T Levels

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  1. Tribulus is bunk and though all the anecdotal evidence of DAA is good or whatever, it did absolutely nothing for my T levels.


  2. DAA lowered mine. Awesome stuff!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    DAA lowered mine. Awesome stuff!
    realy?
    GAME ON! MOVAH FUKAZ!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/231867-man-sports-gameday.html#post4047619

  4. Yeah. Obviously any of us in this forum understand how many outside variables play into T levels, but keeping everything as consistent as possible between testing times and following recommended 3.2g a day for 60 days brought numbers down from 258 to 243.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by pcn View Post
    Really? I thought that was fairly widely known. Do a search on "beyond use date". I believe it's pretty standard practice in hospitals, maybe even an FDA requirement to discard a certain time after first penetrating the seal. A quick search can find these:

    http://www.usp797.org/QA-E5.htm
    http://www.apic.org/Resource_/TinyMc...ection0310.pdf
    http://www.cdc.gov/injectionsafety/p...ultivials.html
    http://www.ehow.com/list_6919635_fda...nit-vials.html
    Never heard of this..... and exposing oils to air means nothing as in breaking the seal. Hospitals might do it for a different reason like safety since you have multiple users and cross contamination may come into play? one time use bottles explains this, since I saw 200mg bottles being dispersed, but test going bad is not one of them. Pharm test has a few years expiration and beyond that it looses a bit of its potency but still ok from a safety stand point because it has alcohol in it.
    My HRT bottle lasts 12 weeks and it's been like this for years. Doctor or pharmacy never said to throw it out after 30 days.
    Interesting
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  6. Sorry, I wasnt clear. My point was that since it is a standard in the industry, insurance follows the hospital standard and pays to replace the bottle at that point as well. Say a patient in a hospital was getting a treatment and treatment ran past the 28 days even though the bottle wasnt empty, it would be confusing trying to keep up with different standards between insurance and the hospital. I wasnt claiming that it needed to be thrown away after 28 days; I keep mine and use it until it's gone and save the surplus.

  7. np, that makes more sense now.

  8. Hey fellas. Been tuning into this post. I'm 36 yr old with all the symtpoms of Low T. Always tired, no energy, no sex drive always moody. I basically had been argueing with my wife the past 2 years if not more to the point her thinking I was cheating on her. I wasnt but that what she felt. Anywho, just got tested yesterday and got my results today. My T levels were at 105. My HDL was at low end of normal but my LDL were 2 pts higher than normal range. I will post the specifics once I go into see my Doc next week. She did tell me over the phone she was going to prescibe me T shots at 100 mg a week. Im not sure if thats a good thing or not. Definately want a normal life back, but if I can gain some mass on it also hey what the heck lets do it. Any help would be great. Thanks

  9. words can barely describe how good you will feel. Good luck

  10. I would be dancing around in anticipation. Keeping in mind that it can and usually does take a couple-few weeks for all the positives to be noticed, but you should see a rebound in energy and mood pretty fast.

    I'm not even joking when I say that I actually get excited for you guys that are suffering and are working with doctors that will offer T injections. It is such a life changer that I can't help but feel happy for you.

  11. Kisaj and 3f thanks for your help. I have been suffering and unfortunately it has nearly cost me my job and my marriage. Question, can u run a ph along with t shots. Pct just needed for liver? Thanks and def rep power to both of u.

  12. First off, I would never run a ph. Secondly, there is no pct needed and you should concentrate on getting yourself on track and not add in variables. Of course, this is only my opinion. I come from a school of thought that you concentrate on getting healthy and then stick with the basics of eating, lifting, fitness, resting, calming and building the mind, and profit. You'll be incredibly surprised what you can do mentally and physically by getting your test levels right.

  13. Your right Kisaj! Thanks for the advice. I'll keep u posted and should have results next week

  14. Also when they use or give t shots. Is it a certain type or just straight T.

  15. I was prescribed cyp

  16. Quote Originally Posted by jalincoln View Post
    Kisaj and 3f thanks for your help. I have been suffering and unfortunately it has nearly cost me my job and my marriage. Question, can u run a ph along with t shots. Pct just needed for liver? Thanks and def rep power to both of u.

    It's funny you mentioned PH. I was just thinking during my workout today... I felt as good if not better today than when I ran epistane. And that's just TRT test cyp @ 120mg/ divided 70/50 per week. In fact, my wife was done and I stayed for another 10 minutes and kept lifting...and Saturdays are usually my rest day.
    Although I'm still considering some kind of cycle (Prob not PH) I have been impressed with my strength gains just being on this TRT. I go back and forth about what to do, but after a day like today, I feel like I'm already on. Well, I am on but you know, not at cycle dosages. Part of the other reason I'm not cycling though is that I don't even know where to get the injectables.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    It's funny you mentioned PH. I was just thinking during my workout today... I felt as good if not better today than when I ran epistane. And that's just TRT test cyp @ 120mg/ divided 70/50 per week. In fact, my wife was done and I stayed for another 10 minutes and kept lifting...and Saturdays are usually my rest day.
    Although I'm still considering some kind of cycle (Prob not PH) I have been impressed with my strength gains just being on this TRT. I go back and forth about what to do, but after a day like today, I feel like I'm already on. Well, I am on but you know, not at cycle dosages. Part of the other reason I'm not cycling though is that I don't even know where to get the injectables.
    Do you know what your current testosterone level is? Both total and free? I'd like to know at what level you are feel this well.

  18. Yeah 3f I can't wait to feel that good. I go yo the gym 4x a week and have decent workouts but the only reason I get through is because my PWO! Prob would go another day too. I'm curios also what ur T levels are at also. I'm happy for u bro. I'm glad ur hitting it hard and feeling good again. Keep it up. I'm sure I would definitely start gaining some bulk once I get on.

