Being that the USP version is a specific extract, would there be any difference b/w the two as far as results go?
Has anyone that has tried both noticed any difference?
Has anyone that has tried both noticed any difference?
Can anybody confirm this?if your talking about the bulk cissus from Nutraplanet i believe that IS usplabs cissus.
i can confirm haha.....yes it isCan anybody confirm this?
wait, fracture healing as in healing a broken bone faster?!??!USP cissus = anabolic + pain relief + fracture healing + strengthened stomach lining
Bulk cissus = pain relief + fracture healing + strengthened stomach lining
god i wish that usps would jsut have there own bulk powder website as this is a very small niche of people that buy it.not everyone is a fan of capping and swallowing powders ,loving nutraplanet right now with all its powders and capping equipment
for sure. thats bogus that the powder is gone for good.I'm with you on that..I also wish there was more yg to go around haha...
usp bulk cissus is diffrent as far how looks, taste, smells, and its soluble it is.
I have a deal in the works with a company. I really would love to work with nutra with cissus, but it will not work out.god i wish that usps would jsut have there own bulk powder website as this is a very small niche of people that buy it.not everyone is a fan of capping and swallowing powders ,loving nutraplanet right now with all its powders and capping equipment
The bulk guys will claim that its my marketing gimmic...So why does it look different?
The industry is full of liars so they just group me by association. I am trying hard to change the standard..it may take a lifetime.lol
so.....
wait, fracture healing as in healing a broken bone faster?!??!
That would explain why my doc was shocked at the amount my hand healed after a week.
it's all in the extraction process tsb, how many times do i have to tell ya!! :stick:Just about to post in NP for any feedback on bulk cissus and seen your thread.I have used about 5 bottles of USP cissus and had nothing but great results from it. Last week I started on the bulk cissus and currently using 2 teaspoons per day and I am starting to think that it is nowhere as potent as the USP stuff.Not getting the same results.
Maybe I need to up the dose some more?
BULK cissus 2 tspoons per day = 6400mg.
USP cissus 6 caps per day = 3660mg
maybe u need to start working on your lower lats, or start thinking about getting some illegals from team sausage, just remember the spider's waiting in the shadows:icon_lol:Just about to post in NP for any feedback on bulk cissus and seen your thread.I have used about 5 bottles of USP cissus and had nothing but great results from it. Last week I started on the bulk cissus and currently using 2 teaspoons per day and I am starting to think that it is nowhere as potent as the USP stuff.Not getting the same results.
Maybe I need to up the dose some more?
BULK cissus 2 tspoons per day = 6400mg.
USP cissus 6 caps per day = 3660mg
I"m sure your right B. It would be nice to see some more feedback from other bulk cissus users.it's all in the extraction process tsb, how many times do i have to tell ya!! :stick:
I"m sure your right B. It would be nice to see some more feedback from other bulk cissus users.
And when is the stronger version going to be available???
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/custom-capsule/54907-your-cissus.html post number 8 has feedbackI"m sure your right B. It would be nice to see some more feedback from other bulk cissus users.
And when is the stronger version going to be available???
I chink you wong. Sowwy.i thought thr difference was USP's extract for Ketosterones was 6% and Symmetry was like 10%(I'm probaly off by 1 % give or take) ....while the bulk everyone else has is 4%....just take more of the bulk
Cissus RX is 5% ketosterones whilst Symmetry is 4 sterones extracted from Cissus Quad. specifically for their anabolic activity.i thought thr difference was USP's extract for Ketosterones was 6% and Symmetry was like 10%(I'm probaly off by 1 % give or take) ....while the bulk everyone else has is 4%....just take more of the bulk
Why is USP Labs more anabolic?USP cissus = anabolic + pain relief + fracture healing + strengthened stomach lining
Bulk cissus = pain relief + fracture healing + strengthened stomach lining
Is the (supposed) anabolic advantage of USP's specifically because of the ketosterones? Wouldnt you be better of just taking MORE of the cheaper bulk extraction anyway? It's cost effective and you get more Cissus in the end. I hardly see how a slightly better extraction trumps literally doubling the dose.Cissus RX is 5% ketosterones whilst Symmetry is 4 sterones extracted from Cissus Quad. specifically for their anabolic activity.
