Hormone Replacement Therapy?

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  1. Cool


    I like your thinking.



    "I suppose I could go back to drinking and popping prescription pills, and just sit around and wait to die, but for me thats not an option. Life if a gift, I dont want to waste it."






    Quote Originally Posted by AGELESS
    You MUST be kidding.....my friend, HRT is for a better quality of life. Putting on alittle muscle is just a side effect. It does not matter who you are or how old you are, you still must exercise to add muscle.

    As for hormone balance, it has helped with my depression, sleeping problems, libido and all the fat in my mid-section.


    I would like to know more about you. You have 43 posts and over 5 days on this board. You must know something!!

    "Get Over It" - Thanks for the advice and support. I'll just try to get thru another day.


  2. Ageless, I assume you've gained a lot of muscle since started HRT, no?

    Knowbull, I'm surprised that you think there is a lot of arrogance at AM b/c I think it is the opposite. People are definitely gung ho AAS, but the only time I really notice a harsh or superior attitude is when people expect others to do their research for them, and when people ask stupid questions that reveal that they don't know what they are talking about as they give others bad advice or are about to begin a cycle that can be dangerous if done without proper knowledge and planning.

    And it seems that most people say the supps are not the key to success; training, diet, and dedication are.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AGELESS
    I should probably let this go, but I still think you dont get it.

    HRT - Hormone REPLACEment therapy - replace means to put back low or lack of...in my case it is HGH & Free testsoterone. My estrogen was off the scale.

    I started HRT and stopped drinking (love Capt. Morgan) that supplement built me one great AB. I know it sounds like I am sensitive..hell your probably right.

    Im my mind...artificial enhancement is Pamela Anderson!!

    My intention is to help the poor guy that busts his ass day after day and all he gets for his effort is sweat.

    At age 40 or so, he should run a full blood profile...to see whats missing...fix it...dont accept it as "normal for your age". Thats total BS.

    Az2u - dont take this wrong, but get out of the 80's - just do some research - as there is more to this than putting on muscle.

    At 61 I found exercise without proper hormone balance is alittle like making love without a partner...a waste of time LOL
    I'm with you on this. There's a big difference between anti-aging medicine and the use of hormones to compete in athletics. Medicine has come a long way. At the dawn of civilization the average life expectancy was probably around 40. I don't know how much HRT will extend a person's life, but it certainly can improve the quality of what they have. It's not how long you live, but how you live it long.

    I can see from your pictures that you work hard at staying in shape. There are many on HRT who don't come close.

    Congratulations!

  4. Ageless is right to get pissed. It's all too common to hear such rhetoric about male hormone supplementation. Giving women hormones is accepted as a no-brainer in society and has been that way for years...but if a man asks for it...he's looked upon as some kind of drug addict or said to be trying to act like a teenager (trying to put on muscle at an old age). It's all bull****. My Father has low test levels and he was told "it's normal for your age". But after giving him some S1+ he has a newfound love....it's called LIFE. He is off the couch and in the gym. More energy, more alert etc. Another friend of mine has the same story and he recently (FINALLY) convinced his Doc (with my help) that HRT is in order.

    I puke everytime I hear this sort of crap spewed "HRT for men is only arrogence". That is pure bull**** and with about 15 minutes of research (providing you can read) you will find out why it is necessary in most cases. I'm 41. I'm going to get my T and IGF tested just to see where I am and get a data point. I'm with Ageless on this one....why not live the best quality of life you can into your golden years. That is what I call a no-brainer. I'm not going out with 30 years of limited mobility or strength crapping in a diaper if I have another option.

  5. The majority of persons on HRT don't even belong to a gym (sorry no study)
    its about quality of life or lack thereof
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  6. Not to mention that TRT promotes cardiovascular, bone, and prostate health (contrary to popular belief).

  7. Quote Originally Posted by colkurtz_spf
    I'm with you on this. There's a big difference between anti-aging medicine and the use of hormones to compete in athletics. Medicine has come a long way. At the dawn of civilization the average life expectancy was probably around 40. I don't know how much HRT will extend a person's life, but it certainly can improve the quality of what they have. It's not how long you live, but how you live it long.

    I can see from your pictures that you work hard at staying in shape. There are many on HRT who don't come close.

    Congratulations!
    agreed....great post. 54 here. I have a friend I tell the same thing to all the time. I try to tell him all the time what is meant by HRT...he just never gets it, though he says he does.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Brennon
    Not to mention that TRT promotes cardiovascular, bone, and prostate health (contrary to popular belief).
    Yep, studies are showing that estrogen is more the culprit.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by az2u
    Are you older guys thinking of doing HRT just to put on some muscle? At your age? Get over it.
    I never thought I would find someone here less informed that most doctors as it relates to HRT but voila here you are!!

    I am 43 and for many years was a lazy , slovenly , fat , cigarette puffing slob. Unfortunately I didnt start lifting etc when I was younger. Almost three years ago I quit smoking and completely changed my lifestyle. I work out 6 days a week. I eat super healthy 6 of 7 days of the week. I have went from 250+ lbs 30 some % BF to 192 15% today.

