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    4-AD UTT™


    New AMS 4-AD UTT™


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    As we continue to develop and launch the best workout supplements possible, we are now offering 4-AD in our new Liquid UTT™ formula found in Liquidrone UTT™. The UTT™ (under the tongue) delivery system offers a more efficient dose of the active compound and elevates blood plasma levels faster than the previous products.

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    • Ultra efficient UTT™ delivery system
    • Completely avoid liver first pass
    • Reach blood plasma levels sooner
    • Utilize alternate bio-pathway for maximum multi-supplement stacking
    • Liquid prohormones have an advantage over their encapsulated cousins due to their unique under-the-tongue (UTT™) delivery system - brought to you by Advanced Muscle Science.


    4-AD UTT™ (4-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one suspension), AMS' first liquid testosterone precursor, contains 40 mg per 1 ml of 4-AD dissolved into a unique oral delivery called a nanocarrier. The specific nanocarrier used for 4-AD is known as a Liposome. Liposomes are such a unique delivery system because they encapsulate the active molecular compound in a way that prolongs residence in the bloodstream, enhances intracellular penetration and preserves the active molecule until it reaches its desired location in the body.

    Just like similar molecules, 4-AD has a half life. When taken in pill form, you rely on the body to break the pill down then the molecule, resulting in wasted time and causing excess stress on the liver and other organs (4-AD UTT™ avoids the first pass through the liver entirely). This often results in only 15% of the molecule being delivered in the first hour. So for you to achieve sufficient blood levels of the molecule in pill form you must take 200 mg (30 mg the first hour) 2 times a day. However, 4-AD UTT™ is fully dissolved in the Liposomal liquid solution, the full dose of 40 mg can be delivered in 1 hour (as compared to 30 mg with pills), reaching blood plasma levels sooner.

    4-AD UTT™ converts at a high rate to testosterone. The liquid oral delivery system will give you better size and strength increases than the old testosterone precursors.

    • Avoid first pass through the liver - maximizing the anabolic efficiency
    • Reach desired anabolic blood plasma levels faster with five times the efficiency
    • Anabolic Liposomal liquid solution spikes blood plasma levels faster and five times as efficient as standard oral capsules and tablets.
    • 4-AD UTT™ is the perfect anabolic to stack with 1-Androsterone UTT™, Decavol, and Arom-X UTT™ or on its own for lean bulk results.


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    how many doses come in one bottle and how much will it be on nutra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    how many doses come in one bottle and how much will it be on nutra?
    Depends on how high you want to dose it. There are 60mL per bottle and 40mg/mL. I believe the suggested dosage will be around 2mL per day...but I'm sure that many will run it at higher dosages.

    I don't know what the price will be on nutraplanet, as it is really up to them not AMS. The SRP is $63.95, but is on sale at the AMS site now for $50.95. I would guess that retailers will have it listed somewhere around the price of liquidrone. But that's just a guess.
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    Is there an low dose AI like the pills?? Think they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftingstud View Post
    Is there an low dose AI like the pills?? Think they did.
    Are u talking about the liquid Arom-x?
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    what is the flavoring?
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    So how much test would 1 mill actually convert to in the body? if you went with 2ml ED how much test injections would this be equivalent to?
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    Not sure what the UTT system delivers, but the pills yielded about 15-20% conversion rate, and this is supposed to be significantly higher % yield. Will have to see if one of us can get a more specific answer to your question.
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    Any clue on how many mg/ml there are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buquicchioc09 View Post
    Any clue on how many mg/ml there are?
    4AD UTT has 40mg of 4-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one per ml
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    how much of that is absorb compared to the pills
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random181 View Post
    So how much test would 1 mill actually convert to in the body? if you went with 2ml ED how much test injections would this be equivalent to?
    Honestly, you're not going to get a perfect answer to this question. You see, there's a lot more that goes into the equation than just xx amount of prohormone = xx amount of target hormone systemically.

    See, a big problem with this is the fact that the reactions are not one way. For example, once 1-andro comes in contact with 17-beta-HSD you have conversion to 1-dione...then it converts further to 1-testosterone. The trick is that it may convert to 1-test, but then back to 1-dione, and so forth. The chemical reaction has to reach an equilibrium (with the above mentioned compounds and other minor metabolites). This really confounds the issue.

    You see, on paper if you take the 10-15% oral bioavailablity (which is low end) of even the old 4-diol and took it orally at 1,000mg daily (which was a common dose) then according to the numbers this should equal around 700mg-1,050mg of testosterone weekly (not even accounting for ester weight).

