Bodybuiders in the magazines. On roids?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon75 View Post
    I wonder if these bodybuilders actually use any of these supplements they promote. I would imagine they just do the roids and a lot of protein at most.
    from interviews ive read, they mostly stick to the basics. protein creatine fishoil, glucosamine, etc. they take a $hit load of everything. you gotta see "cost of redemption" where they show ronnie sitting there for a half hour after breakfast watching tv and popping pills from one of those plastic 42 compartment suitcases


  2. Most of them are on year-round (Levrone was a true freak; he only trained for maybe half of the year) and taper their dosages. It's insane to see some of the actual dosages used by some pre-contest. They probably have at least 10cc's of oil in them along with a handful of orals, GH, slin, synthol, etc.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Most of them are on year-round (Levrone was a true freak; he only trained for maybe half of the year) and taper their dosages. It's insane to see some of the actual dosages used by some pre-contest. They probably have at least 10cc's of oil in them along with a handful of orals, GH, slin, synthol, etc.
    im not expert but that has got to decrease your life expectancy lol

  4. Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    im not expert but that has got to decrease your life expectancy lol
    At that level, it's hard to say it won't. However, on another level, you cannot say that they didn't follow a dream. Most people drift through life hating their job and aren't truly living. I think most people would take a fulfilling and rewarding 50-year life than a mundane and aimless 80-year life.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    At that level, it's hard to say it won't. However, on another level, you cannot say that they didn't follow a dream. Most people drift through life hating their job and aren't truly living. I think most people would take a fulfilling and rewarding 50-year life than a mundane and aimless 80-year life.
    I agree. However, there are many non-professionals who juice just the same.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    At that level, it's hard to say it won't. However, on another level, you cannot say that they didn't follow a dream. Most people drift through life hating their job and aren't truly living. I think most people would take a fulfilling and rewarding 50-year life than a mundane and aimless 80-year life.
    oh yea the journey is incredible, the highs of bodybuilding cant be compared to anything. i guess they achieve that ultimate alpha male feeling, pumping so much testosterone. i just cant imagine how it feels to wake up when you are older, joints and ligaments all f'ed up, pissin blood, who knows what other terrible things you gotta deal with then.

  7. It would seem like you would need to be on year round. Even if you go through a period of lower doses to keep the gains and be bigger then the next. Someone is always trying to out do you.

  8. lol imagine being 300lbs of muscle, you cant even run a flight of stairs without running out of gas. has anyone else seen "cost of redemption"?? hes in the car out of breath, cant dial the cellphone b/c fingers are too big, cant voice dial either because his voice is too high pitched hahahah

  9. I took Havoc for almost four weeks until my hip muscle gave out. And that's just a mild steroid. I couldn't imagine continuing all year round, year after year. Besides, the gains will be lost once you get off. I maintained most of my weight, but I did lose that "pumped" look after a few weeks.

  10. They our always pumped up. I wish the Muscle Tech did what it said.I bought the hype a few years back when I was new. I would be the biggest bodybuilder ever. Never happened.

  11. I clicked on this thread because I actually saw a question mark at the end of the thread title.

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I clicked on this thread because I actually saw a question mark at the end of the thread title.

    Just noticed that part of it.

  13. You have to specifically pic up a "natural bodybuilding" magazine to find guys who don't juice. Men's fitness is pretty much full of normal guys, men's health as well but muscle and fitness, flex, muscle mag all roids.

    What I always wonder is even if your lifting and pushing large amounts of weight the tendons, ligaments and all the soft tissue in the joints can only take so much. The body is designed to build mass at a certain rate so it prevents injury and the joint can support the gains. Sometimes on waxy maize and creatine I have very little lactic burn and I keep going and I stop only cause of the weight I feel in my joint. All these guys must have constant chronic pain and injuries. They must all be on oxy as well. There's no way they do it smart. They wanna be the best so they will take short cuts.
    ôLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68

  14. knew a guy who got addicted to oxy's because of the amount of pain he was in from lifting/. hes been out of the gym for YEARS no one knows where he went. so i wouldnt doubt some do that. he truly was a monster tho

  15. The craziest thing, is that there are no current published studies on the long term use of steriods and health issues, pro or con, at least thats what I saw on real sports, you can look it up on you tube...of course I don't know much about AAS, being as I don't use them

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon75 View Post
    I pick up an assortment of bodybuilding magazines from time to time, and I see they're full of huge guys promoting suppliments, diets, or work out routines. None of them ever promote steroids. But I look at these guys and say to myself, there's no way these guys are following only what they preach. I suppose some of these guys might be naturals, but I feel it's kinda false advertising when the others act as if they got big without the roids.

    Thoughts?

    Watch the documentary, "Bigger, Stronger, Faster"

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Flaw View Post
    You have to specifically pic up a "natural bodybuilding" magazine to find guys who don't juice. Men's fitness is pretty much full of normal guys, men's health as well but muscle and fitness, flex, muscle mag all roids.

    What I always wonder is even if your lifting and pushing large amounts of weight the tendons, ligaments and all the soft tissue in the joints can only take so much. The body is designed to build mass at a certain rate so it prevents injury and the joint can support the gains. Sometimes on waxy maize and creatine I have very little lactic burn and I keep going and I stop only cause of the weight I feel in my joint. All these guys must have constant chronic pain and injuries. They must all be on oxy as well. There's no way they do it smart. They wanna be the best so they will take short cuts.
    I'm sure even Men"s Fitness and Natural Body body builing mags have all run something in the recent past. If not, then they are extremely photoshopped!

