So is there any difference? Both are from PA, but I can't find label facts on Ur. Which one?
Does anyone have any feed back on any Prototype topicals?
Does anyone have any feed back on any Prototype topicals?
What have you noticed from it?I have been taking Pump Spray at 40 sprays a day for about 6 weeks and I haven't noticed any fat loss. I think the higher dosage of Ursolic Acid in UR spray would help.
I can't recommend Pump Spray for fat loss.
I completely echo thisI have been taking Pump Spray at 40 sprays a day for about 6 weeks and I haven't noticed any fat loss. I think the higher dosage of Ursolic Acid in UR spray would help. I can't recommend Pump Spray for fat loss.
Not much of anything. Maybe a little muscle fullness. I have been taking only 1/2 of the recommended dose though.What have you noticed from it?
UR is very dose dependent. So with pump spray having less UR, you definitely need twice a day application. I noticed slow yet steady and consistent fat loss with UR spray. Not as much with pump sprayNot much of anything. Maybe a little muscle fullness. I have been taking only 1/2 of the recommended dose though.
I have bumped it up to 40 sprays twice a day for the past 1.5 weeks. I'm curious if that will give any more benefits or not.
I have yet to see results from it so for me it is a waste.90 for 6 weeks of a product that works isn't bad. Think about it, plenty of people pay 120+ to run anabeta+erase or 10 diff pump products you name it
His point is you need to use full doses. Whether it is too much money is up to the individual.I have yet to see results from it so for me it is a waste.
I hear you, especially on the cheaper. That is the one rough part is price.I have been taking full dosage for 1.5 weeks and notice no difference in results.
For fat loss there are cheaper, more effective products.
Fair enough. It took about 3 weeks for mine to kick in and them it worked greatI have been taking full dosage for 1.5 weeks and notice no difference in results.
For fat loss there are cheaper, more effective products.
I had a similar experience. Using UR now, but just started second bottle.Fair enough. It took about 3 weeks for mine to kick in and them it worked great
I have another unopened bottle. Hopefully I will notice something after doing 40 sprays 2 times a day.Fair enough. It took about 3 weeks for mine to kick in and them it worked great
Can I ask what your current bf is at or an approximation?I have another unopened bottle. Hopefully I will notice something after doing 40 sprays 2 times a day.
About 15 percent, would like to get down to 10 or 11.Can I ask what your current bf is at or an approximation?
No I have used it with good results. I just believe UR is better for fat lossSo is Pump Spray a fail? Seems like it.
So how high of a body fat makes the UR effective then? Like 15? or more?Honestly, I would go with UR if at somewhat higher BF because the Pump/vascular part won't be noticed so much. If already somewhat cut then I think you could get some sick effects from pump spray.
Just my two cents.
What kind of results did you expereience?No I have used it with good results. I just believe UR is better for fat loss
It is effective at any, what I mean is the vascular aspect of Pump Spray may be lost in someone at say 15 or so. Where as someone who is lets say at lower bf% they could really get some benefit from the vascular part of pumpspray. Just look at TruthorNothing's pic. Hope that cleared it up.So how high of a body fat makes the UR effective then? Like 15? or more?
40 sprays in am and 40 sprays in pm? 80 sprays ED?I have another unopened bottle. Hopefully I will notice something after doing 40 sprays 2 times a day.
Where did you read that?What kind of results did you expereience?
From what I've read, seems like the product doesn't really produce a "pump effect" and if you're saying fat loss is better with UR...
It is effective at any but like previously mentioned, vascularity won't be nearly as pronounced at higher bf. Also, the fat loss aspect takes longer to notice at a higher bfSo how high of a body fat makes the UR effective then? Like 15? or more?
Yep, that's how I dose it.40 sprays in am and 40 sprays in pm? 80 sprays ED?
X2...although I don't actually count after the first couple times. Just did it to get an idea at first.Yep, that's how I dose it.
Do you rub it in as well?X2...although I don't actually count after the first couple times. Just did it to get an idea at first.
YesDo you rub it in as well?
Answered above. I don't even know if you have to bc it honestly dries extremely fast. I kinda just do a quick once over.Do you rub it in as well?
The vascularity enhancing effect can be obscured with excess bf, I am the fattest I've been in a while due to some serious dirty bulking I am probably approaching 15% and I can still tell a difference when using the Pump Spray, especially while using carbs. I have not noticed a difference between UR and Pump Spray and UR Spray regarding fat loss. Ur Spray has 25 percent more Arginine Ursolic Acetate than Pump Spray as you have to make room for the Tri Acetyl Adenosine. I just spray heavy when I use the Pump Spray. I use the two interchangeably. The determining factor for me is what is in stock at the time. I do get a better pump with the Pump Spray, especially if you add about 25 grams of carbs pr workout then my pumps are skin splitting... perhaps My next bi or tri workout I'll get the GF to take before and afters to demonstrate said effect. I am out of Pump Spray and am awaiting a new shipment. I hate being without UR/Pump Spray, I can tell a major difference. With the Pump Spray I have also notice increased endurance and am able to complete more sets and reps. That makes sense given the properties of adenosineI have been taking Pump Spray at 40 sprays a day for about 6 weeks and I haven't noticed any fat loss. I think the higher dosage of Ursolic Acid in UR spray would help. I can't recommend Pump Spray for fat loss.
Yes Schizm is correct its just in case you are in need aof an addition sprayer in case of a clogThanks for the info... now I will let this thread rest in peace lol
You won't be dissapointed it works as advertised and then some. There a host of other benefits from use besides fat loss and muscle gain.Just ordered a 2 pack yesterday... I have around medium hopes lol to avoid any unnecessary dissapointment on my end if it doesn't work as well as I hope
If you can only get one go for the pump spray, if you can afford it go UR-Spray and TAA caps, TAA is my second favorite supp currently good pump even while carb depleted and an undeniable power boost.i would say pump spray is a better value for the money. it only has 75% of the UA amount of UR spray in it but then it has also TAA which otherwise you had to buy separately. TAA is a superb addition to the ursolic acid because it does a lot for strength. Im at the end of my first pump spray bottle and must say its one of the rare supps besides ArA that gives effects that cannot be attributed to placebo.
I agree, if one can afford it go with UR and TAA but pump spray is still effective.If you can only get one go for the pump spray, if you can afford it go UR-Spray and TAA caps, TAA is my second favorite supp currently good pump even while carb depleted and an undeniable power boost.
I second the notion plus endurance to break thru some mental blocks that we incur every now and then,I agree, if one can afford it go with UR and TAA but pump spray is still effective.
TAA gives a much different pump then other pump products. I enjoy it immensely.
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