Awesome progress so far, Volcom! Always fun to keep you company. :thumbsup:
LOL. Glad to have you on boardI've mentioned that I have an OCD with stacking products. Now that I'm a new and enthusiastic Controlled Labs fan, I went poking around through their stock of products. The Purple Wrath is a given interest, but my interest would be in the efficacy of their particular mix, because I already have a kilo of Leucine and BCCA's.
What really caught my eye, was number one, The New Neuphoria, and number two, "White Blood." I have this thing about "maxing out" a product. When I tried Anabolic Pump, I had to get Pslin in order to max out the insulin effect. When I tried 3-AD, I had to get Mass FX, Retain 2, Hyperdol X2 and X-factor, to max out the bulk experience. When I was on Adrenaline, I added Yohimbine and Ephedrine HCL...etc., you see the pattern?
Now that I'm enjoying the White Flood matrix, I have an itch to add the White Blood which contains an enhanced Arginine/Ornithine matrix. You see how this is an expensive habit?
The Neuphoria sounds interesting just because. I love me some endorphines and Neuphoria seems to work off of the naturally released endorphines associated with exercise. That's my kind of high. Anyway. I'm still running the White Flood solo, but I'm itching for some Neuphoria and White Blood.
x2! I agree with you on the pre-exhaust issue as well.sick workout man!
For sure. I wish I could take credit for it!I like that slogan you've got in your signature. "Winning the war against genetics" thats good stuff.
Glad to have you, and yes.these are some intense workouts.
btw. you went to csuf right, for kinesiology?
That's a crazy workout my friend!!! :head:Today was Chest and Back, and I brought my little brother along with me to workout with my regular workout partner, Zack. Therefore, this time, my little brother felt the full blunt of an ALL-OUT session. He hung in there and heart is all I ever ask for.
Flat Db Press, super-set, One Arm Db Rows
100lbs Db's x 15 reps, super-set, 100lbs Db's x 15 reps (each arm)
110lbs Db's x 12 reps, super-set, 110lbs Db's x 12 reps (e.a.)
115lbs Db's x 8 reps, super-set, 115lbs Db's x 10 reps (e.a.)
Incline Db Press, super-set, Incline Double Db Rows
85lbs Db's x 12 reps, super-set, 85lbs Db's x 12 reps
90lbs Db's x 10 reps, super-set, 90lbs Db's x 10 reps
95lbs Db's x 8 reps, super-set, 95lbs Db's x 10 reps
Smith, Incline Press, super-set, Machine T-Rows
185lbs x 20 reps, 135lbs x 15 reps
225lbs x 12 reps, 185lbs x 15 reps
240lbs x 10 reps, 225lbs x 12 reps
Body Weight Pull Ups, super-set, Body Weight Dips
8 reps, super-set, 15 reps
8 reps, super-set, 12 reps
6 reps, super-set 10 reps
Machine Pull Overs, super-set, Body Weight Push Ups
150lbs x 12 reps, super-set, 20 reps
150lbs x 10 reps, super-set, 20 reps
150lbs x 8 reps, super-set, 20 reps
Needless to say, we were all physically dead. I have to say that the White Flood has yet to disappoint.
Pre-Gym intensity: No restlessness, but a sense of sheer confidence in performing something above & beyond today.
Intra-set and inter-set, were terrific. I was drenched and super-setting "main stage" compound movements with large muscle groups is out of this world exhausting, but I never felt over-whelmed.
Post workout. Although I am physically dead and dying, mentally, I'm alert and well. Great stuff today. I finally got my epic workout in.
No restlessness + sheer confidence in the gym = a very common side effect of supplementing with White Flood ! Never feeling over-whelmed, and instead ready for every damn rep and set is not much of a downside either ! :head:Today was Chest and Back, and I brought my little brother along with me to workout with my regular workout partner, Zack. Therefore, this time, my little brother felt the full blunt of an ALL-OUT session. He hung in there and heart is all I ever ask for.
Flat Db Press, super-set, One Arm Db Rows
100lbs Db's x 15 reps, super-set, 100lbs Db's x 15 reps (each arm)
110lbs Db's x 12 reps, super-set, 110lbs Db's x 12 reps (e.a.)
115lbs Db's x 8 reps, super-set, 115lbs Db's x 10 reps (e.a.)
Incline Db Press, super-set, Incline Double Db Rows
85lbs Db's x 12 reps, super-set, 85lbs Db's x 12 reps
90lbs Db's x 10 reps, super-set, 90lbs Db's x 10 reps
95lbs Db's x 8 reps, super-set, 95lbs Db's x 10 reps
Smith, Incline Press, super-set, Machine T-Rows
185lbs x 20 reps, 135lbs x 15 reps
225lbs x 12 reps, 185lbs x 15 reps
240lbs x 10 reps, 225lbs x 12 reps
Body Weight Pull Ups, super-set, Body Weight Dips
8 reps, super-set, 15 reps
8 reps, super-set, 12 reps
6 reps, super-set 10 reps
Machine Pull Overs, super-set, Body Weight Push Ups
150lbs x 12 reps, super-set, 20 reps
150lbs x 10 reps, super-set, 20 reps
150lbs x 8 reps, super-set, 20 reps
Needless to say, we were all physically dead. I have to say that the White Flood has yet to disappoint.
Pre-Gym intensity: No restlessness, but a sense of sheer confidence in performing something above & beyond today.
Intra-set and inter-set, were terrific. I was drenched and super-setting "main stage" compound movements with large muscle groups is out of this world exhausting, but I never felt over-whelmed.
Post workout. Although I am physically dead and dying, mentally, I'm alert and well. Great stuff today. I finally got my epic workout in.
