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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    u just need to send some caps but also you need to send 100 bucks
    Thanks, but we already have everything 3rd party tested, I just wanted everyone here to know we have no issues with our products being tested, Osta Rx or anything else.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by IronMagLabs View Post
    Thanks, but we already have everything 3rd party tested, I just wanted everyone here to know we have no issues with our products being tested, Osta Rx or anything else.
    ostarine wouldnt be something i would be so suspicious of anyway, since the stuff from asia has been verified already

    if you were selling follistatin 344 otoh i would not be so sure
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i have tested grey market ostarine and found what looked like ostarine. i dont remember what the brands were
    You find this, right? http://www.ama-assn.org/resources/do.../enobosarm.pdf

  4. sub'd for info

  5. Seeing as you are on all the boards have you seen bloodwork from anyone running ostarine in pct at lower doses? Or you just suspect based on your knowledge that it would not allow for optimal hpta recovery?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by smt1 View Post
    i dont recall

    its on my hard drive at work i can check later
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Seeing as you are on all the boards have you seen bloodwork from anyone running ostarine in pct at lower doses? Or you just suspect based on your knowledge that it would not allow for optimal hpta recovery?
    it is suppressive when taken by itself. this has been shown not only in people running it solo but i believe in actual studies as well

    i dont need to see anyone take it as part of a pct
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    it is suppressive when taken by itself. this has been shown not only in people running it solo but i believe in actual studies as well

    i dont need to see anyone take it as part of a pct
    Yes, I agree, but the studies showed no suppression at 3 mg. Perhaps there would also be no suppression at 10 mg. Hence why I said lower dose.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Yes, I agree, but the studies showed no suppression at 3 mg. Perhaps there would also be no suppression at 10 mg. Hence why I said lower dose.

    any dose of the stuff where you will see no suppression will be worthless for gains. that i will bet you. so what is the point of using it during pct other than to waste your money?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    any dose of the stuff where you will see no suppression will be worthless for gains. that i will bet you. so what is the point of using it during pct other than to waste your money?
    If that is the case then I would agree. But I assume there must be some dose where you are almost to the suppressive stage but not quite there, at which point you might get some anabolic effect to save gains, at least in the first few weeks of pct. I guess you would not agree with that assumption.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by IronMagLabs View Post
    Thanks, but we already have everything 3rd party tested, I just wanted everyone here to know we have no issues with our products being tested, Osta Rx or anything else.
    Why doesn't IML publish the CoAs on its products? I mean, if you spent the $$ to have it tested, and there are no issues as you say, it doesn't make sense to me to keep that info confidential. Personally, I believe its legit, but it'd be nice to know for sure that that there isn't any other "stuff" in there and that the dose/cap is accurate.

    Also, why did IML double the price of Osta Rx?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    If that is the case then I would agree. But I assume there must be some dose where you are almost to the suppressive stage but not quite there, at which point you might get some anabolic effect to save gains, at least in the first few weeks of pct. I guess you would not agree with that assumption.
    you want to believe this is more like it

    go ahead and take a small dose of the stuff during PCT if it gives you peace of mind then. I doubt it will hurt you
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    u just need to send some caps but also you need to send 100 bucks
    dang, times are gettin hard.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by hyperCat View Post
    Also, why did IML double the price of Osta Rx?
    because they are in the business to make money, not look out for their fellow bb'r.

    and they gotta come up with that 100 bucks to send the caps to pat.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by hyperCat View Post
    Why doesn't IML publish the CoAs on its products? I mean, if you spent the $$ to have it tested, and there are no issues as you say, it doesn't make sense to me to keep that info confidential. Personally, I believe its legit, but it'd be nice to know for sure that that there isn't any other "stuff" in there and that the dose/cap is accurate.

