slin
-NeoVar
- DCP

Most of these act by attempting to block / limit uptake of carbs into fat cells, and instead shuttle them into muscles to be used as blood glucose / intracellur glycogen.

Result? You gain less fat, you store more energy in your muscles.

Thanks for the info. That sounds pretty awesome. I had never heard about this kind of supplement before. I did a little research on Anabolic pump. Defiantly might try that sometime.

[wrasslin116]

Don't have carbs in your last meal. Keep it loww.
If you have carbs before bed it lowers GH levels in your sleep.

[planetfuzz]

Thanks for the help guys. Lately I've been eating a lower carb meal before bed. I'm sleeping better,I don't feel bloated in the morning, and I fall asleep faster.