Deff RAGEIs it the rage? Or just in general?
Deff RAGEIs it the rage? Or just in general?
****s with your head. Anybody who takes tren will have mental sides...Expanding on what Dma378 said, Trenbolone is an amazingly powerful drug in both anabolic effects and risks/side effects. Health markers all tend to take a significant hit on Tren. It is definitely not a hormone for beginners or even those who aren’t in very good physical and mental health.
Low test, moderate tren... Tren is 500/500 Anabolic/Androgenic. Test is 100/100. I'm pretty sure test is there to maintain your mood lol.So for a tren run, to minimize sides, would it be higher test low tren or higher tren low test?
Low test, moderate tren... Tren is 500/500 Anabolic/Androgenic. Test is 100/100. I'm pretty sure test is there to maintain your mood lol.So for a tren run, to minimize sides, would it be higher test low tren or higher tren low test?
I’ve tried 2g about 1-1.5hrs prior. May need to play with dosing, there’s a definite sweet spot.and how is that? dosage and timing
I run tren with only about 100mg of test per week and do not get many sides at all besides massive boost in sex drive and big gains. No mental sides noticed.****s with your head. Anybody who takes tren will have mental sides...
100mg per week is good. Less can often times be more. I wish more would atleast try a cycle with less to see how it works. I mean, Tren is one of those drugs that if you feed it with good nutritious food, it’ll do some growing. Doesn’t take 500+ mg to get that result.Low test, moderate tren... Tren is 500/500 Anabolic/Androgenic. Test is 100/100. I'm pretty sure test is there to maintain your mood lol.
I'm not going to tell you how much tren I use, I will just get laughed at. I'm extremely sensitive to the compound. I have ace, enanthate, and tren hex, but there on the shelf.
I decided when its time to be Jekyll/Hide lol.
I can run parabolan (tren hex) at 100mg per week and see results. Laugh it up
Dude?! Your absolute statements are growing old quick.****s with your head. Anybody who takes tren will have mental sides...
Hi, brother! Nice to see you again! No experience with tren here.Has anyone had any successful runs with tren using vitamin b6 to control prolactin sides? I have read the studies and personal experiences on other sites but would like to hear if there are any personal experiences here since I have been a member here for some time now.
Whats going on gramps? I have been more active as of lately on the forum. Trying to setup some future runs. How have you been?Hi, brother! Nice to see you again! No experience with tren here.
I tried to control prolactin with B6 and mucuna extract (Inhibit-P) while on NPP. I lactated anyways. My guess is, you'll need bromo, caber or prami to effectively control prolactin.
Also, B6 seems to be toxic in higher dosages.
Went through some shoulder injuries but recovered quickly using my BPC/PEG-MGF protocol, even my knees got better, I'm squatting again!Whats going on gramps? I have been more active as of lately on the forum. Trying to setup some future runs. How have you been?
Yeah I was looking at a similar setup but am trying not to use any caber or prami. Some have needed it and others haven’t. I am a firm believer in trying to do the most with less especially with a harsher compound like tren. Just trying to piece everything together because it will be my first with tren.Went through some shoulder injuries but recovered quickly using my BPC/PEG-MGF protocol, even my knees got better, I'm squatting again!
I'm almost done with testing everything there is, LOL. I respond badly to most roids. Now using only low dosages of Test/U with some Proviron, feeling great!
If you plan on using Tren, my friend swears by using it with low test (175mg/w) and Masteron (600mg/w), he said that he has almost no sides like that.
He uses 0.5mg caber eod too.
Everyone is different, if you start low dose and work your way up, you'll find out. Keep me informed how it went for you!Yeah I was looking at a similar setup but am trying not to use any caber or prami. Some have needed it and others haven’t. I am a firm believer in trying to do the most with less especially with a harsher compound like tren. Just trying to piece everything together because it will be my first with tren.
would t3 be necessary to use with tren, since t3 crush thyroid? or that's bro scienceI generally err on the side of using T3 and AI’s to deal with prolactin sides. Other than that, find a product that is pure vit B-6 IM preparation. Given that IM is much higher in bioavailability, I’d say IF Vit B was to do anything to combat prolactin sides, this would be a good way to go.
