xenoandrogens

[Vis]

If the pills don't work....it's all bunk. Let us know how it goes. The many D-bol "supplements" are fake crap and not anabolic steroids. Megagear might be right there with the rest of the imposters.

[SpicedCider]

Then again, keep in mind that Mega Gear actually markets these products specifically as xenoandrogens and not anabolic steroids, so technically, even if I don't feel something immediately, it could just be that xenoandrogens really do have to be taken for an extended period of time before effects are noticed (which is what I've read and been told). In other words, it probably isn't real D-Bol, but that doesn't mean it's complete crap (unless xenoandrogens themselves really are worthless)...

[HereToStudy]

Then again, keep in mind that Mega Gear actually markets these products specifically as xenoandrogens and not anabolic steroids, so technically, even if I don't feel something immediately, it could just be that xenoandrogens really do have to be taken for an extended period of time before effects are noticed (which is what I've read and been told). In other words, it probably isn't real D-Bol, but that doesn't mean it's complete crap (unless xenoandrogens themselves really are worthless)...

I want to apologize ahead of time for this, but what exactly is wrong with you? You have been told you are clearly buying into bull****, yet you are approaching this with such enthusiasm. In this post I quoted, you are already making justifications for what could be the cause when it doesn't work. I am with Pat on this one, it is upsetting to see that this gullible nature is still so prevalent, even more so disheartening that it can be found in a subforum that begins with "Advanced discussion."

Sorry to be a pessimist, but you should just toss it when it comes in.

[Vis]

No, you should feel it let's say "a reasonable amount of time". Minutes, not hours or days. That's just the supplement salesmans scam. Maybe that's Megagears target market. To sell injectables was the sole reason they got me to purchase. It's just nonsensical to go to the trouble of vials and injectable stoppers to then instruct to place the liquid under your tongue. I was thinking they said that to spoof the authorities, maybe I was the one spoofed! . It's quite alright the $80 won't effect my disposable income if it turns out to be a bunk product. I'm not giving up yet, but if the pills don't rock your world then it's all rubbish. You WILL feel real D-bol. It only takes minutes. The Ciba stuff took less than a minute for me to think "WTF!" and 20 minutes to feel like "F-ing A Superman". I have no experience with "new" D-bol. I can't imagine taking more than one of those tiny pills a day, 2-3/day would have put me in the ER.

[SpicedCider]

I want to apologize ahead of time for this, but what exactly is wrong with you? You have been told you are clearly buying into bull****, yet you are approaching this with such enthusiasm. In this post I quoted, you are already making justifications for what could be the cause when it doesn't work. I am with Pat on this one, it is upsetting to see that this gullible nature is still so prevalent, even more so disheartening that it can be found in a subforum that begins with "Advanced discussion."

Sorry to be a pessimist, but you should just toss it when it comes in.

I'm still trying to figure that out.

I guess at this point, I'm just going to give it a shot and see what happens. If it doesn't work, I'll have no problem admitting that xenoandrogens are a farce. BTW, the package did come in the mail today minus one bottle of Danabol that was confiscated by customs.

[SpicedCider]

No, you should feel it let's say "a reasonable amount of time". Minutes, not hours or days. That's just the supplement salesmans scam. Maybe that's Megagears target market. To sell injectables was the sole reason they got me to purchase. It's just nonsensical to go to the trouble of vials and injectable stoppers to then instruct to place the liquid under your tongue. I was thinking they said that to spoof the authorities, maybe I was the one spoofed! . It's quite alright the $80 won't effect my disposable income if it turns out to be a bunk product. I'm not giving up yet, but if the pills don't rock your world then it's all rubbish. You WILL feel real D-bol. It only takes minutes. The Ciba stuff took less than a minute for me to think "WTF!" and 20 minutes to feel like "F-ing A Superman". I have no experience with "new" D-bol. I can't imagine taking more than one of those tiny pills a day, 2-3/day would have put me in the ER.

I have no doubt that a dose of real D-Bol would be felt within minutes of being taken, but the thing is, they don't even claim this to be real D-Bol -- it's the xenoandrogen "alternative" (in their words) to D-Bol. If you felt like Superman taking just one real D-Bol per day, then I know Danabol (the xenoandrogen) isn't nearly as potent because the Mega Gear employee told me to take 5 per day for 12 weeks. That combination of dosing regimen and cycle length would probably kill someone taking real D-Bol.

You probably are right about the liquid products being intended for injection, though; the employee did tell me that mass gains tend to be more substantial for people who inject the drug rather than take it orally. In fact, he said that the main reason they advise folks to take the liquid products orally is because they can't sell anything injectable as a dietary supplement. If I wasn't such a sissy in addition to being an all-around hard head, I would probably inject the Testobol-250.

[henryv]

It seems kind of strange that they confiscated my package since Austria is generally regarded as a "safe" country (in terms of postal shipments).

I wouldn't say that. One of the world's biggest steroid operations was busted not so long ago just across the border in Slovenia.

