Better to workout every day or every other?
- 07-21-2007, 03:30 PM
Better to workout every day or every other?
Alright so I recently decided I would want to start working out every day. It would look something like this...
....so is there any direct advantage of going daily? The main reason I want to is so I can keep myself busy in the morning and not sleep until noon, and I figured focusing on a specific group would help gain. Am I wrong by this, or would it really not matter? I also heard that working out for longer than an hour causes you to start loosing muscle as well as fat, is this true? Because that is another reason I want to go daily.
- 07-21-2007, 05:41 PM
working out everyday is def not a good idea. ull quickly over train and u dont give ur body time to recover, which is when it grows. also, im assuming since this is in the bulking section, ur having a hard time putting on weight, and if thats the case, less is more. working out everyday is probably more of a disadvantage then an advantage. working out 3 days/week should be plenty. also, make sure to get plenty of compound moves in ur workouts and switch up ur routine from time to time to keep ur body from getting used to it. from my understanding, its a bad idea to work out more than an hour and a half, but i dont think u immediately start losing muscle if u work out longer than that.
look into a 5x5 routine, dogcrap training or hst training if ur looking for size and strength, and make sure ur eating enough. good luck.
07-21-2007, 08:52 PM
If u work out every day then how are the muscles gonna recover..
As far as i know Muscles need 24-48 hour rest to recover after the work out so i would recommend you to work out every other day... it also helps you to love your work out more and more... and trust me every other day you go you will be more energetic....
3 days a week is good.. as doing it every other day and also if you wanna work out four days a week then combine legs and abs and do them..
i use to work out everyday but never gained much...
07-21-2007, 09:25 PM
OK thanks for the advice guys, so anyway I was looking into doggcrap training, I'm thinking of trying it for maybe 2 months. But one thing I'm confused about is that exactly does something like "explosive positive, and A 6-8 SECOND NEGATIVE" mean? What are negatives and positives, I can make an educated guess, but I would rather be informed then guessed.
07-22-2007, 12:06 AM
using bench press as an example: positive is pushing the weight from ur chest to the top and negatives are lowering the weight from the top to ur chest.
07-22-2007, 12:35 AM
when you train, make it a point to stick to an hr max... unless you're taking something like an anti-cortisol that would allow you to train a little longer. the reason for this is that, after 45 or so, your body naturally elevates its cortisol levels. cortisol is an extremely catabolic hormone your body makes, that breaks down muscle tissue. it's highest in the morning when you wake up and again after an intense workout. if you work out for hours at a time your body will begin feeding on its own muscle tissue and you won't gain anything. stick to shorter workouts, eat directly post workout to combat cortisol, and allot yourself enough time to rest and you will grow over time.
i generally stick to a 4 day split (i.e. mon/ tues ON, wed off... thurs/fri ON). this type of routine works pretty well for me. you don't have to devote an entire day to working a single body part. arrange your schedule such that you're working contrasting muscle groups on the same day.
EX: chest/ biceps, back/ triceps or shoulders/ triceps, legs, etc.
This way you're not always hitting similar muscle groups on the same day. Not to say working chest/ tris isn't a good idea per say, but as a way of focusing each muscle individually w/o overtraining this would work.
Training 3 days a week on a HIT plan would also be very effective.
07-22-2007, 09:30 AM
Jimmbow, if you're simply spreading out what you would do in three days into five days that is perfectly fine. Personally I would not structure the routine like that however....
07-22-2007, 03:01 PM
my fault, i read the everyday part and assumed 7 days/week. but i still think that for bulking, less is more, but then again thats a personal thing.
07-23-2007, 02:45 AM
i work out every signle day and all i do is gain
i do a 3 day split
deadlifts 3 sets
calf raises 3 sets
day2 bis and tris
day 3 chest and back
you just have to rest your bodyparts 48 hrs
you can work different muscles everyday
you actually gain alot if your workout everyday
because your pumping gh through your veins everytime you workout
of course i usually do have a day off a week
07-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Since I travel and have sucky sleep I always give it 2 days between exercises b/c my recovery is horrid. No biggie, just gotta wait a little longer than usual.
07-23-2007, 12:46 PM
day 1- Chest, abs
day 2- Arms
day 3- back, shoulders, abs
day 4- legs
day 5- either take off or start over with Chest, abs
07-23-2007, 01:06 PM
OK, so I think I'm going to go for an HST training routine for about 8 weeks, in your guys personal opinion, would it be better to do and upper body and then a lower body day? Or do full body in different routines?
07-23-2007, 01:33 PM
07-23-2007, 03:15 PM
07-23-2007, 04:38 PM
I also think this depends on your age. I see young, 19-23 year old guys in the gym every single day training hard and they look solid.
At 35 however, there is no way I could do that kind of frequency without being on cycle permanently..which I'm not going to do.
When you get older, then you'll have to use different strategies to avoid overtraining...and keep in mind that overtraining is NOT a muscular condition, rather is when you deplete your neurotransmitters to the point where you start to get weaker, have a weaker GH response and it will even lower test levels in some cases.
07-23-2007, 05:58 PM
07-23-2007, 06:57 PM
ya but when i work tris i isolate them
when i do chest im not isolating my tris
i know what your getting at it tho
07-23-2007, 07:22 PM
07-23-2007, 10:59 PM
07-25-2007, 06:26 AM
You can totally get away with a *classic* 5 day split. It's classic for a reason.
Try to not be so finite with your advice and try something out before you knock it.
I'm curious as to what expertise you have in this field to be giving such adamant advice.
Jimmbow, you're fine with what you have outlined. Try new things and see how you react. It is individualized, but keep in mind the frequency/intensity/volume balance. If you raise frequency ( like Doggcrap training) then you lower volume and keep intensity high. Much like if you raise volume, you lower intensity or frequency to balance it out. Listen to your body, it will give you signs of overtraining. Might I suggest you pair Biceps with Triceps on their own day. I used to have a standard 5 day split like this, before I got more varied with my workouts.
Always try what works for you before listening to someone you don't really know well enough to verify their knowledge. That goes for my advice as well.
07-25-2007, 09:27 AM
07-25-2007, 01:36 PM
Have you guys every tried Mentzer's HIT routine? I can't say enough about how effective and efficient it is.
07-25-2007, 03:36 PM
07-25-2007, 05:06 PM
lazers9, I hear you, no fualt for you trying to be helpful.
sameer, I am not huge in my mind. But thank you for the compliment.
Again, different things work for different people. I mean, look at the guys in prison. Ridiculous frequency, and volume, but some are just monsters and diced up. Some people respond to strange stimuli.
07-25-2007, 05:17 PM
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