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  1. Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    i just may try that..


    nice workout bro..and yeah about trying that water im having second thoughts having heard about the joint issues..haha i got enough of those probs.

    so taking glycobol at night had you wakin up in the miiddle of the night hungry?
    No but I have felt much better upon awakening, less fatigue and body distress. Just an additional element to being refreshed after a nights rest. Im waking up mid sleep because my metabolism is too fast. I get too hungry and wake up.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka


  2. Completely unrelated...BUT...you should contribute to my fishing thread


    It died off this summer and could use some help, lol:
    Everything Fishing - Come On In!!!
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Completely unrelated...BUT...you should contribute to my fishing thread


    It died off this summer and could use some help, lol:
    Everything Fishing - Come On In!!!
    Haha gladly.

    Big leg day today. Getting to work tomorrow is gonna be rough.

    Leg extensions (holding peak): 62.5x10x4
    Single Leg Press: 90x10x4 - Alternating non-stop
    Forward facing Icarius squat - 180x10x4
    This felt amazing, hit all of my legs and damn good work on thickness in the quads and stressing the glutes
    Lying Leg Curl: 60x20x4
    I can feel every space and fiber pulling, feels great for mind-to-muscle
    Seated Leg Curl: 60x20x3
    Getting to a point where I feel my blood sugar is low, didnt have any carbs aside form the morning then went to a big leg day... duh
    Lunges - Grab the 40 BB and walk a few laps from curb to curb outside the gym. Im amused when cars drive by and shout to me.
    DB Dead Lifts: 40'sx10x3
    Seated Calve Raises: 180 on deck, three different footings, 10 reps each over three overall sets...so 30 reps per set...90 total
    Short Abdominal Circuit

    Goin one more day on distilled water. Started taking Axis Labs Xtract and 2 cups of Cranberry Tea. You would think cranberry tea tastes good, oh how I was decieved.

    About to drop 2 glycobol and throw back 2 scoops of recoverPro. I like the BCAA idea before bed. Its worked for me these last couple days. I dont think I could make the commute tomorrow if I dont! lol
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  4. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Forward facing Icarius squat - 180x10x4
    What are these?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    About to drop 2 glycobol and throw back 2 scoops of recoverPro. I like the BCAA idea before bed. Its worked for me these last couple days. I dont think I could make the commute tomorrow if I dont! lol
    The formulator of glycobol, Dr. D had given me this idea to take glycobol before bed along with some BCAAs to boost GH and also helps drop a few pounds. I believe I still have our convos in my PM box somewhere along with the supporting theory behind it. Let me see if I can dig it up...

    I think pretty much the basis of it was deep sleep increases GH release, and low blood sugar compounds that release even more. The stack was 1-2 glycobols, 1 scoop of BCAA or EAA, and some mucuna or arginine. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia = pre bed pimp stack
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    What are these?



    The formulator of glycobol, Dr. D had given me this idea to take glycobol before bed along with some BCAAs to boost GH and also helps drop a few pounds. I believe I still have our convos in my PM box somewhere along with the supporting theory behind it. Let me see if I can dig it up...

    I think pretty much the basis of it was deep sleep increases GH release, and low blood sugar compounds that release even more. The stack was 1-2 glycobols, 1 scoop of BCAA or EAA, and some mucuna or arginine. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia = pre bed pimp stack
    Ah sounds interesting. Get that GH boost!
    RecoverBro ELITE
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    What are these?



    The formulator of glycobol, Dr. D had given me this idea to take glycobol before bed along with some BCAAs to boost GH and also helps drop a few pounds. I believe I still have our convos in my PM box somewhere along with the supporting theory behind it. Let me see if I can dig it up...

