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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    sounds like a controlled drop




    I kid

    Actually, the seal on the bottle hadn't even been broken, so they didn't even bother to take any pills for testing purposes


  2. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    Pat, do you know if there is any way to degrade the oil base the active ingredient is dissolved in without altering the integrity/chemical structure of the active ingredient itself? I'm just wondering if there is a way I can render this into a supplement that can be absorbed sublingually...
    I'm not PA, but no.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    No, I'm not, and it's about to get even more bizarre.

    In a classic "WTF" moment, I walked out to my mailbox to get the mail about an hour ago, and on top of all the junk mail and leaflets, there's a random bottle of Danabol just sitting there. It's not in a box or envelope and it doesn't even have a shipping label. It was just sitting in my mailbox. Unless it grew legs and walked from the customs office in NY to my mailbox (not ruling this out), I honestly have no idea how anyone at the local post office could've known it was supposed to have been delivered to me.
    Batman is your mailman.


    This thread is awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    Actually, the seal on the bottle hadn't even been broken, so they didn't even bother to take any pills for testing purposes
    You sure it's the same bottle...?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    You sure it's the same bottle...?
    Yeah, they only took one of the bottles of Danabol I ordered, and the one that showed up magically in my mailbox (as if it was trying to find its way home) looks exactly like my other bottles of Danabol.

    I am going to sound like a total wimp for this, but do you guys think a 25 gauge needle would work for injecting the oil-based products? I read that I would have to use a separate syringe to draw the liquid and then transfer it manually to the 25 gauge needle. Do you think doing this would cause issues with sterility? Or should I just man-up and go with 23 gauge needles?

  5. You should be sane and not even consider injecting a 100% unknown substance. Or at least find a lab to analyze 1 bottle
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    You should be sane and not even consider injecting a 100% unknown substance. Or at least find a lab to analyze 1 bottle
    I usually am sane, but when it comes to this, I am not sane... I am on the xenoandrogen high. I realize that it doesn't justify injecting this stuff, but I have browsed a few threads on European bodybuilding message boards in which people have described, in a language totally foreign to me, purchasing and injecting xenoandrogens (as far as I know, nothing has happened to them... ?)

    So if this stuff is suspended in a mixture of grapeseed oil, benzyl-benzoate, and benzyl alcohol, there's no way it will absorb sublingually (I wasn't sure since the suspension isn't pure oil)?

  7. Increased gauge of the needle does not mean more discomfort. Studies have shown its the technique, not the needle that determine whether it hurts or not.
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  8. Inquiring minds would like PA to test this stuff. Please


  9. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    thats a popular trick with companies that sell u scam products. they list warnings of side effects and that makes u think it must be real. its like those diets that warn u that if u lose more than ten pounds in a week u must stop taking the product!!! barf
    LOL. I always hear those commercials and chuckle each time. If you lose over ten lbs the first week seek IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!

  10. I would inject this without knowing what it was.

    I would inject it into Blake though, not me.
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  11. This thread is absolutely spectacular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I would inject this without knowing what it was.

    I would inject it into Blake though, not me.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    Yeah, they only took one of the bottles of Danabol I ordered, and the one that showed up magically in my mailbox (as if it was trying to find its way home) looks exactly like my other bottles of Danabol.

    I am going to sound like a total wimp for this, but do you guys think a 25 gauge needle would work for injecting the oil-based products? I read that I would have to use a separate syringe to draw the liquid and then transfer it manually to the 25 gauge needle. Do you think doing this would cause issues with sterility? Or should I just man-up and go with 23 gauge needles?
    any gauge will work, just depends on how hard you can push and how patient you are, and how much pressure your syringe can take before the plunger bends
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by quigs View Post
    Increased gauge of the needle does not mean more discomfort. Studies have shown its the technique, not the needle that determine whether it hurts or not.
    u do know that increased gauge corresponds to the smaller the needle

