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  1. also would the supression of E due to the epistane, would this somehow negate some of the "good" effects from test (4ad)?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    since 4 ad is a precursor to test would this help with tren sides like libido and progesterone gyno?
    It will def keep your libido up and maybe even keep that lethargic feeling under control but, no it will not prevent gyno actually it could make it flare up in sum cases, im not gyno prone so i never worry about it.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by JOHNJESSICA20 View Post
    It will def keep your libido up and maybe even keep that lethargic feeling under control but, no it will not prevent gyno actually it could make it flare up in sum cases, im not gyno prone so i never worry about it.
    how would it flare up gyno? i will be running it with epistane, so would i have to worry
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    how would it flare up gyno? i will be running it with epistane, so would i have to worry
    4ad can cause gyno reguardless what u run with it , my personal friend had a flare up while he was on 6 week epi/4ad/1ad but, i ran the exact cycle at same time and had zero issues with even higher doses than he was taking so that goes to show you every person is different my man so better safe than sorry ya know.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by JOHNJESSICA20 View Post
    4ad can cause gyno reguardless what u run with it , my personal friend had a flare up while he was on 6 week epi/4ad/1ad but, i ran the exact cycle at same time and had zero issues with even higher doses than he was taking so that goes to show you every person is different my man so better safe than sorry ya know.
    alright brotha thanks for the honest warning
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  7. Which product is more softer on the liver, 4-ad UTT or 1-andro UTT? I'm only thinking of taking 1 and also I'm in the US army, am I gonna get in trouble?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by zchen View Post
    Which product is more softer on the liver, 4-ad UTT or 1-andro UTT? I'm only thinking of taking 1 and also I'm in the US army, am I gonna get in trouble?
    These 2 products are considered by most to be a mild ph I honestly don't think one over the othe. Will be much of a difference. As for being in military your g2g I sent couple bttles of each to close friend serving over in Iraq and he had no issues

  9. im about to start taking 4-ad liquid today. Should I take it with/without food or does it matter?

  10. I just got 2 bottles of the 4-AD UTT XL. Now I noticed that the "XL" version lists 25mg per 1ml and the original UTT size lists 40mg per 1ml. Is this a misprint on the label itself? Or does the XL version contain less active ingredient than the original UTT size? I noticed that the other UTT XL versions (1AD, Deca) still list 40mg per ml.

    The reason I ask is b/c I am trying to figure out a good test base dosage for my next cycle. It seems that you need to take twice the amount in the XL bottle to equal the original bottle size. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by rayactr2k6 View Post
    im about to start taking 4-ad liquid today. Should I take it with/without food or does it matter?
    I like doing it upon awaking..

  12. There is no way you could get enough of a dose of this stuff to actually get any quantifiable results!...I used to run 800 mg of 4ad transdermal back in the day. So 40mg of something that actually has to convert to 4ad and then to testosterone is just ridiculous.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    There is no way you could get enough of a dose of this stuff to actually get any quantifiable results!...I used to run 800 mg of 4ad transdermal back in the day. So 40mg of something that actually has to convert to 4ad and then to testosterone is just ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    There is no way you could get enough of a dose of this stuff to actually get any quantifiable results!...I used to run 800 mg of 4ad transdermal back in the day. So 40mg of something that actually has to convert to 4ad and then to testosterone is just ridiculous.
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  15. Just one question: now days I'm a swimmer and do some weights to complement swimming (nothing compared to what I used to do when I was doing pure hypertrophic training). I was wondering if a simple 4 week cycle at 2ml per day, or 6 week 1ml per day would give me any benefit in terms of endurance and recovery since those are my main concerns? (of course if I add some few pounds I wont be sad, but you know what I mean)
    If so, what kind of pct should I run for such a mild cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    Just one question: now days I'm a swimmer and do some weights to complement swimming (nothing compared to what I used to do when I was doing pure hypertrophic training). I was wondering if a simple 4 week cycle at 2ml per day, or 6 week 1ml per day would give me any benefit in terms of endurance and recovery since those are my main concerns? (of course if I add some few pounds I wont be sad, but you know what I mean)
    If so, what kind of pct should I run for such a mild cycle?
    I'd go with the 2ml/4week over a 1ml/6 week cycle. As far as PCT goes, AROM-X should do just fine at the bottles recommended dose.

  17. Hum, I see. So what kind of results do you think I can expect from it considering this will be my first anabolic PH cycle, as the only other two steriodal suff I've experienced were 6-bromo and ATD?
    When you mention Arom-X are you refering to then new RD edition or the previous UTT? And for how long should the PCT be?
    Thanks for the input
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    Hum, I see. So what kind of results do you think I can expect from it considering this will be my first anabolic PH cycle, as the only other two steriodal suff I've experienced were 6-bromo and ATD?
    When you mention Arom-X are you refering to then new RD edition or the previous UTT? And for how long should the PCT be?
    Thanks for the input
    I'd run PCT for 4 weeks. UTT or RD, whatever one you prefer. As far as gains, its hard to tell, everyone is different, but you will see results. Again, this all depends on your diet and training, but seeing as it is a first run, it should treat you right.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by tattoopierced1 View Post
    I'd run PCT for 4 weeks. UTT or RD, whatever one you prefer. As far as gains, its hard to tell, everyone is different, but you will see results. Again, this all depends on your diet and training, but seeing as it is a first run, it should treat you right.
    Thanks Tattoopierced I'll report here my results after doing the whole cycle then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    Thanks Tattoopierced I'll report here my results after doing the whole cycle then.
    You should run a log on here..lots of ppl to bounce questions off of and get some good ideas...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by tattoopierced1 View Post
    You should run a log on here..lots of ppl to bounce questions off of and get some good ideas...
    When I start my cycle I'll post it here
    Btw, is there any diference of mg per ml between the 4-AD UTT 60ml and the 4-AD UTT XL 120ml?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    When I start my cycle I'll post it here
    Btw, is there any diference of mg per ml between the 4-AD UTT 60ml and the 4-AD UTT XL 120ml?
    That is what I'm trying to figure out. On the old 60ml bottle there was 40mg per ml. On the 120ml bottle it says there are 25mg per ml. Hope it's a misprint.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by hagels316 View Post
    That is what I'm trying to figure out. On the old 60ml bottle there was 40mg per ml. On the 120ml bottle it says there are 25mg per ml. Hope it's a misprint.
    I don't believe it is a misprint. If I recall correctly it was done in order to be sold in some of the stores that have oddball rules about the products they sell (GNC for example). Maybe a rep could confirm this, or maybe I am thinking of another product all together.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by hagels316 View Post
    That is what I'm trying to figure out. On the old 60ml bottle there was 40mg per ml. On the 120ml bottle it says there are 25mg per ml. Hope it's a misprint.
    That's what I've found online, but since there's a big chance to miswritte things online, since I've also found 120ml bottles saying they have 40mg per ml I don't know what to think. But I guess a rep could answer me more specificaly

  25. I have a 2 unopened 120ml 4-AD XL bottles, each one says its 25mg/ml. I had an old 60ml bottle about a year ago and I'm sure it was 40mg/ml. But what doesn't makes sense is the other "XL" bottles (1-AD, etc) are still listed at 40mg/ml. Why did only the 4-AD LX mg amount reduce? This needs to be sorted out by an AMS rep.
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