    I think pretty much the basis of it was deep sleep increases GH release, and low blood sugar compounds that release even more. The stack was 1-2 glycobols, 1 scoop of BCAA or EAA, and some mucuna or arginine. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia = pre bed pimp stack
    That sounds really tempting and awesome DOUBLE WHAMMY!
    I hope everybody thinks i'm crazy, because you cannot be a sane person and go through the type of pain i am willing to put myself through to be where i want to be, Once I completely win the war between my mind and body, my reign will begin. ~Me

  7. NICE!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    My wife asked me this morning if I remembered to take my Glycobol. I looked over and saw that indeed I had forgotten and fell asleep last night before taking my bed-time vitamins. It improves my sleep that well, that it was readily apparent to her that I hadn't taken it!

    Deep sleep increases GH release, and low blood sugar compounds that release even more. After years of supps and training, I can discern increased somatotropin biosynthesis by a distinct leaning effect. You develop a certain look of lean striation. I see lots of guys here use synthetic GH for bulking, but it seems more appropriate for leaning and 'anti-aging' effects IME. There are many ways to boost GH naturally. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia is a consistent, cheap and simple way to do this.

    - Stop eating carbs at least 2hrs before bed
    - Take 1-2 gbols
    - Take a scoop of EAA or BCAA or protein powder, or some Mucuna (l-dopa), or an arginine based stack, or whatever you normally use to promote GH levels.


    It's that simple. You'll start noticing what I mean pretty quickly. You lose fat, your cheeks might start to look leaner, your skin might feel a bit different, your arms/shoulders show more detailed striation, you 'feel' better in general, your wounds heal faster (but leave a little more scar tissue than normal), stuff like that. After a few weeks, it's easy for most people to observe these effects if their natural GH boosting has been successful.
    I use HGHpro, Glycobol, and RecoverPRO to fit this scheme. Obviously you have many choices, some of which will be pretty cheap alternatives.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  9. Im doin HGHUp with it now. I forgot I had some. Awesome night time combo
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  10. Stay tuned everyone... Peak week is approaching. So that means carb loads and pictures to follow
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  11. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow
    Stay tuned everyone... Peak week is approaching. So that means carb loads and pictures to follow
    Good luck man!!

    Keep hitting the gym hard!!
    RecoverBro ELITE

  12. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Stay tuned everyone... Peak week is approaching. So that means carb loads and pictures to follow
    Carb loads aww yeahh

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bulkypinoy61 View Post
    Carb loads aww yeahh
    Pic's will be epic, vascularity much? haha
    I hope everybody thinks i'm crazy, because you cannot be a sane person and go through the type of pain i am willing to put myself through to be where i want to be, Once I completely win the war between my mind and body, my reign will begin. ~Me

  14. Quote Originally Posted by thetinyguy View Post
    Pic's will be epic, vascularity much? haha
    Shoulder like spider webs

    This week has been all circuit training with low/mid weight and about 20 reps. Only upper body. I've been lifting late so I pretty much lift, throw back some Glycobol and BCAA's then head home for a late dinner.

    One other thing I noticed recently - Glycobol in the morning with breakfast seems to have an effect on intensifying things like drinking coffee. Having a cup of coffee will make your body temperature go up and feel kinda warm, but this is a pretty significant response! I like that... except for the fact Im perspiring on a subway. lol
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  15. This is what im craving and I cant have any... bleh

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    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
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  16. Those look really good

  17. That actually looks disgusting to me, lol.

    I did eat some doughnuts this week though. I can't remember the last time I ate a doughnut
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  18. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    That actually looks disgusting to me, lol.

    I did eat some doughnuts this week though. I can't remember the last time I ate a doughnut
    Im gluten intolerant lol. That much flour would kill me. After being gluten intolerant, cakes, sweets, pastas, pizza... All dont even trigger the "omg that looks delicious" signals... more like... mmm... Where is the steak?
    RecoverBro ELITE

  19. In to follow
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow
    This is what im craving and I cant have any... bleh

    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44 456"/>
    I was never a huge fan of sweets or pastries..but when you make a point not to eat stuff like that, it seems like the cravings come outta nowhere and strong..lol it sucks

    Isn't this wjhere the glycobol comes into play?
    Cultivating Mass.

