When caffeine fails/What stims work for you

[SSJ4GOD]

Hello everyone.
so I am kind of an interesting specimen. Caffeine provides me zero results. I can down 600mgs of caffeine and get no energy, no rapid heart rate, no anxiety, nothing. I have taken a nap after 400mgs before. This is with or without tolerance breaks. It just does nothing. Now, bupropion (a popular anti depressant) is supppsed to give people energy, it does nothing for me. I tried the ADHD medicine vynase at a single and triple dose and noticed no effect at all. Modafinil, hydrafinil, all the other analogues do nothing at all except make my pee smell.
The only stims that seemingly work as advertised are DMAA at or above 100mgs (even back in the jack3d days, and DMHA above 150mgs. Also cyclazodone works really well for me when I use it.

anybody else have a crap time with stims?

 

[Dick-Hertz]

Caffeine seems to make me tired, which is weird. I've recently switched to the Mesomorph PWO. (Germanium/DMHA).
Using 1/2 a dose as all stims make me crash later. I just like a little kick since I hit the gym at 5:30 AM. I'm not sure if I like it yet or not...

 

[sns8778]

Hello everyone.
so I am kind of an interesting specimen. Caffeine provides me zero results. I can down 600mgs of caffeine and get no energy, no rapid heart rate, no anxiety, nothing. I have taken a nap after 400mgs before. This is with or without tolerance breaks. It just does nothing. Now, bupropion (a popular anti depressant) is supppsed to give people energy, it does nothing for me. I tried the ADHD medicine vynase at a single and triple dose and noticed no effect at all. Modafinil, hydrafinil, all the other analogues do nothing at all except make my pee smell.
The only stims that seemingly work as advertised are DMAA at or above 100mgs (even back in the jack3d days, and DMHA above 150mgs. Also cyclazodone works really well for me when I use it.

anybody else have a crap time with stims?

From what you are explaining, it seems like you have a reverse effect or no effect to most stimulants, which can happen for some people and it can be caused by numerous factors. Have you ever taken a prolonged break from stims in general?

 

[SSJ4GOD]

Caffeine seems to make me tired, which is weird. I've recently switched to the Mesomorph PWO. (Germanium/DMHA).
Using 1/2 a dose as all stims make me crash later. I just like a little kick since I hit the gym at 5:30 AM.

They say caffeine making someone tired is a symptom on adhd but alas, adhd medicine doesn’t affect me. I even tried ah… whatever the compound Ritalin is. Nothing. Next to try I suppose is adderall when I can get some.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

From what you are explaining, it seems like you have a reverse effect or no effect to most stimulants, which can happen for some people and it can be caused by numerous factors. Have you ever taken a prolonged break from stims in general?

Yes sir. Went six months with my only stim source being a soda a day (so like 40mgs maybe) and then right after that went 6 months without even tea. Absolutely zero stims for that 6 months. Just very few stims work. It’s always been a huge disappointment for me.

 

[sns8778]

There are a lot of stimulant options available for people that don't get much or anything off of caffeine, but with pretty much all of them, the results are going to vary from person to person, so it's not really a matter of which one is the best, its a matter of finding which one is best for the individual person.

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I'm sure there's more, those are just the ones that come to mind right away.

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[sns8778]

Yes sir. Went six months with my only stim source being a soda a day (so like 40mgs maybe) and then right after that went 6 months without even tea. Absolutely zero stims for that 6 months. Just very few stims work. It’s always been a huge disappointment for me.

If you've tried a stim holiday already, and it sounds like you have, then the answer to why you don't respond to them is likely a complex one. It would derail your thread all to pieces if I went into all of the details and possibilities, but you're welcome to pm me or contact me sometimes and I'd be glad to go into it for you.

 

[Potbelly]

Caffeine seems to make me tired, which is weird. I've recently switched to the Mesomorph PWO. (Germanium/DMHA).
Using 1/2 a dose as all stims make me crash later. I just like a little kick since I hit the gym at 5:30 AM. I'm not sure if I like it yet or not...

Caffeine seems to make me tired, which is weird. I've recently switched to the Mesomorph PWO. (Germanium/DMHA).
Using 1/2 a dose as all stims make me crash later. I just like a little kick since I hit the gym at 5:30 AM. I'm not sure if I like it yet or not...

I have gone back to bed half hour after taking pre workout. In the same boat

 

[Rad83]

Try some smelling salts!

I like the ampules that ya can break and use when needed…Not sure it’s what you’re looking for, for daily use.

Also ephedrine, you try that ?

 

[SSJ4GOD]

Try some smelling salts!

I like the ampules that ya can break and use when needed…Not sure it’s what you’re looking for, for daily use.

Also ephedrine, you try that ?

Ephedrine does nothing at all. Even high dose

 

[Jstrong20]

For me Kratom works best and will even work with zero sleep. It can be addictive so I wouldn't recommend it everyday. As far as pre made preworkouts go crack and crack gold are the hardest hitting I e used. One has 120 mgs dmaa and the other has dmaa and dmha in it.

 

[Burnfire]

Try some smelling salts!

I like the ampules that ya can break and use when needed…Not sure it’s what you’re looking for, for daily use.

Also ephedrine, you try that ?

Dude this local shop I go to always gives me samples and stuff. Anyways I was getting some Karbolyn and the lady was like here you’ll love this. Wasn’t to sure what it was. Got the gym followed the instructions on the label. Holy hell!

 

[Rad83]

Nice score! That’s a 15 dollar product…

 

[Burnfire]

Nice score! That’s a 15 dollar product…

Yeah I love this shop man been going here since highschool. They have a bunch of sarms and PH or whatever these guys are selling now. I don’t even really look at that section these days.