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The testers were running the tests blind, you and the public won’t be. Ingredients will be released before this goes on saleSo Vectors magical ingredients are salt and pepper extract lol? Jk, but seriously how can anyone get excited about putting unknown ingredients in their body? I won't even give this a second thought until I know what's in it. This isn't like the affordable care act is it? By it, then we'll tell you what's it it?
The ingredients are unknown right now but will be known very soon with a full write up.So Vectors magical ingredients are salt and pepper extract lol? Jk, but seriously how can anyone get excited about putting unknown ingredients in their body? I won't even give this a second thought until I know what's in it. This isn't like the affordable care act is it? By it, then we'll tell you what's it it?
I believe Brundel said we have never before seen any of these 3 plants used in the bodybuilding supplement World...in any form. We have seen rhaponticum carthamoides extracts utilized many times...Just putting it out there. Does Vector have Rhaponticum carthamoides?
There goes my only guess.. lolI believe Brundel said we have never before seen any of these 3 plants used in the bodybuilding supplement World...in any form. We have seen rhaponticum carthamoides extracts utilized many times...
Well chances are that none of us got any closer...:wink1:There goes my only guess.. lol
Good Question.How will anabolic #2 compare to anabolic #1? brundel
Have you/will you run blood work on the 10 testers, to see what effect, if any, on the testers’ testosterone and estrogen levels?It is not- Rhaponticum carthamoides
I do think one of the plants will be somewhat familiar. 2 Will likely not be.
What will be most interesting is not necessarily the plant itself but whats in them. For example green tea (Camellia sinensis) is very common. Used worldwide and for thousands of years but epicatechin, extracted from green tea, is not common or wasnt when Follidrone was first released.
So you may or may not be super surprised with the plants themselves. One is used in other products Ive seen at least once the others I have not seen in bodybuilding products. They may or may not be.
What will be interesting is the chemical constituents we are targeting. Because there is some real magic in this stuff.
Ill start releasing trial data soon.
or any effect on lipid levels or kidneys/liver etc.? i think there is always a possibility for such sides with new ingredients and they dont HAVE to be noticed acutely.Have you/will you run blood work on the 10 testers, to see what effect, if any, on the testers’ testosterone and estrogen levels?
I find Strong to be good at shipping to uk, normally have items within a week of ordering.I ordered from Strong once and shipment to Europe was super fast since they shipped from NJ or NY. In less time that others ship out of US, Strong parcel was already in Europe.
Maybe also offer as pre sale stack of Vector + FD2 if these two work so well together hmm.
100% correct, SSS is far more efficient than NVI find Strong to be good at shipping to uk, normally have items within a week of ordering.
But steeper on prices, for better prices and if willing to wait i find nutriverse the best.100% correct, SSS is far more efficient than NV
+ 1 cannot wait for feedback on this new product and also the ingredients / compounds used. I still have around 4 months of FD2 and would be hoping to stack this with it.Let's hope brundel starts releasing some testers data this weekend on Vector as I'm getting very impatient.
If some testers were gaining 12lbs on 100% of the dose and BLR are utilising 200% on release then this supplement is gonna rock the bodybuilding world.
Put us out of our misery brundel you are killing us!
Anabolic 2 so far consists of 3 direct androgen binding compounds.How will anabolic #2 compare to anabolic #1? brundel
or any effect on lipid levels or kidneys/liver etc.? i think there is always a possibility for such sides with new ingredients and they dont HAVE to be noticed acutely.
but im pretty sure you wont release anything that could bring unwanted side effects
We have run some hormonal labs already yes. Everything looks good. Thats all Ill say for now.Have you/will you run blood work on the 10 testers, to see what effect, if any, on the testers’ testosterone and estrogen levels?
or any effect on lipid levels or kidneys/liver etc.? i think there is always a possibility for such sides with new ingredients and they dont HAVE to be noticed acutely.
but im pretty sure you wont release anything that could bring unwanted side effects
I will start to release some data this weekend. Not a ton but just enough to drool onLet's hope brundel starts releasing some testers data this weekend on Vector as I'm getting very impatient.
If some testers were gaining 12lbs on 100% of the dose and BLR are utilising 200% on release then this supplement is gonna rock the bodybuilding world.
Put us out of our misery brundel you are killing us!
Agree. I much prefer to order from Nutriverse. I usually hold off on all products until they hit Nutriverse.But steeper on prices, for better prices and if willing to wait i find nutriverse the best.
+ 1 would give us something.Hey brundel give us a few nuggets of info
I sure as hell hope you're not planning on using the same things I am...because if you are and you beat me to it you are going to make me look like damn copy-cat. LOL.Anabolic 2 so far consists of 3 direct androgen binding compounds.
Anabolic 1 has a host of anabolic mechanisms. Im not going to say anything. For another week or so
Great minds think alike. I don't think it'd be a bad thing, obviously epi products are getting lots of love from different companies.I sure as hell hope you're not planning on using the same things I am...because if you are and you beat me to it you are going to make me look like damn copy-cat. LOL.
Lets hope notI sure as hell hope you're not planning on using the same things I am...because if you are and you beat me to it you are going to make me look like damn copy-cat. LOL.
Yeah. People don't realize how many POWERFUL chemical constituents are found in plants. The problems is that isolating and purifying them can be VERY expensive...and synthesizing them from scratch usually costs even more. I've encountered AT LEAST 15-20 compounds I would absolutely LOVE to use in various products, but the cost to produce even a few of them would be outrageous.Lets hope not
I ordered the raws today. So we will be set for release in approx 2-3 weeks max.
I can say that even if the ingredients are similar for them to be the same would be nearly impossible.
Plus I am....really working it. Meaning we are targeting specific chemical constituents so even if you used the same plant the extracts would be different.
There are not readily available extracts even similar. Its been a major pain in my ass. BUt its worth it.
You should see my notes....Hundreds of pages.Yeah. People don't realize how many POWERFUL chemical constituents are found in plants. The problems is that isolating and purifying them can be VERY expensive...and synthesizing them from scratch usually costs even more. I've encountered AT LEAST 15-20 compounds I would absolutely LOVE to use in various products, but the cost to produce even a few of them would be outrageous.
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