Marijuana and Bodybuilding
- 09-17-2007, 05:43 PM
- 09-18-2007, 10:44 AM
There is definatelely a possibility of addiction... just b/c something is not "physically" addictive does not mean a person will not become mentally attached to it
either way i know that in moderation the drug can be used safely for the most part and your only real health risk is the fact that it's smoked
i'm just speaking mostly out of personal experience... there are always the exception, and people who are different
And like i said I used to smoke heavy throughout the day everyday so that is alot different than taking a few rips off a joint every night to relax
lol either way i dunno why i'm still arguing about this, it's definately not like me to preach about this type of sh*t, i guess i was just bored yesterday...i have many friends who still blaze and i'll even hit it once in a great while... i just hate f*uckin brain dead potheads!
- 09-18-2007, 11:56 AM
Well yeah, some people who smoke all day long are, shall we say, less than motivated individuals but IMO, they probably lacked that from the get-go.
A puff or two at night before bed was all I ever cared for just for the improved sleep and muscle relaxation. Never have like smoking during the day unless I was really sick.
Though the research seems to indicate moderate use poses little risk of lung disease or cancer..intuitively it's still never good to put smoke in your lungs. Unlike cigarette smoke, MJ by sheer volume and frequency is generally taken in in much smaller amounts and far less often. MJ smoke may have more tar, but less of the tar that is deposited stays in the lungs because it does not kill off the cillia like cig smoke. MJ smoke also tends to be dialate the bronchii whereas cig smoke constricts them making expectoration much more difficult so the toxins stay in the lungs for the long term.
09-18-2007, 12:30 PM
09-19-2007, 07:37 PM
It's funny because I came here to ask this question and the damn thing was already asked. Oh well... Tons of good points but this is how I take it...
After I bust ass in the gym, a car ride with mary relaxes my muscles and I have one hell of a sleep!!! I've seen no side effects as to decreased gains in muscle mass. Until I see a loss in that...mary is my freind.
09-19-2007, 07:40 PM
09-28-2007, 06:23 AM
I find this argument tangential to the b.s. rhetoric used by anti-drug politicians in regards to steroids. The question in this case would be, and more relevant to the overarching topic of the board in general: do steroid "abusing" individuals succumb to fits of "'roid rage", or are individuals susceptible to fits of rage attracted to steroids?
Moreover, you generally only hear and read in the news about the negative aspects and users of illegal and scheduled substances. Why? Legality issues aside, status quo and social perception could play a contributing factor....
09-28-2007, 12:32 PM
Bingo and I beleive there are studies relating to your initial question. Most of the "gateway to other drugs" claims have been disproved by extensive sociological study. Basically they showed that although most addicts of hard drugs also used MJ, nearly all the addicts had come from troubled backgrounds..ie childhoods with instances of mental illness and criminal behavior BEFORE they ever used drugs.
So when you look at it from that perspective, most of your addicts appear to be self medicating..possibly for a pre-existing mental illness. Treating the mental illness would be more humane and just than tossing them into prison and further degrading their lives.
10-08-2007, 10:27 PM
I've been smoking marijuana for some time,..I'd probally be a paranoid retard or a vegetable if all that was true. the medical benefits have made quite a difference in my health and well being. Thanks to the open minds of voters and suporters, the sick now can save themselves from most of the side effects and high costs of perscription meds with a better alternative.
10-08-2007, 11:23 PM
I use GHB every night to go to sleep at just a couple of (ml)s before bed. I use it to sleep through a flight as well. If someone asked what I use to sleep so deeply, 75% of the time if I tell someone what it is, I get, "YOU'RE DATE RAPING YOURSELF! BLAH BLAH BLAH!"
Non-harmful things in moderation, all the way.
Freedom means nothing here.
10-19-2007, 11:48 PM
I agree with everyone on here that a lil weed every once in a while, or even in small amounts daily doesnt cause any problems. I personally do it everynight almost, just to relax after a hard workout and to help increase the appetite. Smoke on all my fellow friends! LOL
10-20-2007, 01:38 AM
10-20-2007, 01:40 AM
10-20-2007, 01:44 AM
10-20-2007, 03:26 AM
Oh... not to mention baking banana peels and trying to extract 'bananadine' with ethyl alcohol in an attempt to make banana-crack in which to smoke and get high. Bro people rarely care about the side effects man. Stop comparing things to alcohol. It's really getting old and just because it's legal, it shouldn't be a fall-back comparison for every known psychotropic substance on Earth.
If you're going to recreationally use a substance to induce a 'higher' state of mind, by all means go about it in a way that is condusive to your health and well-being. It's actually quite simple not to beat around the bush...
ex. "Oh I snort a couple rails of snow every now and then... uhhh but HEY, you know that statistics show that alcohol has been known to cause fetal alcohol syndrome? Coke can't do that!"