  21. Ive been really good on my cravings lately! Im not drooling over pasta like I thought I would be. Not saying they aren't there - IM still walkiing down 1st Ave saying "And im gonna eat there, and there, and there..." things like this.
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    Thats all I want. Wings and a Sam Adams Octoberfest... its football season!!!

    Im not carb craver, i like creamy/buttery stuff. So where has glycobol played into things lately? Well my diet these last few days is strictly flounder and spinach. I wont be doing a huge carb load this show so Im utilizing it in 2 places:
    1) 1/4c oatmeal Saturday morning
    2) "Cheat" meal before prejudging

    All week, while training, I would take it right after my workout with BCAAs then hit a late dinner before bed. Did wonders for keeping me alive the next day. I have a sample pack of 3Z for tonight as I usually have difficulty sleeping the night before. I had 3 coats of Protan done yesterday, gonna do 2 more tonight.

    On a side note: one negative effect Im suspecting of Glycobol is my digestive track. Sems like when i bumped up to 2 doses/day I started getting a bit more gassy and man, its potent. Bowel movements have been looser than usual... at times its uncomfortable. I wanted to pin it to diet but it hasnt changed in weeks. Anyone else ever notice this? Im not bloated, but i feel my gut movin a lot.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  22. How is your dosing schedule of the product?
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  23. 2 in the morning 1/2hr before breakfast with carbs. 2 in the evening about 1/2hr before bed with 2 scoops BCAA's upon lying down
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow
    2 in the morning 1/2hr before breakfast with carbs. 2 in the evening about 1/2hr before bed with 2 scoops BCAA's upon lying down
    Maybe I can gain some knowledge. Just curious as to what the glyco does with the amino acids at night?

    Correct me if I'm wrong thought it helps use your carbs for energy instead of fat and to help nutrients to the muscle. Just trying to learn.

    Also I wonder how this interacts with simple/fast carbs?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Maybe I can gain some knowledge. Just curious as to what the glyco does with the amino acids at night?

    Correct me if I'm wrong thought it helps use your carbs for energy instead of fat and to help nutrients to the muscle. Just trying to learn.

    Also I wonder how this interacts with simple/fast carbs?
    helps boost GH levels.
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    "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates

  26. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh

    helps boost GH levels.
    And with out BCAA?
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    And with out BCAA?
    Eh.. the idea of taking Glycobol for a sleep aid without some kind of BCAA/meal wouldnt serve much purpose. The whole idea was to get my muscle tissue further ramped up for a refeed such and a meal or quick hit of BCAA's from a late workout to fuel overnight recovery.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  28. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow
    Eh.. the idea of taking Glycobol for a sleep aid without some kind of BCAA/meal wouldnt serve much purpose. The whole idea was to get my muscle tissue further ramped up for a refeed such and a meal or quick hit of BCAA's from a late workout to fuel overnight recovery.
    Yeah bad question on my part as it is a nutrient partioniner. I was just trying to see of the benefit w/o food I was thinking what's ONLY BCAA going to do.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    And with out BCAA?
    I dont see why not but the addittion of the aminos makes for a much better recovery protocol IMO, but soley on he GH boosting aspect, it will prolly work without the aminos

    Evidence for an Inhibitory Effect of Physiological Levels of Insulin on the Growth Hormone (GH) Response to GH-Releasing Hormone in Healthy Subjects
    R. Lanzi, M. F. Manzoni, A. C. Andreotti, M. E. Malighetti, E. Bianchi, L. Piceni Sereni, A. Caumo, L. Luzi and A. E. Pontiroli

    Istituto Scientifico San Raffaele, Cattedra di Medicina Interna (R.L., M.F.M., A.C.A., M.E.M., E.B., L.P.S., L.L., A.E.P.); Unità di Bioingegneria (A.C.), Università degli Studi di Milano, 20132 Milan, Italy

    Address all correspondence and requests for reprints to: Roberto Lanzi, M.D., Istituto Scientifico San Raffaele, Via Olgettina 60, 20132 Milano, Italy.


