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  1. been eating at 50g of carbs for the past 2 days, going into day 3 now. Only carbs are 2 rice cakes and 1 bowl of wheat bran. Rest is protein sources. And training 20-30 rep sets trying to kill all the glycogen.

    Feeling really ****ty and run down, been leaning on olive oil and peanuts to keep me going.

    Tomorrow I will begin the massive supercompensation loading, using IGF-1 LR3 and r-lipoic acid with each meal, and utilizing glucophage/metformin before bed to mimimize excess blood sugar in the blood stream. Taking in 300g thursday, and 400g friday.

    Water will be dropped from 2 gallons (m-t-w) to 1 gallon on thursday, and half gallon on friday, stopping at 5pm.

    Diuretics: dandilion root extract taken at morning on friday, another dose during the afternoon, another dose at 5pm, another dose before bed, and 1 more in the morning upon waking. And glass of wine before bed. Sleeping with overhead fan on high to dehydrate skin some more.

    Morning of: small crap meal like pancakes, eggs etc, pin igf-1lr3 before going on stage and drink some wine+glycerin and a little bit of water to fill out the muscles along with a few reecie cups for fats/sugars to fill out right after pumping up.


  2. I am a believer in the pancakes before a comp. High GI really fills up the muscles nicely.

    You are looking insane man.. I remember way back when you ran your first little cycle of havoc lol
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.
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  3. I believe the only way you are going to lose this comp is if you deliberately perform the wrong poses in the mandatory. I'm willing to bet you could trip and fall a few times and still win with ease, lol..

  4. How did it go?

  5. Post some contest pics bro
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  6. placed 2nd. No idea why. The guy that won beat me in my weight class and won the overall over the heavyweights. In all seriousness, this guy was about 10lbs less mass than me, 2 inches taller, and terrible posing. Symmetry/v-taper was non-existant, and his side chest was pathetic. However he had good seperations in hig legs, better than mine, but I totally disagree that they were enough to outweight all his other insufficienies.

    O well, bodybuilding is very subjective. I dont really care that much, because I did this show as a warm up.

    Next time, I'm going to start working on the legs to seperate earlier. My mistake was not doing enough high rep training on the legs. I also will not cut as much water.

    For now, the plan is to gain 20lbs of LBM by April 2012, and step on stage in August 2012 at 202lbs, dominate and go to nationals. It WILL happen.



    So far Ive begun my rebound cycle and am already up from 183 to 191 and super strong:

    Test-p - 1g/week
    mast-p -525mg/week

    No orals, lots of fish oil, 1 kilo chicken breat, 1lb of sirloin per day. Lots of coq10, niacin, b12, R-ala,, garlic, and all the other vitamins.

    Going to run this for a few months to let liver recover, and let the lipids recover a little, althought I realize a gram of test is pushing it on the lipids. Will throw in NPP at 350mg/wk soon, and in 10-12 weeks I'm going to blast some d-bol at 50mg/day

  7. Well, that's the way it goes sometimes.

    Sounds like you did good though.

  8. IT WILL HAPPEN.. I like that. Do you plan on cycling off? By rebound cycle do you mean putting some weight back on after the intense dieting?
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    placed 2nd. No idea why. The guy that won beat me in my weight class and won the overall over the heavyweights. In all seriousness, this guy was about 10lbs less mass than me, 2 inches taller, and terrible posing. Symmetry/v-taper was non-existant, and his side chest was pathetic. However he had good seperations in hig legs, better than mine, but I totally disagree that they were enough to outweight all his other insufficienies.

    O well, bodybuilding is very subjective. I dont really care that much, because I did this show as a warm up.

    Next time, I'm going to start working on the legs to seperate earlier. My mistake was not doing enough high rep training on the legs. I also will not cut as much water.

    For now, the plan is to gain 20lbs of LBM by April 2012, and step on stage in August 2012 at 202lbs, dominate and go to nationals. It WILL happen.



    So far Ive begun my rebound cycle and am already up from 183 to 191 and super strong:

    Test-p - 1g/week
    mast-p -525mg/week

    No orals, lots of fish oil, 1 kilo chicken breat, 1lb of sirloin per day. Lots of coq10, niacin, b12, R-ala,, garlic, and all the other vitamins.