https://vitaminb12direct.com/shop/checkout/
T3 is a kind of animal of its own. I would leave it alone, not needed in a tren cycle and may complicate it all. If used above body produced dosage (it's what you do when using it), it stops own thyroid hormone production. Apparently, even after very long use, your thyroid bounces back again, from what I know.would t3 be necessary to use with tren, since t3 crush thyroid? or that's bro science
Me too, LOL. Have today an appointment to get a full blood lab. I just cant figure out by myself if E2 is too high -or low. When the penis points to my feets, its either one -or the other.I generally err on the side of using T3 and AI’s to deal with prolactin sides. Other than that, find a product that is pure vit B-6 IM preparation. Given that IM is much higher in bioavailability, I’d say IF Vit B was to do anything to combat prolactin sides, this would be a good way to go.
https://vitaminb12direct.com/shop/checkout/
The way I can tell the difference is basically ---> low E2 = anxiety | high E2 = bit more lethargic than usualMe too, LOL. Have today an appointment to get a full blood lab. I just cant figure out by myself if E2 is too high -or low. When the penis points to my feets, its either one -or the other.
Looking to use tren ace and test cyp. Not sure if I am going to through in mast e and abombs as well. What ancillaries did you run with your tren run?Also the first 2 weeks on tren ace were intense
Felt weird sweats and chills
But all that went away
Same thing with test prop.
I get intense urges to piss for the first few weeks but it goes away
I am definitely staying away from any type of thyroid drugs. Just don't feel like fcuking with any of that siht.
Tren can inhibit thyroid function and why some use 50mcgT3 is a kind of animal of its own. I would leave it alone, not needed in a tren cycle and may complicate it all. If used above body produced dosage (it's what you do when using it), it stops own thyroid hormone production. Apparently, even after very long use, your thyroid bounces back again, from what I know.
Thank you, bro! One never stops learning something new!Tren can inhibit thyroid function and why some use 50mcg
Yes, and you’ll likely eat more and stay leaner this way too. It is the proper drug for a recomp cycle, which is always the best cycle (for most of us anyway).That's so interesting.
I'm on t3 for the first time and the most noticeable effect is my chest.
It has tightened up my chest fabulously.
I don't have gyno/ lump or anything like that.
But weight loss on t3 has been so cosmetic its a trip
Just really tightening is the best way to describe it.
Just a total different look loosing 15lbs on t3 as opposed to loosing 15lbs not on t3.
I'm very glad I dabbled. Cool mild drug.
Other than fat loss and a little boost in energy sides are zero.
I'm on mk677 / ghrp /test 250mg
EQ300 / proviron
ExactlyYes, and you’ll likely eat more and stay leaner this way too. It is the proper drug for a recomp cycle, which is always the best cycle (for most of us anyway).
Combined with stuff like DNP (which I don’t recommend for beginners) and we’re talking 8-16oz of fat loss per day.
I usually don’t subscribe to your hyperbolic posts but I do think much of what you say is certainly true for yourself and in certain scenarios true for almost everyone else. This particular post I think it one that is true for almost all of us.These guys say "I don't notice any mental sides besides a huge increase in confidence and sex drive.
A huge increase in confidence would be a mental side effect. People were not meant to have a huge libido or a lot of confidence.
Too much confidence is the downfall of many great men.
Anyways, legit tren will have side effects. Nothing, nothing at all, is side effect free.
Especially when it come to injecting foreign compounds into your body without a doctor monitoring. No doctor will prescribe tren.
Well as for me I don't have issues with my mind bro.These guys say "I don't notice any mental sides besides a huge increase in confidence and sex drive.
A huge increase in confidence would be a mental side effect. People were not meant to have a huge libido or a lot of confidence.
Too much confidence is the downfall of many great men.
Anyways, legit tren will have side effects. Nothing, nothing at all, is side effect free.
Especially when it come to injecting foreign compounds into your body without a doctor monitoring. No doctor will prescribe tren.
hairygrandpa.For deeper understanding, research the various hormones that have a feedback loop with prolactin.
The two that I know of are T3 & Dopamine. Most people go the dopamine-agonist route, which I usually stay away from. I don’t like messing with dopamine levels mainly because It is playing with a type of fire that I don’t want to play with any more than I already would by taking Tren. It’s hard enough to recover mentally and physically from Tren since the comedown is so large.
As for T3, the reason is merely because Tren likely suppresses conversion of T4 to T3. It has been verified in animals such as sheep and we know that it is not out of the realm for sex hormones to impact metabolic hormones.
I usually take 25mcg/day as a starting point and if I were not trying to get contest ready, I’d probably hover around 25-37.5mcg/day, which is really just around physiological doses. Most people need to hit 75-150mcg/day before you are truly taking in supraphysiological thyroid levels. This varies greatly from person to person because of absorption issues.
