I will give it 6 weeks likely, longer if i see results
8 week run, was up 12lbs and after pct he was sitting around 9-10lbs. Idk about his start and end weights, pretty sure it was his first cycle of anything so his results could be a little biased towards that. Either way I have seen some receive great gains on the stuff.Nice! How long did he run it for and what dose? Are these his gains this before or after PCT? What were his start and end weights?
I think my next cycle will be LGD! :drunk:8 week run, was up 12lbs and after pct he was sitting around 9-10lbs. Idk about his start and end weights, pretty sure it was his first cycle of anything so his results could be a little biased towards that. Either way I have seen some receive great gains on the stuff.
Yeah I plan on running an Lgd/dermatrest cycle later this year, but who knows with all this new stuff coming out I might change my mind lol.I think my next cycle will be LGD! :drunk:
I hear you. I've been thinking a lot about trying Andros lately, especially after following smith_69 's cycle on the Spartan products. But I still have some SARMs to "burn through".Yeah I plan on running an Lgd/dermatrest cycle later this year, but who knows with all this new stuff coming out I might change my mind lol.
Well CRAP. Just bought some of their stuff !!Focused nutrition
Nothing wrong with our products lol. Just because they didn't see insane results within 2 weeks of use doesn't mean the **** is bunk.Well CRAP. Just bought some of their stuff !!
Know plenty of people who have had great results with Focused Nutrition products.... No need to worry...Well CRAP. Just bought some of their stuff !!
Indeed. My cycle was FN Ostarine. After the third day I felt a little bump, like maybe 10%, in strength .. small, but it was there .. maybe it was placebo, but towards the end of week three I felt the strength bump that everyone talks about. I really liked it.Nothing wrong with our products lol. Just because they didn't see insane results within 2 weeks of use doesn't mean the **** is bunk.Well CRAP. Just bought some of their stuff !!
To clarify my post I am by no means suggesting that. I simply haven't felt an impact yet. I'm not even certain if I should "feel " it or if it's subtle and will spiky yield nice modest results over time.Nothing wrong with our products lol. Just because they didn't see insane results within 2 weeks of use doesn't mean the **** is bunk.
well put. SARMS are NOT AAS- people need to stop believing they will blow up in 4 weeks like a PH- IT DOESNT HAPPEN LIKE THAT. Built up over 8-12 weeks. starting off in small doses and increasing. some dont even need to go full dose. people are just too eager to be on the cover of the next mag and start thinking the product is stale or a fake.Indeed. My cycle was FN Ostarine. After the third day I felt a little bump, like maybe 10%, in strength .. small, but it was there .. maybe it was placebo, but towards the end of week three I felt the strength bump that everyone talks about. I really liked it.
As far as LGD, from what I hear, you don't get that strength bump, it's more of a slow build up as you put on bulk. They may be similar, but they are different products. So maybe your expectations are from a different product. I found that when it comes to SARMs there is the misunderstanding that they all work the same, especially with Osta and LGD, where LGD is often referred as Osta's big brother.
I'm not defending FN here, as I have no interest either way, but my experience with their Ostarine was positive. In fact I have enough for another cycle ... Soon my precious, soon ...
when did you start to feel first effects of LGD ?LGD was awesome for me. I gained ~ 10lbs in 37 days while dropping my BF %. My base was only 1-2 pumps per day of Dermacrine and I had no noticeable negative side-effects to speak of. I dosed in the 8-12 mg range. I definitely liked 12mg.
Pros:
- Muscle fullness and pumps
- Muscle endurance
- strength gains (I didn't push it too hard though)
- High libido/energy/mood
Cons:
None to speak of.
One of my teachers in college used to say that we've become a such a "now" culture that we get all bent out of shape having to wait 2-3 minutes for food to heat up in the microwave.well put. SARMS are NOT AAS- people need to stop believing they will blow up in 4 weeks like a PH- IT DOESNT HAPPEN LIKE THAT. Built up over 8-12 weeks. starting off in small doses and increasing. some dont even need to go full dose. people are just too eager to be on the cover of the next mag and start thinking the product is stale or a fake.
Holy crap, just read this post. Toren do you mean to say you hit 10lbs in just a little over 5 weeks?? And with a drop in bf%! This is pretty awesome, I think my next cycle will be LGD. I guess keeping it at 6 weeks (or less) it didn't give time for lethargy to kick in.LGD was awesome for me. I gained ~ 10lbs in 37 days while dropping my BF %. My base was only 1-2 pumps per day of Dermacrine and I had no noticeable negative side-effects to speak of. I dosed in the 8-12 mg range. I definitely liked 12mg.
