What is your “go to” nonmethylated sterod/ph to stack to a methylated steroid?

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Wondering what everyone’s favorite nonmethylated steroid to stack with a methylated compound is for either bulking or cutting?
 

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Trenavar is good one
Did a quick read up on Trenavar and the sides seem quite harsh. Besides the prolactin, also have to deal with high bp as a possibility, dehydration, fatigue, and insomnia. Sides aren’t bad for you bro?
 
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Did a quick read up on Trenavar and the sides seem quite harsh. Besides the prolactin, also have to deal with high bp as a possibility and insomnia. Sides aren’t bad for you bro?
Well, not so much, at 110 mg I felt all the good sides of Tren and none of the bad ones, felt really good.
 

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Interesting. About how frequently do you run it since it is known as a harsh compound? Is “oral tren” and trenavar the same compounds?
 
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Interesting. About how frequently do you run it since it is known as a harsh compound? Is “oral tren” and trenavar the same compounds?
No, it's not the same. Oral Tren is methyl-tren (trienolone), you run that evil thing around 250-500 mcg, Trenavar is estra-4 9 11-triene-3 17-dione, you run it at around 90-120 mg
 

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Reading about Trenavar. Sources say it isn’t methylated, but is still liver harsh, would you say it is harsh as like a methyl such as DMZ or Msten?
 
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back in the day .. yeah trenavar or even Xtren was non methyl

now cel epi-plex ( i like it started 2 weeks prior to throwing in other stuff )
 
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Interesting. About how frequently do you run it since it is known as a harsh compound? Is “oral tren” and trenavar the same compounds?
If we are talking real oral trenbolone than yes that is different and a way lot harsher than trenavar. That said trenavar is still a very solid component
 

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