I nitpick everyone, including SNS, really most heavily SNS (ask Steve or Mike
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I'm perfectly fine with you not using glucosamine or chondroitin, they're 'last generation' ingredients that require big doses to see moderate benefits. That's a perfectly reasonable argument, but it's not the argument that was made in the glucosamine/chondroitin thread.
The main argument made about it in the 'glucosamine and chondroitin scam' thread was about osteoarthritis, as if that's somehow a bad thing, and the main points *for* boswellia are also in osteoarthritis, painted as a good thing.
I think we could both agree that when your company reps label everybody else in the industry scammers for selling chondroitin and glucosamine, I am pretty entitled to respond by pointing out inconsistencies in the arguments made, right? If it's fair of your company to take that stance, I don't think it's unfair of me to argue it?
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Genoflex is a good product, Cissus is great, ApresFlex is great (I happen to think our extract is better, but both have multiple studies backing them as effective), and while limited data exists, Passion Fruit is certainly a potentially promising ingredient that hopefully plays out with more data in the future.
I think we would both also agree that *most* joint products on the market are awful, and that either GenoFlex or Joint Support XT are dramatically better than most product offerings out there.
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One other last thing I've said before, it might seem like I unfairly nitpick PES as opposed to a lot of other brands.
Really though, I only nitpick brands that are even worth nitpicking. I don't feel like getting infracted for dumpstering other joint products, but lets be honest, most of what's on the market is completely useless garbage.
I think highly of you and your brand, and I enjoy engaging conversation about products, ingredients, and their relative merits. I welcome your critique of SNS products, particularly those I think highly of, because I think that none of us should live in an echo chamber of sales-positive reinforcement. The sales-positive echo chamber on most supplement forums is in my opinion ultimately toxic to the industry long-term.
I don't think anybody can truly understand or appreciate the merits of anything without at the very least considering and thinking on opposing viewpoints. And those discussions need not be negative or destructive in nature, nor do I think SNS, PES, or anybody else should shy away from those discussions.