The fear of thyroid drugs is unwarranted. You should be way more concerned with regular consumption of alcohol, the various toxins associated with the AAS and most of all, the long term damage AAS causes within the heart and cardiovascular system in general such as LVH, arteriosclerosis, hardening of arteries, damage to kidneys via high BP, etc etc.
Mind you, anything over 115/75 is considered “high” and is causing at least minimal amounts of damage long term.
Thyroid glands are something that MUST work in order to survive. It won’t just stop working forever and always just because you temporarily gave it a reason to backslide for 5-10 weeks. Generally speaking, it takes 2-5 weeks to fully recover. You do more damage to your thyroid system by going on a carbless diet for months on end than you do by supplementing small amounts of T3 to help keep your thyroid levels normal. The group of people who should tread carefully with thyroid use is women. Even then, most women end up needing thyroid medication or have thyroid issues if they had babies in their 30’s or are on round two or three of the baby-making process.
This doesn’t even consider the reality that you will likely double your lean tissue gains and double the fat loss if you combine T3 with Tren.
Breath...Well as for me I don't have issues with my mind bro.
I know I'm drunk wen I'm drunk
I know I'm on tren wen I'm on tren.
I realize I'm grumpy in the morning before I have coffee....because I'm addicted to coffee.
Just because you battle depression and anxiety please don't put that on me like its normal.
You know what my dad and his homeboys would have done to you if you told them you were feeling anxiety.
Those words gets tossed around too much by men these days.
If you got mental issues homie stay the **** away from drugs.
If your raged out and going nutts because somebody is taking to long to change lanes or something like that....
Well you got issues bro.
Its normal to feel emotions.
MOST of us can handle it. It's just feeling dude...its your mind control it.
Coffee has mental sides.
So does sex
Confidence and sex drive was MY personal side effects experienced on tren.
I'm just cruising right now , no tren at all, and your statements, the way you state them as FACT, has me more irritated than I have been in months.
I'm already over itBreath...
You do realize the world is full of already unstable individuals and likely a great percentage at the other end of this keyboard are borderline...soon to be in the headlines.
I've already seen a couple AM and other board guys in the news over the years. Good times
It wasn't me. The others knew about the T3 and Tren interaction. We have awesome members here, I recon!hairygrandpa.
fueled thanks bro for the knowledge, if i run injectable tren I'll run it with 25 mcg t3
I agree 100%. Beta blockers are something I personally use but because ACE-II’s actually help Kidney function while reducing BP, I usually recommend it first.
However, I did not know that it enhanced Beta receptors fat burners. I would have thought the opposite, but now that I think about it, going from clen for a few days to beta blockers for a few days might refresh the receptors. I know I have taken beta blockers when I accidentally overdosed fat burners in order to slow my heart rate down and lower my BP.
Well dang! That means I need to stock up, lol.fueledpassion
Metoprolol is a beta blocker that has the unique ability to block epinephrine from attaching to receptors in cardiac tissue...
Yup Thats what I hearWell dang! That means I need to stock up, lol.
Perhaps it would show benefits with Clen & Ephedrine.
You have any experience with Celiprolol? On paper it appears to be the holy grail for someone on cycleYup Thats what I hear
What would your daddy do? Like I said the over confidence from steroids is a mental side effect.Well as for me I don't have issues with my mind bro.
I know I'm drunk wen I'm drunk
I know I'm on tren wen I'm on tren.
I realize I'm grumpy in the morning before I have coffee....because I'm addicted to coffee.
Just because you battle depression and anxiety please don't put that on me like its normal.
You know what my dad and his homeboys would have done to you if you told them you were feeling anxiety.
Those words gets tossed around too much by men these days.
If you got mental issues homie stay the **** away from drugs.
If your raged out and going nutts because somebody is taking to long to change lanes or something like that....
Well you got issues bro.
Its normal to feel emotions.
MOST of us can handle it. It's just feeling dude...its your mind control it.
Coffee has mental sides.
So does sex
Confidence and sex drive was MY personal side effects experienced on tren.
I'm just cruising right now , no tren at all, and your statements, the way you state them as FACT, has me more irritated than I have been in months.
I've been here since 2006.Breath...
You do realize the world is full of already unstable individuals and likely a great percentage at the other end of this keyboard are borderline...soon to be in the headlines.
I've already seen a couple AM and other board guys in the news over the years. Good times
we all got issue. My HS age molestation and abuse from my alcoholic step father were kind of ducked me up.I'm not one to complain, but if being abused as a kid on the daily by two sherrifs, and two tours in Iraq, gave me depression and anxiety, well what can I do but deal with it? Not to mention a suicidal sister and drunk moms.
A lot of vets have mental issues. Do they stay away from drugs?
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