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Old 11-13-2007, 09:36 PM   #1
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RPM + Drive + Leviathin Reloaded????

What do you guys think of stacking RPM + Drive + Leviathin Reloaded together??? Was looking for a good stack to help me lose a little weight while retaining as much muscle as possible. Just started a carb cycling diet today! Also, what do ya'll think of throwin in USP labs super cissus rx??? Thanks for the help!
 
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:51 PM   #2
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All three are really good products

RPM is very strong.. Leviathan Reloaded is also.. .

I dont see why you could not stack them... but i would run Leviathan on a lower dose

Super C is good but i would use Incarnate by PAL
 
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:32 PM   #3
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Ok guys here is what I think I finally decided to stack...what do ya think??? Overkill??? This is suppose to be a fat loss stack to help retain/maybe even add some muscle. Only wanting to lose around 5-10lbs so my carb cycling diet is not too hardcore and only doing about 2 cardio sessions a week!

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My creatine cocktail: creatine mono/HMB/L-Citrulline/Taurine, etc.
 
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What do you guys think of stacking RPM + Drive + Leviathin Reloaded together??? Was looking for a good stack to help me lose a little weight while retaining as much muscle as possible. Just started a carb cycling diet today! Also, what do ya'll think of throwin in USP labs super cissus rx??? Thanks for the help!
Tried RPM Drive and regular Levi- loved the stack!! Great for fat-burning- and try Osteo-C or IGF-2 for helping retain (or even gain) muscle on a cut...
 



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Old 11-15-2007, 01:10 PM   #5
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Should be great, i'd just suggest caution as far as dose timing, particularly in late afternoons/evenings as it may affect your sleep. Thats both the leviathan as well as RPM.
 




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Old 11-15-2007, 02:17 PM   #6
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I think you would like that stack..
 
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Thanks for all the help everyone! One more question though! So, should I add IGF-2 to the mix???? The stack would be getting pretty expensive with that but I could prob make the bottle last around 25-30days!
 
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IGF-2 would definitely help with the sleep. For the daytime doses, you'd need to make sure you don't have much carbs in the hour before taking it, or for 2 hours after. Would be very nice as an addition though.
 




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Old 11-16-2007, 09:43 AM   #9
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Ok guys...starting to get a lil confused on what to do! I have been reading such great reviews about AN that I almost want to drop the leviathin reloaded and do a drive/rpm/IGF-2/Neovar/Osteobolan-C stack...also how would Reset AD go with this stack as I feel that my adrenal function is down??? How would this stack be on a cut (carb cycle diet)???? Out of the following supplements which ones would be the best stacked together for cutting/while mainting/gaining muscle:
Drive
Rpm
Incarnate
Leviathin Reloaded
IGF-2
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Neovar
Osteobolin-C (I dunno if it would be wise or not to use becuase I really dont have too much joint pain...some in my lower back but nothin to excrutiating.....however, have heard that cissus has some weight loss properties????)

Thanks for all the help again!!!!!
 
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Leviathin Reloaded
IGF-2
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Neovar
Osteobolin-C
Ok, if you are going low carb or carb cycling the answer is different than just restricted calories cut.

For starters either way, it is a tossup between Osteobolin-C and Incarnate. Osteobolin-C adds vitamin C to cissus, Incarnate adds Beta Alanine to Cissus. BA is a great supplement for added strength and energy, vit c has its pluses as well. So up to you, just pick one of these.

On a low carb diet, Neovar won't work out all that well except at your carb ups. It is a nutrient partitioner, so you'd want to only take it before meals with at least 30g or more of carbs (some people need 50+ to feel good). So depending on your cycle of carbs, it might not make sense. If you were doing a TKD where you carb up pre/during each workout, it would still work well for that.

A nice flipside is that IGF-2 works particularly well with low carb dieting In that the GH release that it potentiates is normally disturbed by intake of carbs within the following 2 hours. So if you are taking in low carbs it makes dosing IGF-2 simpler.

So I think overall my gut feeling for a low carb would be

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Rpm (you may leave this out as you get some good stim from leviathan, depends on your workout time/dosing)
Incarnate
Leviathin Reloaded
IGF-2
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Reset-AD is the holy grail of supplements. I just wanted to say that, as I see so many others called the holy grail at the right about 50 cents a day when you can catch a sale, it will probably save you $2 a day worth of stims you won't need to take anymore. One less can of an energy drink a day.... So definitely get the reset ad if you have any questions about your stim tolerance.
 




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Old 11-16-2007, 01:31 PM   #11
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Thanks so much EasyEJL....your help is greatly appreciated. i After deciding on the stack I might need a little help with dosage/timing as well. If I get both the rpm with reload I though I would prob just do reload 1pill x 2 daily then rpm preworkout. One question about rpm? Did you notice a huge increase in vascularity while taking rpm? I was reading how the methyl xanthine anhydrous caffeine in rpm exerts a stong effect on vasodilation? I think that I am gonna wait to try neovar when bulking again, but thought about adding in some bulk banaba extract on my high carb days pre/post workout with my creatine mix...I also have some waxy maize to throw in pre/post workout on high carb days.
 
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Well, i'm still a fattie (around 20% bf) so I really don't have great vascularity no matter what. Soon enough I will down 3% in the last month, and continuing...

The banaba extract seems to be way better IMO than other nutrient repartitioners. It seems to be a bit more forgiving than others. I can eat the carbs sooner or later, and have less or more and not get negative effects from it. You can pm RMS80 and ask for a quote on Budget Ergogenics banaba, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the price of it alone.
 




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i have all 3 of those bottles here at my room. ive been tempted to take them all at once. i just finished up some reset ad so im kind of scared lol
 




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Ok thanks again to everyone for all of the help! I have finally decided to stack Drive/incarnate/leviathin reloaded/ and IGF-2 for my carb cycle fat loss stack. However, due to my upcoming school/work schedule I am not goin to have a whole lot of time for my diet/cardio. So what I have decided to do is a 4week lean bulk and as soon as school gets out Dec 17 start my cut. I plan on running RPM/IGF-2/Neovar for my lean bulk. Two questions??? Should I stay on this stake for only 4 weeks or would I see more benifits of running it longer??? Second, I weigh 185 as of now and approximate that my bodyfat is around 12%. Can someone help me with dosage/timing of Neovar/IGF-2/RPM! I am not going to be trying to follow any diet as of now, due to time constraints but will try to eat as clean as possible. Thanks
 
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