[Patrick Arnold]

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I do agree that the packaging seems to be high-quality and lends a notion of legitimacy to the products. Hell, the boxes even have authenticity holograms like you'd find on the tag on a shirt from Armani or something.
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stop right there and read what you said. now think to yourself that if you were to make a counterfeit scam product that would be convincible what would you do?

put it in a crappy box?

i am waiting for the lightbulb in your head to flicker on but i am starting to have doubts

[Patrick Arnold]

If the product is real, you'll notice the effects rather quickly. I notice a difference from an TRT injection in 20 minutes. Physical changes, not just mental- like the ol' ball sack tightens up and stays tight for 5-7 days. I'm almost 50, my ball sack isn't tight.

I've never heard of drinking an injectable by placing under the tongue??? I just can't imagine that would work??? The Dianabol will be the proof. If you feel nausated, then europhorically invincible THEN you'll know this is real stuff. It doesn't take hours, days or weeks. It's minutes...

yeah the old get nauseous on dianabol and then blow up. happens to everyone. wtf?

and of course putting an injecatable oil based steroid under the tongue would not work. the oil would prevent the steroid from transferring into the oral mucosa to begin with...and even if it didnt the amount absorbed would be quite miniscule

[Patrick Arnold]

I want to apologize ahead of time for this, but what exactly is wrong with you? You have been told you are clearly buying into bull****, yet you are approaching this with such enthusiasm. In this post I quoted, you are already making justifications for what could be the cause when it doesn't work. I am with Pat on this one, it is upsetting to see that this gullible nature is still so prevalent, even more so disheartening that it can be found in a subforum that begins with "Advanced discussion."

Sorry to be a pessimist, but you should just toss it when it comes in.

i am starting to think that this guy is a shill for the Mega Gear company

[Patrick Arnold]

I have no doubt that a dose of real D-Bol would be felt within minutes of being taken,

i am about to lose it and start throwing pots and pans around my apartment.

[Vis]

yeah the old get nauseous on dianabol and then blow up. happens to everyone. wtf?

and of course putting an injecatable oil based steroid under the tongue would not work. the oil would prevent the steroid from transferring into the oral mucosa to begin with...and even if it didnt the amount absorbed would be quite miniscule

That was my experience in 1985 with Ciba Dianabol tiny little blue pills. Only the first pill made me nauseous with in minutes, then euphoric. The remaining pills my system adjusted. I have NO idea of how the kitchen crap Dianabol works today. Perhaps that's YOUR experience. So, yes WTF!

[aplopez8]

[QUOTE="EasyEJL"]
so now its 4 1/2 inches?
4 inches exactly

[SpicedCider]

yeah the old get nauseous on dianabol and then blow up. happens to everyone. wtf?

and of course putting an injecatable oil based steroid under the tongue would not work. the oil would prevent the steroid from transferring into the oral mucosa to begin with...and even if it didnt the amount absorbed would be quite miniscule

Thanks for pointing that out; I didn't know that. Would there be any point to drinking the oil-based products if they can't be absorbed sublingually? Or is injecting them the only way I'll get any effects they (might) confer?

BTW, I'm not a shill for the Mega Gear company. I just became interested in this stuff after someone else made a thread on the other forum and my curiosity (and I guess stupidity according to others on the forum -- just don't neg rep me) got the best of me. However, regardless of whether this stuff is garbage or "the next big thing," the package (or what customs decided to leave behind of it) is here and so I figure I might as well take the stuff as long as it's safe. Maybe the light bulb just ain't up there.

[T-Bone]

so I figure I might as well take the stuff as long as it's safe. Maybe the light bulb just ain't up there.

So how do you know its safe?. You're not even sure what it is.

[EasyEJL]

No, you should feel it let's say "a reasonable amount of time". Minutes, not hours or days.

I can tell you something is an anabolic, put high doses of caffeine, DMAA, NDMA and synephrine in it, and you'll feel it in minutes. It doesn't make it an anabolic.

[SpicedCider]

So how do you know its safe?. You're not even sure what it is.

Yeah, I guess all I really have to go on regarding safety reassurances is the fact that a few other guys have taken it and aren't dead yet. I know it sounds ill-advised, but I'm just gonna go for it.

[SpicedCider]

I can tell you something is an anabolic, put high doses of caffeine, DMAA, NDMA and synephrine in it, and you'll feel it in minutes. It doesn't make it an anabolic.

Off-topic, but when it comes to stimulants, I'm a fan of good-old ephedra + caffeine... I think the bronchodilation seals the deal for me, especially during running.

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Off-topic, but when it comes to stimulants, I'm a fan of good-old ephedra + caffeine... I think the bronchodilation seals the deal for me, especially during running.

My stimulants always end up on my nose.

[SpicedCider]

My stimulants always end up on my nose.

I don't want to get too hardcore though since I'm also going to be hitting the xenoandrogens hard and heavy

BTW, does anyone know what type of needle I should use to inject the oil-based xenoandrogen? I might just man-up and inject it, but I've never injected anything before so I don't even know where to begin...