    About a year ago I noticed that I just had no drive left, no motiviation at the gym, work or anywhere. Very atypical for me as I am a very dominant figure at work adn very driven. Sex drive dropped off etc. Sleep was also horrible. Sleep study showed I wake up over 50 times a night. My doctor immediatley diagnosed as depression and wanted to give me pills. Now I have nothing against them if needed BUT

    I had started to read about andropause and after guding a doctor through the appropriate tests I found I was legitimately hypogonadal. I have been on androl gel for a year now and my life is changed!! I sleep better, have focus and drive, libido is back and I feel like a young man again.

    People like ageless here make me know that I can be a young man for a long long damn time. That "peopl;e our age" **** you throw is not for me. And you know what YES I do want it to help me build some muscle. Perhaps I misunderstand but for a guy like me in his 40s wiht low natural test its virtually impossilble for me to add muscle. Now I can

    ok vent over lol

  10. ^^^

    what he said and

    people should be able to do whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't directly affect others
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  11. Word up Jcam.

    Keep it up bro!

  12. the recomp on test is great... with 3000 clean calories I could play nothing but Xbox all day and be leaner the following week... ha, I can prove it too.
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  13. HRT


    Fantastic post on HRT - ageless looks unreal. I am currently considering HRT but im only 32. I just wonder if I start at this age how long can I live dependant on steriods? There seems to be no studies on this.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by woolfy
    Fantastic post on HRT - ageless looks unreal. I am currently considering HRT but im only 32. I just wonder if I start at this age how long can I live dependant on steriods? There seems to be no studies on this.
    May want to pick up a copy of Natural Hormonal Enhancement by Rob ***in. It is a great book on how to maximize good hormones naturally through diet and excersize. It is the best book I have ever read on sports nutrition. I recommend it before getting into exogenous hormone replacement, especially at 32.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by woolfy
    Fantastic post on HRT - ageless looks unreal. I am currently considering HRT but im only 32. I just wonder if I start at this age how long can I live dependant on steriods? There seems to be no studies on this.
    longer... normal or upper normal range of testosterone will help the immune system and ward off sickness and disease

    (we aren't talking about superphysiclogical doses here )
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by AGELESS
    ....dont accept it as "normal for your age". Thats total BS.
    There it is in a nutshell. We all need to ask 'how or why' rather than accepting or settling in life
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve777
    May want to pick up a copy of Natural Hormonal Enhancement by Rob ***in. It is a great book on how to maximize good hormones naturally through diet and excersize. It is the best book I have ever read on sports nutrition. I recommend it before getting into exogenous hormone replacement, especially at 32.
    Ditto on the book "Natural Hormonal Enhancement" Excellent reading! This book has knocked my socks off!

  18. I'm 34 and started HRT a year and a half ago...started off great but then Dr kept screwing around with doages and now i can hardly tell the difference from where I was before..but my natural test was very low and had a hard time gaining and keeping fat off no matter what I did...so it's a blessing for me..

  19. Matt

    My natural test levels are low due to using steriods which have suppressed certain hormone production in my HPTA. Are your low levels of testosterone due to the same cause as me?

  20. Hey WTF UR talking 2? Get over being an AH az2u

  21. Quote Originally Posted by AGELESS
    You MUST be kidding.....my friend, HRT is for a better quality of life. Putting on alittle muscle is just a side effect. It does not matter who you are or how old you are, you still must exercise to add muscle.

    As for hormone balance, it has helped with my depression, sleeping problems, libido and all the fat in my mid-section.

    I suppose I could go back to drinking and popping prescription pills, and just sit around and wait to die, but for me thats not an option. Life if a gift, I dont want to waste it.

    I would like to know more about you. You have 43 posts and over 5 days on this board. You must know something!!

    "Get Over It" - Thanks for the advice and support. I'll just try to get thru another day.
    Amen

  22. I am starting TRT with 200mg/week Test Cyp. Looking forward to the results.

  23. congratulations are due here, I don't know anything about you or your background so..here are some basics that most doctors overlook.
    #1 - storage of your cyp - keep it in a tupperware or ziploc baggy to eliminate outside air contamination. Just imagine what kind of air is in your bathroom - YUCK!! (1 cc cyp out - 1 cc air in)

    #2 - find out what your state requires for used syringe disposal.

    There are many more suggestions. Lets see how many more ideas our gurus come up with. Read the boards and learn. You will be doing Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a lifetime - Good Luck!!

  24. Interesting thread. I don't know if the bodywizard ever got his question answered. If one were query to the American Academy of Anti Aging Medicine (A4M), which certifies physicians specializing in this area, you could get a refferal to an anti-aging specialist... goto worldhealth.net...good luck. Hab

  25. Ageless I'm without age also. I wanted to ask you about anti-e during TRT therapy long term. Is 200mg/wk anything to worry about in that reguard
    ? If so, would OTC products be sufficient to control an estrogen problem?
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