Pros:
- Muscle fullness and pumps
- Muscle endurance
- strength gains (I didn't push it too hard though)
- High libido/energy/mood
Cons:
None to speak of.
its not just you, there are hundreds of threads on the forum about this- i said people and not directed at or to you, so please dont take this that way and if you did, i apologize. you should start to notice more of a pump/bulk on your upper body within the first 3 weeks. mine started with hunger after the first week to 9 days then by the end of the second weekish, the pumps i had on my shoulders and upper back were insane.No one even said it was fake or that we aren't getting the results. All we said was we weren't feeling anything. I know that I'm not going to get jacked in just two weeks but I was curious if you feel a pump or anything
i kept telling you to stop fartin around with ostra, but noooooo, your little smurf ears wont listen. youll listen to a pizza but not to a bulging bicep smh lolHoly crap, just read this post. Toren do you mean to say you hit 10lbs in just a little over 5 weeks?? And with a drop in bf%! This is pretty awesome, I think my next cycle will be LGD. I guess keeping it at 6 weeks (or less) it didn't give time for lethargy to kick in.
What was your PCT and how long?
And this is how we do iti kept telling to stop fartin around with ostra, but noooooo, your little smurf ears wont listen. youll listen to a pizza but not to a bulging bicep smh lol
Pizza.... my favorite!i kept telling you to stop fartin around with ostra, but noooooo, your little smurf ears wont listen. youll listen to a pizza but not to a bulging bicep smh lol
all good bro, good that you asked- thats why were all here, but let us know how it turns outOkay thanks man I just don't want anyone to think I'm saying it's fake I was just wondering and I always appreciate everyone's help on these forums.
Sometimes the guys can get a little rough, but it goes with the territory. They mean well. Eventually you just get used to it.Okay thanks man I just don't want anyone to think I'm saying it's fake I was just wondering and I always appreciate everyone's help on these forums.
What dose did you use? 12mg was pretty decent for me but 16mg was great. Going to use 20mg for 8 weeks next time i use it.Ran OL LGD and didn't see anything that would make me interested in using it again.
SARMs have done nothing for me, overhyped, shut down for poor results.
To clarify my post I am by no means suggesting that. I simply haven't felt an impact yet. I'm not even certain if I should "feel " it or if it's subtle and will spiky yield nice modest results over time.
I know you guys didn't say it was bunk. My comment was in regards to Whacked assuming you guys meant it was bunk because you didn't "feel anything" within 2 weeks of use.I'm not saying it's bunk, I hope it didn't come across that way. I was just saying I haven't felt anything yet and was wondering if I'll feel something soon. People on here were the ones that recommended it so I know it's legit stuff
Ive always been a high dose responder on most things. I dont see a lot of bad sides posted on LGD anywhere. I am going to bump up to 20 on it and cruise.I just came off 8 weeks at 15 mg . I stacked with mk 677 . Awesome awesome awesome. I'm 42 years old and been lifting since I was 18 never did steroids so this is my first time using anything this strong. I blew up adding a solid 10 pounds of muscle, been off a week I'm using a serm liquidnol. As a pct. your gonna love this stuff
Slow and steady wins the race idk let me know ? I'm going to take 4 weeks on nova 20 mg every other day, then back on lgd 4300
Also NOLVA is generally 20/20/1010 so 20mg daily for 2 weeks then 10mg daily for 2 weeks idk where you got your protocol from but you're not setting yourself up for a good recoverySlow and steady wins the race idk let me know ? I'm going to take 4 weeks on nova 20 mg every other day, then back on lgd 4300
i think older gen like us will benefit more, i didI just came off 8 weeks at 15 mg . I stacked with mk 677 . Awesome awesome awesome. I'm 42 years old and been lifting since I was 18 never did steroids so this is my first time using anything this strong. I blew up adding a solid 10 pounds of muscle, been off a week I'm using a serm liquidnol. As a pct. your gonna love this stuff
I think your mistaken . I agree some time off but lgd is not a hormone but rather binds to the androgen receptor. That being said plus I'm 42 far from my peak but still kicken good .Time on+ pct= time off so take 8-10 weeks AFTER pct then cycle again if not enjoy TRT.
What difference does it make whether the compound is classified as a hormone or not??I think your mistaken . I agree some time off but lgd is not a hormone but rather binds to the androgen receptor. That being said plus I'm 42 far from my peak but still kicken good .
The hormone added then your body says wait there's hormone I can stop producing.
I'm mistaken? LOL. A SARM mediates the actual androgen receptor and btw Tesosterone and male hormones are ANDROGENS.... A SARM is an ANDROGEN. Therefore they both tell your body to stop producing, but do as you please.I think your mistaken . I agree some time off but lgd is not a hormone but rather binds to the androgen receptor. That being said plus I'm 42 far from my peak but still kicken good .
Wrong. SARMs have been proven already to suppress testosterone production.The hormone added then your body says wait there's hormone I can stop producing.
You're actually being beyond hard headed. LGD is VERY suppressive, they don't hit LH or FSH as hard if that's what you mean but they can easily drop you sub 100 T if you used irresponsibly. But yes keep ignoring our advice and keep listening to Dyaln Gamelli the SARM guru who is no way trying to take your money...Mild suppression .
No... 20mg EVERY day... for 2 weeks 10mg EVERY day for the last 2 weeks, and trash the DAA, DAA is worthless. Grab an AI keep it on hand incase any rebound. Grab a cortisol control. 3 basics to pct. SERM, AI, Cort control and if you want to add a natty T-booster.[/QUOTE. Damn I ****ed up
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