    Going to run this for a few months to let liver recover, and let the lipids recover a little, althought I realize a gram of test is pushing it on the lipids. Will throw in NPP at 350mg/wk soon, and in 10-12 weeks I'm going to blast some d-bol at 50mg/day
    You got any pointers for avoiding painful prop soreness in the localized area? My freggin quads and shoulders are killing me over these prop injections. Although I will say that working the muscle out a few hours after the injection has helped some so far. Anyways, sorry to hear you only got 2nd, I just find it hard to believe at novice level you lost to anyone. It's probably rigged. There is a show in Tunica that is partially rigged so it's not uncommon. Gotta play the politics in some of those shows in order to win. Boo on that!

  10. Sorry you're disappointed about the placings bro... it happend to me twice this year. took 2nd in 1 event and 3rd in another(that one was worse)It's such a subjective sport and sometimes i think the judges just pic what they like. Did you by chance take a look at the score sheets? If it was a npc event you should be able to request them then u can at least see how each judge had ya..
    Good luck w/ the rebound stay hungry
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  11. avoiding pain, ha! lol!

    First of all, the best advice is just learn to live with the pain and embrace it...I walk funny year round now

    However, you can help the pain by cutting gear in the synringe with an additional 1cc of sterile grapeseed oil. This will lower the potency and increase the volume. The pain is caused by the gear crashing inside the muscle, after the oil dissaptes it leaves behind the powder because 100mg/ml is actually above the soluability limit of prop...i think the limit is 50mg/ml, which is why pharm grade is only made at this level. 2cc of 50mg/ml will be completely painless where as 1cc of 100mg will hurt first time use.

    Good luck

  12. well put, comes in handy when you have painful short esters.

    Are you coming off cycle tho??

  13. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    avoiding pain, ha! lol!

    First of all, the best advice is just learn to live with the pain and embrace it...I walk funny year round now

    However, you can help the pain by cutting gear in the synringe with an additional 1cc of sterile grapeseed oil. This will lower the potency and increase the volume. The pain is caused by the gear crashing inside the muscle, after the oil dissaptes it leaves behind the powder because 100mg/ml is actually above the soluability limit of prop...i think the limit is 50mg/ml, which is why pharm grade is only made at this level. 2cc of 50mg/ml will be completely painless where as 1cc of 100mg will hurt first time use.

    Good luck
    Well dang I've been limping around for nothing!

    I'm gonna buy a crap ton of that GS oil, lol!

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Size:  28.8 KBim never coming off. I'm on HRT. I will simply cycle through different drugs with adaquate times off to make sure cholestrol/liver/rbc/heart gets back into check.

    Im not too concerened about LDL/HDL for these next few months. Iv accepted that things are going to be skewed on the quest to the national level. However, I'm taking a long break from orals, probably 8-10 weeks, adding in a little flush free niacin, maybe some RYR, glucophage, and R-ala to help control cholestrol while i run 1g Prop/400mgNPP/350mgMasteron

    This will be my cruise for the next few months to help put some mass on. I dont see any androgenic issues. I was able to tolerate up to 1.4g of masteron with no hairloss or prostate issues etc..

    The prop keeps DHT and E2 under control because of the consistent delivery, NPP should provide joint support, collagen synthesis. And the masteron will keep libido and hardness in check.

    The only health sides I should be concerned with would be Blood Pressure, RBC, and Cholestrol. However I doubt that ill have problems with either of these. My BP has been consistent 115/70



    There are alot of people out there that are very concered with how long to cycle, and whats the healthiest choice. I would not recommend what I'm doing to most people, however If you are looking to reach a professional competitive standpoint, you are going to require a heavy amount of AAS. AAS is not going to kill you, its just a matter of being smart, and financing the Healthiest drugs.
    Most cannot afford to run masteron/prop/primo etc...so they would choose the standard Tren/DBOL/Test combo which in the long run is not going to be healthy on the liver/kidneys. I believe success at the national level is going to be derived from investing in drugs/supplements and a diet thats may be more expensive, but is much safer on the body.

  15. Damn box sorry to hear about 2nd... not bad for a first competition though. First one is more about experience than winning anyways.

