The Secret to Bulking

**B5150** · 09-10-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EasyEJL

What i'm finding to be a ridiculously successful bulking training mechanism is GVT (German Volume Training)

It is a huge nutrient partioner and a great training method for being used when you employ agents that are anabolic.

**RenegadeRows** · 09-10-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by B5150

It is a huge nutrient partioner and a great training method for being used when you employ agents that are anabolic.

I agree. Isn't that what most of the pros used back in the day??? Long, tiring volume sets + anabolics

SteelEntity · 09-10-2007, 08:14 PM

HIT on paper looks great but achieving sufficient muscle over load with that type of training is far off imo. I did it for 4 weeks and hated it. Mentzer was one smart dude, but his studies show some major flaws. I do love how he emphasizes intensity being the key to success.

I am on a cycle right now and am using Max-OT, I just increase the sets a little since the gear allows for more volume. I keep the reps low 4-8. I feel if you can do more then 8 reps for most lifts you are wasting your time.

I have experience with german volume training and found it just takes to long. Sacrificing weight for reps makes little sense in my mind. Heavy weights causes overload = muscle and strength gains. Lifting at maximum intensity for 10 sets is nearly impossible. Additionally your body is in prime state to lift for about 40 min.

I feel working out is immensely over complicated. All muscle building routines ultimately end with one objective in mind, stimulating muscle fibers, causing growth and strength.

EasyEJL · 09-10-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RenegadeRows

Interesting. DO you follow the 10x10 rep scheme, with one exercise per bodypart?

10x10 with supersets you mean. Hideous workout the first week

but effective.

http://www.strengthcats.com/CP-GVT.html

EasyEJL · 09-10-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B5150

It is a huge nutrient partioner and a great training method for being used when you employ agents that are anabolic.

Well, what i'm taking is the 30-35g of fish oil, neovar, incarnate + leviathan, plus additional creatine and standard supplemet stuff. Nothing exotic. I'm doing the 30 days of this, then cutting for the last half of the PAL transformation content, then GVT again while on cycle

BullzEye · 09-10-2007, 10:26 PM

Are you serious?? Eating well above your caloric maintainence is the secret to gaining mass?1?!1!

Its a f###ing revalation!!!

SteelEntity · 09-10-2007, 10:45 PM

GVT makes no sense to me. If someone wants to shed some light on it then be my guest.

dark phoenix · 09-11-2007, 01:38 AM

thanks for making this thread
as a board newbie there's a few terms that I need to do a search on to fully understand, but I think overall you just saved me a minimum of $100+ bucks I'd have wasted on supplements I really don't need at the local GNC.............

Few things though:
I can't degrade myself enough to run to the dollar value menu at McD's and order a few 'whatever' sandwiches to bulk up is there something else that's affordable that can be substituted for that?

SteelEntity · 09-11-2007, 01:44 AM

cottage cheese is cheap and one of the best things you can eat.
15g protein
1g fat per 1/2 cup serving
100cals

**RenegadeRows** · 09-11-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dark phoenix

thanks for making this thread
as a board newbie there's a few terms that I need to do a search on to fully understand, but I think overall you just saved me a minimum of $100+ bucks I'd have wasted on supplements I really don't need at the local GNC.............

Few things though:
I can't degrade myself enough to run to the dollar value menu at McD's and order a few 'whatever' sandwiches to bulk up is there something else that's affordable that can be substituted for that?

I think I stressed the 'fast food' thing too much. What I'm saying is, eating is the key to growth.

Go to your supermarket and buy chicken, tortilla shells, and whatever else you want to put on them! A favorite of mine.

EasyEJL · 09-11-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelEntity

GVT makes no sense to me. If someone wants to shed some light on it then be my guest.

Its just another way to reach extreme hypertrophy, plus when doing compound exersizes make sure all the different muscles used are wiped out too. Theres also somethign about lactic acid formation. Plus its "safer" and easier on joints as you are using a lighter weight.

SteelEntity · 09-11-2007, 09:01 PM

But light weight doesn't promote muscle overload. I'm going to go read about it a bit.

**B5150** · 09-12-2007, 12:49 AM

But TUT does.

**RenegadeRows** · 09-12-2007, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by B5150

But TUT does.

True.