I'm not sure where I was marketing anything, or addressing the anabolic activity of our Cissus compared to a bulk Cissus product, but now that you have brought it up I will.Why is USP Labs more anabolic?
Is the (supposed) anabolic advantage of USP's specifically because of the ketosterones? Wouldnt you be better of just taking MORE of the cheaper bulk extraction anyway? It's cost effective and you get more Cissus in the end. I hardly see how a slightly better extraction trumps literally doubling the dose.
I understand the extraction is superior, but HOW much of a real world advantage does this give us? How "anabolic" are we talking here?
Someone lay it down no BS. Spare us the marketing...
You get a kick out of trying to talk down to people on message boards don't you? Heres a clue, WE ARE YOUR CUSTOMERS. You're a lowly rep. Take your ego down a notch.I'm not sure where I was marketing anything, or addressing the anabolic activity of our Cissus compared to a bulk Cissus product, but now that you have brought it up I will.
The real world advantage as you eloquently put it lies in the extraction itself. If it is not the same ketosterones than the same effect will not be reached irregardless of your dosage. If it is say half of the same extraction then yes doubling the dose will give you the same benefit.
You are right, you do not see how a slightly better extraction would 'trump literally double the dose'. As I have stated, without the same ketosterones then the same benefit would not be reached.
Alpine, you are obviously antagonistic, with the need to enter into every discussion with the point of arguing. That is fine. Your initial question was filled with attitude, asking questions which you obviously had arrogantly convinced yourself you already knew and I responded in kind. You asked me to spare you 'marketing' which I found amusing because I was never 'marketing' in the first place, though you continue to make this assertion. You are wrong.You get a kick out of trying to talk down to people on message boards don't you? Heres a clue, WE ARE YOUR CUSTOMERS. You're a lowly rep. Take your ego down a notch.
All I asked was, WHAT makes USP's extraction more anabolic. Obviously thats the Keto's. OK, so HOW MUCH of a "real world" (in our body, not on paper) anabolic effect are we talking about? A lot of things can clearly be considered anabolic. That doesn't mean they all lead to a pronounced anabolic effect in our systems. And that is precisely what has been insinuated here. That is what I am questioning. I guess its safe to assume that non USP cissus has ZERO anabolic impact? That is, If ANY of it really has an anabolic impact in the first first place. This is why I asked for a division in marketing and science.
Is this slight (how slight?) advantage worth the premium we pay above normal bulk cissus? And that is why I'm asking for a no BS response. What you gave me was more BS I already knew and with a touch of elitist tone - How Nice. You also seem to miss the fact that I am an outspoken FAN of cissus. I am not trying to tear down your product. All I ask for is a little respect and some straight answers.
Mulletsoldier, You don't represent USP well and I don't mind telling you.
Well, I could and would call you a ****ing ******* if I wanted to, irregardless of what I had to lose, but I just chose not to.Awesome. You have managed to reply twice now with comments that have absolutely no semblance of any real meat and potatoes answer.
I suspect you like to see & read the eloquence of your ever so carefully constructed retorts far too much. You aren't a world renowned chemist. You arent a biochem expert. Just don't talk down to your customers when they ask simple questions. That is all....
I dont start drama or act antagonistically. I just call it like I see it. I'm not afraid to speak out on anyone or anything. Unlike you, I have nothing to lose.
Keep up the good work. I'm done with this thread.
Our current extract is 5%.i thought thr difference was USP's extract for Ketosterones was 6% and Symmetry was like 10%(I'm probaly off by 1 % give or take) ....while the bulk everyone else has is 4%....just take more of the bulk
lol....Mullet,
If by chance you need some lube to get your foot out of Alpine's ass, drop me a line.
Our current extract is 5%.
We have a stronger extract (between 10 and 20%) on the way right now.
Let us know how it goes for her, carpal tunnel is terrible...In fact I just had a bottle of Cissus RX sent to my fiance to help her carpal tunnel pain. I chose USPLabs over the bulk because I feel based on my experience that it has a greater chance of helping relieve her pain.