    If you've taken the old 4-diol, you know that taking 1g daily was nowhere near the physiological effects of taking 700-1000mg of test per week.

    So where does this leave us? Well, we all know that the old 4-diol (old 4AD) was still a very effective prohormone to testosterone. It was particularly useful as a base of a stack...commonly with 1-testosterone (or 1AD). While the results weren't as drastic as a gram of test per week, it still produced a very nice anabolic effect, maintained libido, improved mood, etc. When stacked with 1-testosterone, it was one of the most potent pre-ban combinations....a combination that many still long for today.

    So anyways, to answer your question...I can't tell you exactly how many mg of 4AD UTT will be equal to xx amount of testosterone injection. I can tell you that the suggested dosage is very effective, and a more fair comparison would be to compare to the old 4-diol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buquicchioc09 View Post
    how much of that is absorb compared to the pills
    Bioavailablity of sublingual liposomal hormones will be much higher than that of oral (capsule products) and higher than transdermal application...due to the rich sublingual vascular/lymph supply and relatively thin epithelium.

    The exact number will rely on the user. The length of time held under the tongue, etc.
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    Here is a post from another board. This may help to answer some questions over here. This one was in regards to whether sublingual delivery would be an effective option for these hormones, the level of converting enzyme (17b-HSD) at specific tissues, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by quigs View Post
    Not so much the masticatory mucosa, but more the lining mucosa (ventral tongue and floor of mouth). At what levels, I do not have a specific number, but I do know that it is a sufficient level to have enough conversion to be biologically active. You can test this yourself by putting the 1-androsterone (or 1-dione/diol) under the tongue. At first you will not feel anything, but after 30 seconds to a minute you will feel a burning sensation. This is due to the fact that 1-testosterone is irritating to the mucosa...while 1-andro, 1-dione/diol are not.

    Additionally, not all conversion needs to happen sublingually. 17-HSD is abundant in many tissues, including skeletal muscle. This is where we want most conversion to 1-test to take place.

    So what I'm saying is that its not really critical whether a significant amount is actually converted sublingually...the issue is whether it is absorbed efficiently to achieve a biological effect. The fact that sublingual administration (like transdermal) will avoid the hepatic first pass means that much less of the absorbed compound will be metabolically deactivated by the liver...meaning more is available where we want it.

    This ties into your last question. The numbers that you are using 300-500mg orally is a good figure. That said, a significant portion of this never actually makes it to the target tissues...so the actual biological dosage is much lower. This is mainly due to the first pass hepatic metabolism (which both transdermal and sublingual administration aim to bypass). You see, oral absorption of most of these steroidal hormones is pretty good...where the problem stems is the fact that even though you're getting it through the GI its being degraded in the liver before reaching the target tissue.

    I'm sure that you'll agree that a good transdermal dose of 1-test is much lower than an oral dose. This is not because its "absorbed" better (its actually absorbed better in the GI). Its actually because you're avoiding first pass and allowing a larger total percentage of the compound to reach the target tissue where it can be biologically active. The amount absorbed sublingually should be significantly higher than the amount absorbed transdermally due to the relatively thin layer of epithelium and rich sublingual blood vessel and lymphatic supply.

    The sublingual approach is kinda cool in that it couples a high absorption rate with the ability to avoid hepatic first pass degradation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedup View Post
    what is the flavoring?
    1-androsterone is mint flavored. All the rest are cinnamon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quigs View Post
    1-androsterone is mint flavored. All the rest are cinnamon.
    Great posts man!
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    So basically doesn't 40MG of UTT equal 200MG per pill? So we are getting the same amount observed per serving. So wouldn't 1 pottle of pills be just as effective as 1 bottle of UTT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBCD View Post
    So basically doesn't 40MG of UTT equal 200MG per pill? So we are getting the same amount observed per serving. So wouldn't 1 pottle of pills be just as effective as 1 bottle of UTT?
    The entire reasoning behind the subli method is to get the product to your blood stream faster to allow for more efficient use of said chemical. The UTT (under the tongue) delivery system offers a more efficient dose of the active compound and elevates blood plasma levels faster than the previous products. Here are a few added benefits of this delivery system:

    *100% bioavailability makes them far superior to the 15% conversion of
    encapsulated prohormones based on the 1,4 andro studies.

