Older guy thinking of prohormones ...
- 05-27-2011, 10:05 PM
- 06-03-2011, 05:12 PM
- 06-07-2011, 08:40 AM
07-20-2011, 03:49 AM
what did you decide and how are things going? I'm curious as I would like to hear your results and from what you are doing. I can't get into the endo until September as a new patient and considering to through something in until I can get into to see the dr.
07-20-2011, 11:49 AM
07-21-2011, 05:32 AM
did my first ph at 49 ... with great results. but the libido took a hit and Ive never quite come back to where i was pre cycle.
Despite that, ran a TBol/Proviron cycle this year, with terrible results. My test must just be way too low now, and it was all sides, and little gains.
Ive been using Ostarine, and love it. Its not gear, or even ph ... Id say somewhere above creatine, and below epi. But it CAN be slightly supressive ... maybe a 20 year old wont feel the difference, but I find I gotta cycle it .. usually 3/4 weeks on, then the same time off.,
07-21-2011, 07:57 AM
I dunno, it really makes more sense to get your levels checked and get into TRT if its appropriate. Mine is covered by insurance for 150 mg a week, which isn't a "bodybuilding" dose, but is pretty close to a 21 year olds level.Originally Posted by rocheey
07-28-2011, 03:54 PM
Overall I gained about 6lbs lean and lost nearly 3%BF running a diet 500 cals below maintenance and hit a few PRs till the pumps were too much. Though I followed what I thought was a good PCT regimine - Tomax, PCT Assist, Lean Xtreme, DAA, increase calories above maintenance, etc, I lost about half the lean gains, and maybe added 1/2 to 1%BF. If it wasn't for the horrible pumps, I might consider it again and increase H to 100, but I likely won't be touching H-drol again. I think everyone's reactions and results vary with a few people on the extreme opposite ends. My back didn't approve of the stuff. I'm considering Anabeta since I already like the PES line of supps. Just doing AlphaT2, Shift and a natty T boost right now. Might do an Anabeta cycle in a few weeks, maybe combine with 11-Oxo again or not. Haven't given it much thought, been busy with life and such ... peace.
07-30-2011, 02:50 AM
Thanks for the info. Man that is too bad that you didn't get the results that you where hoping for. Best of luck the next time. I go to the endo dr next month so I think that I will wait and see what the blood work looks like before I consider anything and probably the best idea. I might look into Epistane eod for a short cycle in the future like 3 weeks thus not needing PCT.
07-30-2011, 11:06 AM
07-31-2011, 03:18 AM
07-31-2011, 05:33 PM
08-05-2011, 10:08 PM
My only advice is to research the company that's making the product and the ingredients. A lot of companies put out complete crap. Epi for example is put out by a lot of suppliers and very few provide quality products.
08-12-2011, 07:48 PM
Get blood tests before and after. I know you probably won't, as I didn't but trust me DO IT or DONT do a cycle. Also, check out Dr D and the pulse method on Epi. Maybe a good way to go to lessen the chance of shutdown.
08-28-2011, 02:23 PM
everybody responds differently to ph's or aas. i think liver issues are over hyped and loss of libido too. i'm 39 and for 4 years i did high doses of everything i could get my hands on. i even took 60mg of m1t a day for 8 weeks, with tren and inj 4ad homebrew on the side for 16 weeks. sometimes i wouldn't even do a pct, which i dont recomend btw. order u a SERM. my liver enzymes would elevate slightly but would return to normal after and i drank beer heavily for years. for 3 years i was never off more than 8 weeks before i would go back on again. the only bad side effect i had was lethargy sometimes. i havent done anything in 4.5 years. i feel fine. libido is as good as it was in my 20's. and i KEPT most of the gains i made. i know i sound like a bad influence but, personally i'd do the strongest **** i could get my hands on if i was gonna bother with it.
08-30-2011, 07:26 PM
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