  18. To each his own. Does it really matter what they do aslong as it doesnt harm you in some way? Everyone should have a say with what they do with their life in my opinion, so why would I care or should you. If we took your life and let everyone analyize it im sure we would find things we dont agree with dissaprove of but would it be fair to hinder you or your life when its not causing harm to anyone but yourself? Sure.....people & friends would offer advice ect....but it all comes down to a CHOICE which is always yours to make.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by need2grow View Post
    To each his own. Does it really matter what they do aslong as it doesnt harm you in some way?
    If it didn't harm anyone then maybe. Someone looks at them and thinks how do I get like that? Someone says take what they do. Then they go down the same route. The images are what causes a lot of guys to use in the first place. More so then just getting big. Same concept as women have as what skinny is. They pic up a magazine and look at a girl and say how do I get that skinny. "Here take this". Not a whole lot different. Also tell the people who are friends and family of the ones if it hasn't harmed them in some way. Have you thought of any of that?

    Take a look at some old school body building pictures before steriods came into the picture where all that was put in was hard work. Those were the days..
    ôLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68

  20. Quote Originally Posted by jayts22 View Post
    The craziest thing, is that there are no current published studies on the long term use of steriods and health issues, pro or con, at least thats what I saw on real sports, you can look it up on you tube...of course I don't know much about AAS, being as I don't use them
    That's because recreational use in most western countries is illegal and against the rules of most sports organization. Steroids are the dirty little secret that everyone knows about but won't discuss because it can land them in prison or torpedo their career.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by need2grow View Post
    To each his own. Does it really matter what they do aslong as it doesnt harm you in some way? Everyone should have a say with what they do with their life in my opinion, so why would I care or should you. If we took your life and let everyone analyize it im sure we would find things we dont agree with dissaprove of but would it be fair to hinder you or your life when its not causing harm to anyone but yourself? Sure.....people & friends would offer advice ect....but it all comes down to a CHOICE which is always yours to make.
    It does matter because the industry is telling lies of omissions. Putting pictures of juiced athletes in articles and advertising about diet, training, and supplements without disclosing their drug use is misleading to fans and consumers.

    I would argue that this does do harm. How many kids have been scammed out of their minimum wage earned cash to buy the latest BS supplement because it was associated with some pro bodybuilder only to find it made zero difference? How many people who finally realized what the secret to the pros success is and also decide to use steroids but because of the illegality have to buy on the black market and often without knowing what the risks are?

    You are right that if these athletes want to sacrifice their long term health for living the high life today then that should be their prerogative. However, until the industries are up front and honest about drug use, there will be negative impacts for those that support those industries.

  22. No, anyone who's under the age of 18 should have a parent or guardian looking after them and teaching them the diffrence between right and wrong. You cant blame the world for little dannys problems because you dont wanna spend the time teaching your own kid what is real and what not, right? Didnt your dad tell you there was no such things as monsters? lol now above 18 well fact of life is you live and learn and if the worst info the kids get is to eat right, workout, and dont drink or you cant achive this "status" then so be it. Its a lie none the less but atleast they learn and become healthy and more knowledgeable......beats smoking cigs, drinking and meth right or would you compare some of the skinny female celebs that use narc to become skinny or anarexic to the body builders who choose to juice and promote decent legal supps or would you rather them say kids need to juice up?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by need2grow View Post
    No
    No to what? I made several points there.

    Quote Originally Posted by need2grow View Post
    anyone who's under the age of 18 should have a parent or guardian looking after them and teaching them the diffrence between right and wrong. You cant blame the world for little dannys problems because you dont wanna spend the time teaching your own kid what is real and what not, right?
    Wow. Where do you live? Must be nice if everyone has perfect, all knowing, eternally available parents. As someone already mentioned, there is not a lot of readily available clinical information on steroid use. If potential users have a tough time of it, how are parents supposed to get the info? Regardless, if you can argue that we can't blame the world, I can just as easily argue that we can't blame parenting. It's a moot argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by need2grow View Post
    lol now above 18 well fact of life is you live and learn and if the worst info the kids get is to eat right, workout, and dont drink or you cant achive this "status" then so be it. Its a lie none the less but atleast they learn and become healthy and more knowledgeable......beats smoking cigs, drinking and meth right or would you compare some of the skinny female celebs that use narc to become skinny or anarexic to the body builders who choose to juice and promote decent legal supps or would you rather them say kids need to juice up?
    More knowledgeable about false information? Great. Healthy? Not if they then turn to steroids/pro-hormones.

    Your comparison to other substance abuse is irrelevant. It is like saying that it is better to be an alcoholic than a heroin addict. On an absolute scale then sure, but man you are just choosing a convenient context to justify your opinion.

    IMO people should be given the straight goods so that they can make an informed decision. If they want to look like a pro BB then they should know what is really required and what sacrifices they have to make.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon75 View Post
    I pick up an assortment of bodybuilding magazines from time to time, and I see they're full of huge guys promoting suppliments, diets, or work out routines. None of them ever promote steroids. But I look at these guys and say to myself, there's no way these guys are following only what they preach. I suppose some of these guys might be naturals, but I feel it's kinda false advertising when the others act as if they got big without the roids.

    Thoughts?
    hypocrisy money and the law stop theese mags from tellin it like it is i cant belive in this day and age people dont know you cant get 260lbs of pure muscle without a little help,
    even happens at the gym you have some guys who tell it like it is and spme bull**** they are "clean" yeah thats why you just put 20lbs of muscle on this month!!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    oh yea the journey is incredible, the highs of bodybuilding cant be compared to anything. i guess they achieve that ultimate alpha male feeling, pumping so much testosterone. i just cant imagine how it feels to wake up when you are older, joints and ligaments all f'ed up, pissin blood, who knows what other terrible things you gotta deal with then.
    Although he seems like he is in good health, except for dialysis, I believe Arnold would be a great person to ask.
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