    *Ultra efficient UTT delivery system

    *Completely avoid liver first pass

    *Reach blood plasma levels sooner

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    I need to try this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    I need to try this!
    Yes you do my friend...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHNJESSICA20 View Post
    Yes you do my friend...lol

    If you had love for our pill form your really gonna trip on this..Great product
    Sounds awesome!
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    does it convert first to 4-androstenedione or 4-androstenediol??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haltera View Post
    does it convert first to 4-androstenedione or 4-androstenediol??
    It's been said it can convert either way (dione or diol). However you have to keep in mind these can convert back and forth continuously depending on the intracrinology involved.
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    what is avg weight gain with a cycle of 1 bottle under recommended dosages?
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    Hard to say tex with all the variables involved and I'm unsure I've seen anyone run it solo thus far.
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    I am using it with the expectation it will keep my libido up while on 1AD. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in seeing significant results from the recommended dosage. I would double or triple it if I was running it solo. F* an AI while doing it too.

    Before anyone says it would be expensive look at the price and hassle of steroids. I think the costs are comparable when all is figured together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Hard to say tex with all the variables involved and I'm unsure I've seen anyone run it solo thus far.
    ah, a solo run would be cool to follow... even if it was a Company rep, just to get and idea of what dosage people like to use solo with this stuff. To me it seems a plus for a PH user not looking to interfere much with their organs, have trouble recovering, or take loads of cycle support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lozgod View Post
    I am using it with the expectation it will keep my libido up while on 1AD. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in seeing significant results from the recommended dosage. I would double or triple it if I was running it solo. F* an AI while doing it too.

    Before anyone says it would be expensive look at the price and hassle of steroids. I think the costs are comparable when all is figured together.
    I tend to agree with you here however I believe you could run it much longer then your typical OTC and achieve some pretty decent and lasting results. I'm referring to cycles of 10 or 12 weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    ah, a solo run would be cool to follow... even if it was a Company rep, just to get and idea of what dosage people like to use solo with this stuff. To me it seems a plus for a PH user not looking to interfere much with their organs, have trouble recovering, or take loads of cycle support.
    Yeah I'll keep an eye for ya if any logs pop up on this or any other board. We did have one guy run it solo for a few weeks then add in methadrol (SD Clone).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    I tend to agree with you here however I believe you could run it much longer then your typical OTC and achieve some pretty decent and lasting results. I'm referring to cycles of 10 or 12 weeks.



    Yeah I'll keep an eye for ya if any logs pop up on this or any other board. We did have one guy run it solo for a few weeks then add in methadrol (SD Clone).
    I would appreciate that Royd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    I tend to agree with you here however I believe you could run it much longer then your typical OTC and achieve some pretty decent and lasting results. I'm referring to cycles of 10 or 12 weeks.
    Yeah, I won't touch the methylated stuff. I love my heart too much. 10-12 weeks would be awesome, but would have to be treated like a test cycle as far as using HCG during and SERMS for PCT.
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    I'd agree to a point. I've ran much longer aas cycles without HCG however and seemed to recover fine. I wouldnt be afraid to run 4-AD without HCG.
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    Egh its out of stock at nutraplanet. Bug those NP guys.
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    I emailed NP and they will have it restocked by end of week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    . I wouldnt be afraid to run 4-AD without HCG.
    Nope, not at all.
    I ran the original 4ad all by itself at high doses and loved it.
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    Did a 5 week cycle of the new UTT 1Andro, 4-AD, and am in the middle of 4 weeks of Arom-X - all at recommended dosages, 2ml per day. Did not have any side effects, front effects, no effects whatsoever. I would have had more hormone fluctuations from taking a birth control pill. I am a hardcore lifter, eat like a bodybuilder, plenty of rest, I did everything right. Nothing.
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    What do you mean by "nothing" it didn't work for you ?
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    Waste of over $100. It did not do anything for me, not even 1lb of lean mass. Now perhaps it is just me, like maybe I should have taken twice or triple the recommended dosage, but then in that case, for the money spent, you might as well spend your money on the salsa (real steroids -if you can find legit stuff). Hey, I experimented, now I'm going back to the all natural weightlifting way of life - heavy squats, compound exercises, eating fats, having sex, taking my zinc, all the prerequisites to natural testosterone flow.
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    I wonder if other people had a similar experience like you ?
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    everyone is different, like yourself, I have to go on the higher range of things to notice just about anything working. After the first week you should have bumped up the doses and see where that would have taken you. On 3ml per day I notice some great results.
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