    Abstract

    It has been previously reported that in healthy subjects, the acute reduction of free fatty acids (FFA) levels by acipimox enhances the GH response to GHRH. In the present study, the GH response to GHRH was evaluated during acute blockade of lipolysis obtained either by acipimox or by insulin at different infusion rates. Six healthy subjects (four men and two women, 25.8 ± 1.9 yrs old, mean ± SE) underwent three GHRH tests (50 µg iv, at 1300 h) during: 1) iv 0.9% NaCl infusion (1200–1500 h) after oral acipimox administration (250 mg) at 0700 h and at 1100 h; 2) 0.1 mU·kg-1·min-1 euglycemic insulin clamp (1200–1500 h) after oral acipimox administration (250 mg at 0700 h and at 1100 h); 3) 0.4 mU·kg-1·min-1 euglycemic insulin clamp (1200–1500 h) after oral placebo administration (at 0700 and 1100 h).

    Serum insulin (immunoreactive insulin) levels were significantly different in the three tests (12 ± 2, 100 ± 10, 194 ± 19 pmol/L, P < 0.05), plasma FFA were low and similar (0.04 ± 0.003, 0.02 ± 0.005, 0.02 ± 0.003, not significant), and the GH response to GHRH was progressively lower (4871 ± 1286, 2414 ± 626, 1076 ± 207 µg/L·120 min), although only test 3 was significantly different from test 1 (P < 0.05). Pooling the three tests together, a significant negative regression was observed between mean serum immunoreactive insulin levels and the GH response to GHRH (r = -0.629, P < 0.01).

    Our results indicate that in healthy subjects, acipimox and hyperinsulinemia produce a similar decrease in FFA levels and that at similar low FFA, the GH response to GHRH is lower during insulin infusion than after acipimox. These data suggest that insulin exerts a negative effect on GH release. Because the insulin levels able to reduce the GH response to GHRH are commonly observed during the day, for instance during the postprandial period, we conclude that the insulin negative effect on GH release may have physiological relevance
    It seems that insulin induced hypoglycemia helps to elevate Growth Hormone BUT at the same time insulin itself can suppresses GH. Growth Hormone is released from the pituitary in response to the GHRH (Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone) signal from the hypothalamus and insulin prevents this. On the other hand that GH released in response to low blood sugar is not controlled by GHRH, but by something else. (leptin, Ghrelin, or galanin) So while insulin does suppress Growth Hormone release (GHRH), hypoglycemia will stimulate a Ghrelin induced GH release. So when low blood sugar is induced by something other than insulin, in this case the NaR-ala in Glycobol I would suspect, it would give an even bigger spike than with insulin because there is no inhibitory effect.

    But again per Dr. D he had recomeneded the combo of Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia. Will it work without the aminos? Maybe.. you can prolly even get by with a scoop of whey or some casein instead of straight BCAAs even.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I dont see why not but the addittion of the aminos makes for a much better recovery protocol IMO, but soley on he GH boosting aspect, it will prolly work without the aminos



    It seems that insulin induced hypoglycemia helps to elevate Growth Hormone BUT at the same time insulin itself can suppresses GH. Growth Hormone is released from the pituitary in response to the GHRH (Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone) signal from the hypothalamus and insulin prevents this. On the other hand that GH released in response to low blood sugar is not controlled by GHRH, but by something else. (leptin, Ghrelin, or galanin) So while insulin does suppress Growth Hormone release (GHRH), hypoglycemia will stimulate a Ghrelin induced GH release. So when low blood sugar is induced by something other than insulin, in this case the NaR-ala in Glycobol I would suspect, it would give an even bigger spike than with insulin because there is no inhibitory effect.

    But again per Dr. D he had recomeneded the combo of Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia. Will it work without the aminos? Maybe.. you can prolly even get by with a scoop of whey or some casein instead of straight BCAAs even.
    The whey protein wouldn't spike insulin though? Or are SOME aminos needed for the enhanced GH response?
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