- 07-27-2009, 05:54 PM
I wrote AMS's customer service, and they replied saying I should see results with their recommended stack and dosages. I wanted to see results, with the hard earned money and time I invested. AMS should have some other recommended stacks such as 3ml per day on their customer support website. Instead of following some guy's sample stack on a blog, telling me, "what I should have done." Which he could have just made up. I would rather follow the directions from the company who made the product. If 3ml, 4ml, or even 8ml per day would have been better, I want the company share that info with me, not just me willy nilly increasing the dosages just to see what happens - negative or positive. And who knows, maybe my body is immune to the stuff, but any way, will not be using the product any more based on my experience with the AMS's RECOMMENDED dosages. Thanks and good luck.
- 07-27-2009, 09:59 PM
I have been on UTT 1Andro ( 2 x 1 ml)for two weeks and at the end of this week I am going to add in 4-AD UTT ( 2 x 1 ml). The whole cycle is planed to go for 6 weeks.
Well so far I can not report any gains in muscle mass ( lbs on the scales ) nor any
strength increase maybe I have slightly increased in definition. But could also be
because I am more active ( cardio, swimming ) I will observe.
Normally I respond very well to ph etc.
- 07-28-2009, 07:49 AM
07-28-2009, 02:07 PM
Have you tried any other PH's or steroids before?
07-28-2009, 08:38 PM
07-28-2009, 11:02 PM
I forgot to mention some specifics on my training. I give about 4-5 days rest between a particular training day, do 2 days of 30 minute cardio, and one day of complete rest per week. I do 6 sets of deep squats and 6 sets of deadlifts on one training day; 6 sets of flat bench, 3 sets of incline, 6 sets of military presses, 3 sets of weighted dips, and 2 sets of triceps extensions on another day; 5 sets wide grip pullups, 2 sets underhand pullups (with a few of those sets weighted), 5 sets of heavy bent over rows, 2 sets of reverse back flies, 4 sets of biceps curls, 2 sets of reverse curls on my last training day. I try to give either a day of cardio or rest between my training days, but by design I always have to do 2 days of lifting back to back once during the week. And like I mentioned above, I did about 3 extra sets on my training days while on the stack. I also give about 1 to 3 minutes rest between sets; with 3 minutes on flat bench, squats, and deadlifts as I am trying to increase my strength in those exercises (optimal rest for strength increases is 3-5 minutes, with heavy weight and low reps).
07-29-2009, 09:57 AM
I won't nit pick your training or diet. That was not my intention. But I will say that I have seen national level competitors that have to change the way they train and their diet to see gains. So for anyone to say that diet and training is spot on, is really not an accurate statement. It constantly has to be revamped to continue seeing gains. It looks like you recognize overtraining, so maybe all you need is a change in routine and diet? Little tweaks make a big difference sometimes.
As far as enhanced recovery time, I have taken these compounds and they do help with this. You can read my log and get an idea of how they worked for me. I just started taking the utt's. The reason I asked about previous cycles was this......it is usually harder to make gains after several cycles. You gains are somewhat diminished unless you continually up the dose or you have a very long time in between cycles to give receptors time to respond. Being your first cycle, I would have expected you to have excellent gains. I have followed logs on AMS's products and even IML's 1 andro rx and almost all of them are positive.
One thing I would note is your statement about training to failure on every set......have you considered that your CNS may be shot and need time to recoup? That is something is is very frequently overlooked.
07-29-2009, 12:26 PM
07-29-2009, 05:01 PM
Thanks guys, that seems logical, that I should have increased the dosage to at least 3ml since I was over 200lbs. I wish I would have made contact with you guys earlier, no big deal though, I live and learn. I am glad to hear that others are having positive results with AMS's products. As far as 3 extra sets per training days, I can honestly say that was probably out of the ordinary for me, meaning that the compounds helped me jam those extra sets out. Although no noticeable results in muscle mass or strength. Thanks again, and I will look forward to keeping in touch with you guys to plan a stack if I decide to try AMS products again.
And thanks dg806 for taking the time to share your opinions and knowledge, that definitely gives me food for thought on my training, diet, etc. Good luck and take care.
07-30-2009, 12:00 AM
07-30-2009, 10:13 AM
07-30-2009, 10:20 AM
07-30-2009, 10:21 AM
07-30-2009, 12:54 PM
07-31-2009, 03:06 AM
So a guy who weighs 220lbs with an extensive PH history dating back to the original 1AD/4AD...
What dosage would you recommend? 2-3x the amount suggested on the bottle?
07-31-2009, 07:54 AM
07-31-2009, 08:22 PM
I got my 4-AD UTT today
the last two weeks until now:
2 x 1 ml 1Andro UTT
my cycle for the next four weeks is going to look like this:
3 x 1 ml 1Andro UTT
2 x 1 ml 4-AD UTT
08-05-2009, 11:41 PM
08-06-2009, 08:08 AM
08-06-2009, 04:38 PM
I think bigcatdaddy was up close to 4ml at one point. He had to spread out the doses a lot though.
There is a person who posts here about to start 4ml/day soon. Ill see if he will log it here as well.
08-07-2009, 01:56 AM
08-07-2009, 12:16 PM
08-08-2009, 03:59 PM
I 'm back
I have put on around 5lbs in 25 days.
BF% still the same.
I look a little bit more spongy
I will be back.
08-11-2009, 10:04 PM
08-13-2009, 12:43 AM
08-13-2009, 09:15 AM
08-20-2009, 10:24 PM
What's up brothers? I am about to try a stack of your utt products. I am 6'3" and 210 with probably around 16-20% BF. 6 months ago I was a lean 190, did a cycle of sust 250 and didn't do a pct cause I was dumb and consequently lost my gains and gained some fat. I am in the Army so I excercise usually two times a day. We run around 20 miles a wk, and do crossfit three times weekly. My diet is not the best but it's not the worst either. I am looking to burn off this "bitch" fat off, gain some lean mass and build my speed and endurance back to where they used to be. Also I am about to turn 30. Any advice on what products to use and dosages you fellas could give me would be appreciated. Thx Bros
08-21-2009, 12:13 PM
08-21-2009, 02:54 PM
08-21-2009, 03:25 PM
08-21-2009, 04:02 PM
hey tat, is the decavol utt out yet? i cant seem to find it in any stores.
Also do you think i'll have any issues w/ libido during cycle or is it just after the cycle that i have to worry about that?
08-21-2009, 04:08 PM
08-21-2009, 04:14 PM
So will any of these affect my cardio endurance? I typically run 5-6 miles in one shot at about an 8 min mile. Sorry to b a nag. But I appreciate your help
08-21-2009, 04:19 PM
Also what about just a 4ad/decavol stack with arom-x as pct? think i would get the results i'm looking for? I got a wife and 2 kids so i'm on a budget and can't afford all three.
08-21-2009, 04:48 PM
08-21-2009, 04:50 PM
shouldnt hurt your endurance, no back pumps or anything with these compounds so you should be good. It all depends on what you want to do, if you are worried about libido loss while on cycle, go with 4ad, but some dont experience any loss at all with 1Andro so it all depends on how you react to that compound.
08-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Thanks alot tat, is there anyway I could get my hands on some coupons or something to help with the budget issues? I would be willing to do a sponsored log or something like that as well. Either way thanks for all your help. Take care brother.
08-25-2009, 10:45 PM
does this effect testosterone levels?
does it cause shrinkage?
The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.
08-25-2009, 10:56 PM
09-12-2009, 07:31 AM