    Also, why did IML double the price of Osta Rx?
    well, yes we easily could do this, but what does it really prove? anyone could forge a COA and post it up and make it look legit. I guess we feel that our reputation and feedback online has a lot more value than a PDF document.

    we did not double the price of Osta Rx, we fixed the retail price at $99.99, retailers were not supposed to be selling it for $50.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by IronMagLabs View Post
    well, yes we easily could do this, but what does it really prove? anyone could forge a COA and post it up and make it look legit. I guess we feel that our reputation and feedback online has a lot more value than a PDF document.

    we did not double the price of Osta Rx, we fixed the retail price at $99.99, retailers were not supposed to be selling it for $50.
    you advertised osta-rx on your facebook page and told people to buy from the BDS website.. you guys obviously saw they were selling it for $50.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    you advertised osta-rx on your facebook page and told people to buy from the BDS website.. you guys obviously saw they were selling it for $50.
    And they had it on their own website initially for 79.99... So I suppose that's only a $20 price increase. But whatever, I guess. For me personally, it's not looking like it'll be worth $79, let alone $99. Maybe for many others it will be. I don't know how the whole retail/distributorships work in the supplement industry, so I can't really comment on what happened with BDS. Like jbry said, they're in it to make money, so more power to 'em if they can sell it at that price.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by IronMagLabs View Post
    well, yes we easily could do this, but what does it really prove? anyone could forge a COA and post it up and make it look legit. I guess we feel that our reputation and feedback online has a lot more value than a PDF document.

    we did not double the price of Osta Rx, we fixed the retail price at $99.99, retailers were not supposed to be selling it for $50.

    Your logic on the COA doesn't resonate with me as a consumer, but that's your call. Once I'm done with my bottle, I'll give you some honest feedback. I really like that IML had the nutz to come out with this product, but I just think it's a reach at that price point.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    because they are in the business to make money, not look out for their fellow bb'r.

    and they gotta come up with that 100 bucks to send the caps to pat.
    Totally understand it's a business, and they're well within their right to do what they please so they can make money. No question there...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by hyperCat View Post
    And they had it on their own website initially for 79.99... So I suppose that's only a $20 price increase. But whatever, I guess. For me personally, it's not looking like it'll be worth $79, let alone $99. Maybe for many others it will be. I don't know how the whole retail/distributorships work in the supplement industry, so I can't really comment on what happened with BDS. Like jbry said, they're in it to make money, so more power to 'em if they can sell it at that price.
    Simply replying to the statement that retailers were not supposed to sell at $50. If they weren't supposed to, then why advertise on your own facebook page a place that does?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by ProteinMurder View Post
    Interested in this topic, been looking at Ostarine...
    I'm interested in this topic as well. Def. wanna hear some results

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Simply replying to the statement that retailers were not supposed to sell at $50. If they weren't supposed to, then why advertise on your own facebook page a place that does?
    I dunno exactly how it works but i believe it is illegal to make agreements with distributors to agree to "price fixing"

    I think both sides need to agree though

    No one wants their products whored out but u cant control what things are sold for ultimately. U can choose to sell to only certain distributors of course
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by IronMagLabs View Post
    well, yes we easily could do this, but what does it really prove? anyone could forge a COA and post it up and make it look legit. I guess we feel that our reputation and feedback online has a lot more value than a PDF document.

    we did not double the price of Osta Rx, we fixed the retail price at $99.99, retailers were not supposed to be selling it for $50.
    funny! this sounds really familiar!! almost like the time you told me that the 30mg dose per serving was a typo!! lol! and that was a blatant lie.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by IronMagLabs View Post
    If PA wants to test our Osta Rx for you guys I would be happy to send him a bottle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    u just need to send some caps but also you need to send 100 bucks
    Quote Originally Posted by IronMagLabs View Post
    Thanks, but we already have everything 3rd party tested, I just wanted everyone here to know we have no issues with our products being tested, Osta Rx or anything else.
    really?? i'd like to see some 3rd party testing thats actually posted! and from a trusted source non the less!

    if you were so quick to send Patrick Arnold a bottle - why not just send him the couple caps and "shell out" the hundred bucks (as you put it, while referring to your customers buying osta at the "fixed" rate.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Simply replying to the statement that retailers were not supposed to sell at $50. If they weren't supposed to, then why advertise on your own facebook page a place that does?
    Good question that we'll probably never get the answer to...
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