    technique is important but all things equal a skinnier needle results in less physical trauma and scar tissue than a larger bore
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Inquiring minds would like PA to test this stuff. Please

    yes good idea

    hundred dollah

    i only need a few pills and/or couple of cc's oil
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    yes good idea

    hundred dollah

    i only need a few pills and/or couple of cc's oil
    ^^ Pat, I can send you that. But are you joking or serious about the hundred dollah part?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

    yes good idea

    hundred dollah

    i only need a few pills and/or couple of cc's oil
    I would like to know what's in there too.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    ^^ Pat, I can send you that. But are you joking or serious about the hundred dollah part?
    I dont joke about cost. Hundred dollars per sample. Just this once though I will test both the oil and the pills for 100 dollars. Cuz I want to humiliate you by proving the stuff contains crap

    PM me and i will send you an addresss to send to
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I dont joke about cost. Hundred dollars per sample. Just this once though I will test both the oil and the pills for 100 dollars. Cuz I want to humiliate you by proving the stuff contains crap

    PM me and i will send you an addresss to send to
    Almost as good as your post that said: "Just shut up and buy my stuff." hahaha But yeah other than that, I am interested in seeing what kinda stuff you find in this xenoandrogens (if you find anything-which I highly doubt-)
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Almost as good as your post that said: "Just shut up and buy my stuff." hahaha But yeah other than that, I am interested in seeing what kinda stuff you find in this xenoandrogens (if you find anything-which I highly doubt-)
    Its probly straight tribulus lol.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Almost as good as your post that said: "Just shut up and buy my stuff." hahaha But yeah other than that, I am interested in seeing what kinda stuff you find in this xenoandrogens (if you find anything-which I highly doubt-)

    i suspect i will find maybe some phytosterols and thats it. but who knows
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Its probly straight tribulus lol.

    which is phytosterols basically
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    Its probly straight tribulus lol.
    But that would still yield gains in mass and strength right? Everyone knows tribulus is a great test booster lol
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    But that would still yield gains in mass and strength right? Everyone knows tribulus is a great test booster lol
    20 pounds in 4 weeks bro lol.

  25. Then all of you should simply split the cost of $100 however many ways and PayPal it to PA, so he can test the stuff.

    Then he can go get some red velvet cupcakes and eat only that while taking these super awesome supplements no one has ever heard of (probably because you made them in your lab!) and grow biceps on top of biceps. Are you not willing to go near the nicotinamide riboside question still?

  26. It will probably be a few weeks before I'm in a position to pay to get this stuff tested since I'm going on vacation next week ($) and getting ready to take the GRE ($) and apply to graduate programs ($). I'm not sure that you'd find anything unusual, anyways; Mega Gear states that xenoandrogens are just forms of nicotinamide, tocopherols, and tocotrienols that have been structurally modified to resemble hormones. It might just be plain ol' nicotinamide, LOL.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    It will probably be a few weeks before I'm in a position to pay to get this stuff tested since I'm going on vacation next week ($) and getting ready to take the GRE ($) and apply to graduate programs ($). I'm not sure that you'd find anything unusual, anyways; Mega Gear states that xenoandrogens are just forms of nicotinamide, tocopherols, and tocotrienols that have been structurally modified to resemble hormones. It might just be plain ol' nicotinamide, LOL.
    Nicotinamide riboside is interesting so far, look it up if you haven't already.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by RD929

    Nicotinamide riboside is interesting so far, look it up if you haven't already.
    Will it make my dick bigger?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    Nicotinamide riboside is interesting so far, look it up if you haven't already.
    Sounds interesting... I could see it selling very well as a supplement. As far as I know, though, Danabol (which Mega Gear claims in general terms is a modified form of nicotinamide) isn't specifically nicotinamide riboside.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    u do know that increased gauge corresponds to the smaller the needle

    technique is important but all things equal a skinnier needle results in less physical trauma and scar tissue than a larger bore
    Yes, I do. By increased gauge I mean smaller number...but i see how that can be confusing. I should have said increased bore.
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