Don't justify your habits or behaviors. It lowers your integrity.
Freedom means nothing here.
10-20-2007, 01:52 PM
10-20-2007, 02:08 PM
I'm not a habitual "every night" smoker - nor do I feel the need to defend any choices I make in my life to anyone else.
I'm just saying that ripping on people who smoke weed every now and again because of its "harmful" effects while tolerating and participating in more detrimental activities makes a person a hypocrite.
I'd say cycling is far worse for you than recreational marijuana use, even when used responsibly
10-20-2007, 07:48 PM
10-22-2007, 02:30 PM
10-28-2007, 05:24 PM
you all need to get a VapoCannon and chill the **** out.
10-28-2007, 06:17 PM
Studies have shown that it is possible to actively vaporize component ingredients by heating botanicals to a temperature short of the point of combustion, thereby eliminating or substantially reducing harmful smoke toxins that are normally present in botanical smoke. The vaporizer produces active vapor at a temperature of 360°F - 380°F. while eliminating many toxins, examples such as - benzene, a known carcinogen, plus toluene and naphthalene. Carbon monoxide and smoke tars are both qualitatively reduced by the vaporizer, but additional testing is needed to quantify the extent of the decrease.
There is good reason to believe that the highly carcinogenic tars known as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which are thought to be a leading culprit in smoking-related cancers, are suppressed, since they normally form at much higher temperatures of combustion.
11-07-2007, 04:55 PM
wouldnt using marijuana actually be a good thing
once in a while
you just light up a joint or hit the bong
the munchies would help you eat anyway (provided what you eat isnt junk)
05-04-2008, 10:47 PM
05-05-2008, 09:50 AM
05-05-2008, 09:58 AM
05-06-2008, 04:48 PM
05-06-2008, 05:42 PM
05-09-2008, 12:49 PM
Vaping is not the same, plain and simple. I used to smoke some (ok a ****ton actually) and I never enjoyed vaping really. It works somewhat, but you do not get all the same chemicals as you do smoking it- which is why vaporizer leftovers can be used to make brownies.
There's just nothing like the feeling of smoking a joint... much more relaxing, even if less healthy and efficient. Also the clear papers are cellulose, not plastic, but I would still not use them.
Weed is a vasodilator, especially good fun before a hard bike ride.
I don't smoke up these days but I still wholly endorse it as a social activity. It's cheaper, healthier, and more fun than drinking, and depending where you live legal consequences are unlikely if you are not stupid about it. I've never had any discernable negative health effects (cough or otherwise) from it, don't regret it a bit, and wish I could still do it (current job tests).
05-25-2008, 09:33 PM
I love the mj, i'll be the first to buy marlboro greens
But all of you say a huff and puff a lil now and then is fine and i totally agree, i do the same actually, except a huff might be a blunt and a puff might be a few bowls....but for those who say its ok taking 1 hit or two or day....
what about when u do that for a month or 3 months straight? your tolerance will go up and you will need to take 4x or 5x more than you did when u started to get a feel? thats what i went through and it takes alot for me to get high now....which i dont have a problem with but others might
05-26-2008, 05:12 PM
05-26-2008, 09:52 PM
07-04-2008, 01:10 AM
I agree. I used to own a vaporizer and before that I smoked at least two bowls a day. You get high with the vape but you're not...HIGH. Pretty much,if you enjoy something then do it,just don't over use it and be smart. All I know is that if you're going to do something then smoking is the least harmful. I don't smoke anymore but I'm not opposed to it at all.
07-04-2008, 06:27 AM
haha some funny shhit in this thread, yeah i got a vaporizer which i use a vapezilla to be exact and i only ever use it at night and not all the time. i used it on my first cycle which was epi and managed to gain 18lbs on it.
does anyone get wicked pumps after they've smoked. when you've trained and mull up couple hours later every muscle is just so pumped its awesome
ps any critics of vaping either have crap bud or have not used a good vape that does the job properly. they work and work very well
07-04-2008, 09:37 AM
All I know is:
The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong, too dam skinny, and way too long. I aint a holy roller, so I'll just use a bong
07-04-2008, 10:01 AM
07-04-2008, 05:12 PM
Has anyone tried Nabilone? Works quite well.
07-06-2008, 10:44 PM
07-06-2008, 10:50 PM
idk about ne one else i barely smoke but when i do rarely 1-2 a yr i feel smaller when i get high
07-08-2008, 03:41 PM
I guess I'll come clean. A few hits of the kind is the best pre-workout supplement on the face of the earth, IMO.
07-08-2008, 05:42 PM
I have smoked my share of mary jane and never had any problems.
The boys from oklahoma actually roll some damn fine joints
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