  19. My last blood work was on 11/6. My levels were
    Total 525
    Free 153.4
    But.... After one of the 5 docs I've been to saw that, he said he wanted total test to be 800-1100. So he upped my dose from 100mg/week to 120/week. Since upping the dose about 2 weeks ago, I'm not sure my new #'s.
    Something I learned to look for (from these forums) is how the test half life affects you. I was originally rx'd 200 e2w. That was too big of up/down so I had a different doc write it for e7d. But now I go 2x/week and that's even better.

  20. Well tomorrow is the big day. First I get my first T shot of 200mg then also my script for 100mg a week. Secondly, I will be able to post my #'s what my actual blood work was. Im really excited to feel normal again and have the energy that I need to work my 12 hr shifts and have enough energy to keep up with my 3 yr old daughter... Better days on the horizon...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    My last blood work was on 11/6. My levels were
    Total 525
    Free 153.4
    But.... After one of the 5 docs I've been to saw that, he said he wanted total test to be 800-1100. So he upped my dose from 100mg/week to 120/week. Since upping the dose about 2 weeks ago, I'm not sure my new #'s.
    Something I learned to look for (from these forums) is how the test half life affects you. I was originally rx'd 200 e2w. That was too big of up/down so I had a different doc write it for e7d. But now I go 2x/week and that's even better.
    My most recent test done just before injection showed my total T at 817 and free T at 120. The free T range is 47-244 so I am still in the lower half of the range. This shows what high SHBG does. This is much better than the test before that on test cream which was 252 total and 31 free.
    Quote Originally Posted by jalincoln View Post
    Well tomorrow is the big day. First I get my first T shot of 200mg then also my script for 100mg a week. Secondly, I will be able to post my #'s what my actual blood work was. Im really excited to feel normal again and have the energy that I need to work my 12 hr shifts and have enough energy to keep up with my 3 yr old daughter... Better days on the horizon...
    Good luck, I hope you get the benefits you hope for.

  22. So went to the doctor today. Forgot to get my numbers to post and I'm sorry. Like I said she's not to concerned for my liver/ ldl and hdl. She just said my t levels were at 105 and my pituitary function is fine. SO, I got my T-Cyp 200 mg, and a b12 shot. I don't know if its possible but I feel really good. I mean GREAT. Got that anxiety feeling like on going crazy. Its a good crazy though u know. Thanks fellas for all the support. U guys rock.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jalincoln View Post
    So went to the doctor today. Forgot to get my numbers to post and I'm sorry. Like I said she's not to concerned for my liver/ ldl and hdl. She just said my t levels were at 105 and my pituitary function is fine. SO, I got my T-Cyp 200 mg, and a b12 shot. I don't know if its possible but I feel really good. I mean GREAT. Got that anxiety feeling like on going crazy. Its a good crazy though u know. Thanks fellas for all the support. U guys rock.
    It's good she gave you a 200mg shot to start with. It will reduce the time it takes to get to your stable maximum level. 300mg would be better, but that's probably more than you could expect from the average doctor. Generally speaking front loading with three times the weekly dose gets you to max level right out of the gate.

  24. Ii got my blood level back from my first t shot and after one day my t levels jumped to 647. I hoping to get back up to 800. This is good.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jalincoln View Post
    Ii got my blood level back from my first t shot and after one day my t levels jumped to 647. I hoping to get back up to 800. This is good.
    Your testosterone level should continue to increase for the first few weeks of shots. My dose is 100mg per week. I am dividing the dose to inject every three days. After a few weeks my T level on the morning of injection before injection was 800 and my level 24 hours after injection was 1335.

  26. Yep, when I first started, 200mg put me around 1000. Now 100mg has me around 1250-1300 the day after. Day 5 before my next inject has me around 750. I've had a little over 800 and in the low 700s depending on if I had after work functions (haha) or the kids were sick and I was up all night, etc..

  27. My problem though is that even though my total T is good my free T is still in the bottom forth of the range. I am trying to get my doctor to increase my dose

  28. Hey guys, new to the forum. I am 32 and wanted to get my levels checked prior to getting a little older. I never go to the doctor, and wanted to know the best way to ask the doc about checking them. Do you just tell them your concerned with test levels and want bloodwork? My dad has low t and is on test cyp, and just wanted to check for myself. I would say I am above average muscle build, and think my levels might be up there, but who knows.

    I work out and have never done any steroid, and would like to take a pro hormone and see what kind of gains can be me made above what I have achieved.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by supacharged21 View Post
    Hey guys, new to the forum. I am 32 and wanted to get my levels checked prior to getting a little older. I never go to the doctor, and wanted to know the best way to ask the doc about checking them. Do you just tell them your concerned with test levels and want bloodwork? My dad has low t and is on test cyp, and just wanted to check for myself. I would say I am above average muscle build, and think my levels might be up there, but who knows.

    I work out and have never done any steroid, and would like to take a pro hormone and see what kind of gains can be me made above what I have achieved.
    Tell your doctor you would like to have your testosterone checked while you are young as a baseline measurement so in the future you will know how much your testosterone has declined.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by jalincoln View Post
    Well tomorrow is the big day. First I get my first T shot of 200mg then also my script for 100mg a week. Secondly, I will be able to post my #'s what my actual blood work was. Im really excited to feel normal again and have the energy that I need to work my 12 hr shifts and have enough energy to keep up with my 3 yr old daughter... Better days on the horizon...
    I wish you the best. The experience has been a positive one for me personally. I just have a better life in general.
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