***FEEDBACK on The ONE***

[donorrell]

I am sh1t scared of man boobs.

It's the stuff of nightmares. You can have a phenomenal physique, but all they'll see is those damn swollen nipples...

Due to the inherent AI / anti-estrogen properties, it appears to work a lot like Proviron in the context of treating gyno...but from an anabolic point of view it's far stronger...hardly even comparable in that aspect. We seem to be hearing a lot of similar feedback on this. All good to me!

[1HP]

Hey man, unless Im totally misunderstanding you, are you saying "the One" Gets RID of man boobs?? But its a P/H?
If so, good news to me. The one is gonna be my first ever "cycle" and I am sh1t scared of man boobs.

You are understanding me correctly, I cannot imagine you developing man boobs ON cycle However there's always the POST cyle rebound risk I have no idea about how it's gonna turn out on this.

[crowpass]

You are understanding me correctly, I cannot imagine you developing man boobs ON cycle However there's always the POST cyle rebound risk I have no idea about how it's gonna turn out on this.

BINGO!

[nopeace]

Cool. What day are you on now? How many left?

about two weeks left. Starting to gain some.

[Young One]

WTF?!?! On day 6 I had gained 3lbs, but today, day 8 I lost the 3lbs.
Any idea what was the cause of this? Couldn't be water as I'm always shredded, perhaps glycogen? Damn I was so happy with my gains...

[EasyEJL]

A fair number of people have seen some swings back and forth. I saw as much as 4lb change day to day

[Young One]

A fair number of people have seen some swings back and forth. I saw as much as 4lb change day to day

Good to know I'm not the only one.
If I can at least get 15pounds out of this I'll be a happy dude.

[EasyEJL]

Good to know I'm not the only one.
If I can at least get 15pounds out of this I'll be a happy dude.

you should be able to. Seems like healthy fats lead to higher gains, so try to make sure you hit in the 80+g of fats, as healthy as you can. more is fine, but i'm noticing a few trends in mass gains vs fatloss.

[Rosie Chee]

ksujosh6: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?p=297548751

Starting weight - 171 lbs



Day 15 weight - 182 lbs


+11 lbs

[Dragon13]

Yeah, really sucked *ss, painfull puffy nips, lump under the right one, also more fatmass on right side, very ugly to see, especially the difference between left and right, started after 5 days PP 1T. ~6 weeks of toremifene/atd reduced puffyness and pain, but lump still there and puffyness returns at some parts of the day, especially late afternoon/evening. Switched to raloxifene/andactrim(topical DHT) for 2 weeks, allowed me to quit the ATD which didnt make me feel to good. So decided to try The One as a masteron/proviron alternative (both of which I cannot get at decent prices) and puffyness is gone 95%, lump has decreased significantly, fatmass difference between left and right pec almost not noticable anymore, still taking raloxifene alongside The One so dont know how it would do solo, but I'm very very happy I can tell you..

Very interesting, thanks.

[OzzY SluGGa]

You are understanding me correctly, I cannot imagine you developing man boobs ON cycle However there's always the POST cyle rebound risk I have no idea about how it's gonna turn out on this.

yeah, but for how long after do you need to worry bout it? weeks/months? how do you know when your "out of the woods" boys?
If I finish my 4 week PCT and they are not there am I in the clear?

[EasyEJL]

basically yes. but no guarantee. Remember that scare stories about gyno are a lot more common than gyno.

[Dragon13]

Guejsn,

Can you change your avatar to the one you have on PHF?

Thanks in advance,

-Dragon

[OzzY SluGGa]

basically yes. but no guarantee. Remember that scare stories about gyno are a lot more common than gyno.

Well I hope so easy! Id rather have no build at all than a great build with man boobs.

[EasyEJL]

Well I hope so easy! Id rather have no build at all than a great build with man boobs.

Yeah, no doubt. Theres a really good post by mulletsoldier about gyno somewhere or another. Too many guys find a nipple itch or some chest fat and are screaming "gyno". But it is always a risk. I think most of the guys who get it had a little gyno in puberty and just never noticed it, and the hormonal fluctuations of a cycle cause it to bloom

[OzzY SluGGa]

Yeah, no doubt. Theres a really good post by mulletsoldier about gyno somewhere or another. Too many guys find a nipple itch or some chest fat and are screaming "gyno". But it is always a risk. I think most of the guys who get it had a little gyno in puberty and just never noticed it, and the hormonal fluctuations of a cycle cause it to bloom

Should I expect SOME nipple itch, soreness etc Easy? When do I actually need to hit the panic switch?

[EasyEJL]

its so individual its hard to say, as I think a lot is based around your normal levels of test/estrogen. i'd guess that itchiness that just lasts for a day or two is likely to not be a big deal, pain would likely be a big deal but then remember not to be constantly playing with them out of paranoia, or you'll have them hurting Also try and be aware of other changes if any like a new laundry detergent or using a different suntan lotion. Either of those can spike some itchiness too

[Thanos]

No log. I wish I was as happy as you. What are your stats? Are you using it for cutting or bulking?

No log. Started at 226 up to 234 and have become much leaner. I wish i would have done a Bod Pod or something for the real numbers. Freeking all veiny too which is always fun. The more calories i put to this the better it keeps getting. I had a few low cal days where the scale weight held the same but i kept looking fuller.

[Thanos]

I think theres a dietary relationship, but i'm still working it out

Agree!

[Thanos]

2 weeks on the one here.

Up 8 lbs.

I did 1 week at maintenance cals and no weight gain, lost a little fat, vascularity, energy and workout intensity up.
Did another week at 1000-1500 cals above maintenance and gained 8 lbs.

Had I stayed at maintenance cals I wouldve called it a weak ph

Edit: It's eradicating my PP 1T induced gyno!! (stacking it with ralox though).

Calories seem to be key, they were for me. As my weight went up I didnt adjust the calories and scale weight gains slowed, added calories and boom. The additional calories had no ill effects still kept getting harder looking.