    I agree about your quads not separating enough. Upper body was definitely in check.

  16. I hear you on the investing in the better alternatives. You either pay for it now or later.

    Lookin at those pics, I find it hard to believe you only came in second. But, if the judges have a hard on for someone, what are you gonna do?

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Size:  28.8 KBim never coming off. I'm on HRT. I will simply cycle through different drugs with adaquate times off to make sure cholestrol/liver/rbc/heart gets back into check.

    Im not too concerened about LDL/HDL for these next few months. Iv accepted that things are going to be skewed on the quest to the national level. However, I'm taking a long break from orals, probably 8-10 weeks, adding in a little flush free niacin, maybe some RYR, glucophage, and R-ala to help control cholestrol while i run 1g Prop/400mgNPP/350mgMasteron

    This will be my cruise for the next few months to help put some mass on. I dont see any androgenic issues. I was able to tolerate up to 1.4g of masteron with no hairloss or prostate issues etc..

    The prop keeps DHT and E2 under control because of the consistent delivery, NPP should provide joint support, collagen synthesis. And the masteron will keep libido and hardness in check.

    The only health sides I should be concerned with would be Blood Pressure, RBC, and Cholestrol. However I doubt that ill have problems with either of these. My BP has been consistent 115/70



    There are alot of people out there that are very concered with how long to cycle, and whats the healthiest choice. I would not recommend what I'm doing to most people, however If you are looking to reach a professional competitive standpoint, you are going to require a heavy amount of AAS. AAS is not going to kill you, its just a matter of being smart, and financing the Healthiest drugs.
    Most cannot afford to run masteron/prop/primo etc...so they would choose the standard Tren/DBOL/Test combo which in the long run is not going to be healthy on the liver/kidneys. I believe success at the national level is going to be derived from investing in drugs/supplements and a diet thats may be more expensive, but is much safer on the body.
    While I had planned to use Dbol, Test and Tren combo strictly for mass gaining, what do you think about Test Prop, EQ, and Mast for a hardening/cutting cycle? I can get EQ at a decent price and was considering using it for it's dry, hardening effects. Or is it best kept as a mass builder since it stimulates appetite? I don't favor the idea of running orals for a very long time unless it's something like Anavar. However Anavar is just ridiculously expensive although I could get a month's worth for about $175..so I figured EQ could be a substitute since I can get it cheap. Thoughts?

    Sry to drain your knowledge resources but I'm trying to learn especially since you are 3 steps ahead of me.

  18. how much hcg with all that fun stuff?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by gymrat827 View Post
    how much hcg with all that fun stuff?
    thats what I'm wondering too when running cycles 16+ weeks at a time

  20. hcg is used as needed, and generally only 500iu/wk is necessary.

    To answer the question above, eq, never used it. I liked var for cutting, but right now i'm in on test/mast only and i'm actually drier than i was before the show. Yes i may have some more fat on me from the rebound, but i'm seriously dry, very dry. I think var holds water, and next show i will totally drop all orals and run masteron/test-p into the show.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    hcg is used as needed, and generally only 500iu/wk is necessary.

    To answer the question above, eq, never used it. I liked var for cutting, but right now i'm in on test/mast only and i'm actually drier than i was before the show. Yes i may have some more fat on me from the rebound, but i'm seriously dry, very dry. I think var holds water, and next show i will totally drop all orals and run masteron/test-p into the show.
    No tren??

  22. never used tren or deca...i'm about to try on NPP (short acting deca)

  23. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    never used tren or deca...i'm about to try on NPP (short acting deca)
    I would like to give that stuff a go too. sounds fun.

  24. Looking sick man. You really think that you were holding water on var? That's real strange, you sure it was real?
    Cutting all summer, cycle in September

  25. hey how did you do? Lookin hooooge

  26. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox
    never used tren or deca...i'm about to try on NPP (short acting deca)
    I was told from a good buddy that alot of guy compair shot acting deca to tren???

  27. How about Winny? Isnt it supposed to be dry?

  28. positive its real var. I'm on dbol now at 60mg, its been 5 days and i'm still dryer than on var. I think the var just bloats me from some other affect, not estrogen.

  29. Great abs man

  30. Thanks a lot
  

  
 

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