Great to be back. There's nothing like walking out of the gym feeling proud of what you just accomplished.No restlessness + sheer confidence in the gym = a very common side effect of supplementing with White Flood ! Never feeling over-whelmed, and instead ready for every damn rep and set is not much of a downside either ! :head:
And it's damn good to see ya back in action, homie !! :duel:
Hells yeah!Great to be back. There's nothing like walking out of the gym feeling proud of what you just accomplished.
I used to do HIT with my own little tweaks. The driving premise behind Mentzer's HIT was "true" muscle failure. Traditional bodybuilding, meaning high volume, exhausts the muscle groups concentric strength. What you'll notice is that even after you fatigue concentrically, you can still hold the weight steady (without joint lock) and on top of that, you can slowly control its decent. Here we step into Isometric strength and eccentric strength. Side Note: Eccentric strength generates greater force then concentric strength, the hierarchy of muscle force is eccentric, isometric and then concentric. Quick analogy, if you are unable to curl a 60lbs Db, you would still be able to hold it steady at the top of the contraction for a time and you could definitely resist the decent of that 60lbs Db (that you couldn't curl at all) at less then free fall speed, mostly likely quite slowly. That's just a quick self test to prove the hierarchy of strength to yourself.I've always enjoyed MM's books and HIT style of lifting. Few people can grasp what it takes to put out that kind of intensity... they just aren't used to it. White FLOOD definitely helps in that arena tho!
Will be interested to hear any reports of DOMs after this one!
Looks like I'm hosting an HIT seminar here.Very interested. Im gonna grab a bag of rice cakes (no popcorn for me) and watch as this gets more interesting.
I used to do HIT with my own little tweaks. The driving premise behind Mentzer's HIT was "true" muscle failure. Traditional bodybuilding, meaning high volume, exhausts the muscle groups concentric strength. What you'll notice is that even after you fatigue concentrically, you can still hold the weight steady (without joint lock) and on top of that, you can slowly control its decent. Here we step into Isometric strength and eccentric strength. Side Note: Eccentric strength generates greater force then concentric strength, the hierarchy of muscle force is eccentric, isometric and then concentric. Quick analogy, if you are unable to curl a 60lbs Db, you would still be able to hold it steady at the top of the contraction for a time and you could definitely resist the decent of that 60lbs Db (that you couldn't curl at all) at less then free fall speed, mostly likely quite slowly. That's just a quick self test to prove the hierarchy of strength to yourself.
Back to Mike Mentzer's HIT and my own tweak. Although MM talks about these concepts, his HIT style primarily targets the concentric and eccentric. My own tweak of what i used to do and what I did last night, wasn't exactly a 30 sec negative as I noted. I would push or pull the high load weight, until I concentrically exhausted my muscle, meaning I could not longer complete one more rep (you have to determine this the rep before the last of course) and at the end of that final rep, I would hold it statically, squeeze the weight at full contraction as long as I can, until my isometric strength was exhausted and at that heavy weight, the weight will naturally begin to forcefully go into a negative. At that point I resist with all I can until I was eccentrically exhausted. Therefore, exhausting my muscles concentrically, isometrically and eccentrically, which I thought was a more accurate description of Mentzer's "true muscle failure" premise. It's brutal.
With all that said, I prefer the traditional high volume style in general. High volume is also more effective at building muscle, however, I still believe "optimal" hypertrophy in the long run comes through variation, so I find it beneficial to go back and forth from upping the strength base to upping the volume. The sole purpose strength serves for a bodybuilder, is so that you can lift that greater at the higher volume for maximal hypertrophy.
I only warm up extensively prior to my first couple exercises. HIT warms up the body rather quickly and after that, my warm ups are more so just to get my muscles familiar with the new angles and ROM.Good ol' HIT-training ! Way to change up the scheme of things, bro ! How many warm-up sets do you utilize prior to each all-out set for the different exercises ?
Thanks, bud :thumbsup:Dense log, Volcom! Amazing!
Volcom has that effect on occasion....scratch that...Everyday!!.Right on man, AM has that effect on occasion.
I appreciate the kind words bro.Volcom has that effect on occasion....scratch that...Everyday!!.
You deserve the credit Pacsun!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to VolcomX311 again.
Damn, Volcom, that post had me hypnotized with focus ! The added background study on the HIT training style has inspired me to take a deeper look in to it. One beastly trap work-out right there, my friend ! I've found myself getting carried away with trap work lately as well, because I'm' finally seeing their positive physical changes - both in appearance/size and in terms of strength.
But just to get this straight, you did a couple of all out sets on the same exercise . . so you're saying each set lasted 45 seconds ? Did you have a certain time-frame to reach on each portion of the lift ? (sorry if I missed that part). When I did HIT training, I'd do two all-out sets, utilizing 3-5 second negatives, 1-3 second rest on bottom, explosive upward portion and a 3-5 second peak contraction . . but I'd only get about 6-10 reps each set. So does your time-frame on each portion vary from set to set ? (damn, I think I confused myself with that question . . )
Great workout dude. You have some serious drive/focus.
Hahaha. I love when that happens. Makes you look forward to the day after11:23pm, DOMS has already kicked in from this afternoon's chest workout.
What happened?It totally sucks about Norwegian man, damn. That really, really sucks.
I hope he doesn't leave permanently.
He got in a heated discussion/argument with an Administrator and was sent down the road. It really sucked.What happened?
Yeah I just got done reading the posts, this blows, I might have just been having a bad day, or be stressed about something, I don't know why he just flew off the handle like that <sigh> I hope this is just a "timeout"...He got in a heated discussion/argument with an Administrator and was sent down the road. It really sucked.