Key word, supplement.
Whats your best? It could be a product and/or ingredient.
Whats your best? It could be a product and/or ingredient.
Ummm.....it was a sodium usniate based fat burner in the early 2000's - probably came off the market around 2002-2004 after it caused some liver damage in people. You see it pop up once in a while here and there. It was super effective, but it apparently had its dangers and I was one of the lucky people who didn't need a liver transplant from it.20lb?! Jesus what's in it?
I tried 2-3 bottles of Ignit3 and honestly, I don't think it's as great as everyone says. I love OL, and the formula is an interesting formula - but for me it did very little. The stims were weak, appetite wasn't suppressed, and the effects were no different than I would normally see on the diet I was on.Well my favourite fat burner so far this year is ignit3 from ol. Lost 5kilos in 4 weeks with no change of diet and routine. I've got some bloodshr3d raw edition on the way and hoping for good things In The new year from that. Also I have one called dnpx from pro supps. That gave me some real hard beating of the heart but I felt amazing on it, however didn't take it long enough to see any fat loss, I've still got enough for a good months run so might be giving that a try soon. Also I've got some pharma grade t3 that I was planning to run with a Td trenavar cycle so plenty in my stash
Brite, Supernova and DCP are ALL phenomenal.My personal favorite is Brite from Evomuse. Haven't used a ton of different fat burners and never used EC so can't use that as a comparison. Write surprised me by how well it works, especially being stimulant free.
What Super-11 dose?I tried 2-3 bottles of Ignit3 and honestly, I don't think it's as great as everyone says. I love OL, and the formula is an interesting formula - but for me it did very little. The stims were weak, appetite wasn't suppressed, and the effects were no different than I would normally see on the diet I was on.
BUT - as I type that I realize maybe I should give it another run. I've been running Sup3r-11 and love it, but I've kicked the dose up really high and the reduced cortisol is making me realize that I may have had VERY high cortisol levels for a LOOONG time. Maybe so long I didn't realize. Since dropping cortisol, I've found that stims are hitting much harder (which you would expect) - maybe Ignit3 would work better now. Now I wanna run it again...great.
I've experimented with all kinds of dosing...125, 250, 375, 500 and 730 mg.What Super-11 dose?
At what point were there diminishing returns? Best dose for cost:benefit ratio?I've experimented with all kinds of dosing...125, 250, 375, 500 and 730 mg.
Ahhh...Hard to say. 250-500 is definitely a good space to be in. Even at 500 it is a bit expensive. At 730, the effects are much more pronounced, IMO and more androgenic...but we are talking 3 bottles/month at that point and it isn't cheap...I've never used other PHs but I suspect similar results at lower cost are available with other PHs. But I have not hit a point where taking more didn't produce additional benefits...not yet. It's merely a cost/benefit ratio.At what point were there diminishing returns? Best dose for cost:benefit ratio?
Damn right, I don't believe in spot reduction but, I will have to say this one maybe able to do just that.Invictus for me too. I simply can't stand stimulant based fat burners and Invictus has worked better than any non stim fat loss product I've tried.
Ummm.....it was a sodium usniate based fat burner in the early 2000's - probably came off the market around 2002-2004 after it caused some liver damage in people. You see it pop up once in a while here and there. It was super effective, but it apparently had its dangers and I was one of the lucky people who didn't need a liver transplant from it.
Apparently one of the formulas had phenylpropanolamine or {PPA), caffeine, yohimbine, diiodothyronine, and sodium usniate.I thought the original didn't have UA in there.
It was always the top one whichever formula it was.
Yes, that was it exactly. I remember the formula well. Adipokinetix was PPA, Caffeine and Yohimbine - that product was up near the best ever. Lipo was that plus Diiodothyronine and Sodium Usniate.Apparently one of the formulas had phenylpropanolamine or {PPA), caffeine, yohimbine, diiodothyronine, and sodium usniate.
According to the FDA website.
PPA is still one of my favorites of all time. PPA stated with Ephedrine killed hunger completely
You can lose a pound a week just by eating 500 calories below maintenance. That's a very weak, generic formula for fat loss and most all of your results came from diet and exerciseHave taken Extreme Fat Burner by Vital Life USA - made with natural components as green tea, guarana, garcinia camboja , etc Having less apetite and lossing a pound a week baught it at Amazon..
the OG oep / OG lean xtreme/ OG alphaT2DNP (it was legal and sold as fatburner)
EC aka the Timeless classic
OG oxyelite pro
OG alphamine
OL ignit3 and Bloodshr3d are new The Beatles
Ephedrine and caffeineCan anyone here suggest a fat burner that seems to work more universally and has a long life duration rather than short term boost in that after the first few days it doesn't work as well? I was using Hydroxycut elite hardcore mixed with twinlab yohimbine. I powerlift 3 times a week and do HIIT cardio on the off day's. Just trying to cut and drop body weight but don't want to lose muscle.
It seems ignit3 has alot of good reviews. can anyone make any suggestions that seems to work for most rather than just a select few?
Could be stacked with Evomuse Brite as it is non stim. Could also be stacked with Evomuse Supernova which is a topical I am currently using. There are a variety of options for add ons as long as stimulants are kept in check. OL is supposed to be coming out with a non stim thermo soon that may be able to be stacked also. Obviously if you have never used Ignit3 I would run it solo first.Can Ignit3 be stacked with another burner? if so,any recommendations?
this may sound limp around here,but im used to hydroxycut elite hardcore mixed in with prolabs yohimbine-L. the effect only lasted a week and that was with 2 in the morn,and 2 in the afternoon.Could be stacked with Evomuse Brite as it is non stim. Could also be stacked with Evomuse Supernova which is a topical I am currently using. There are a variety of options for add ons as long as stimulants are kept in check. OL is supposed to be coming out with a non stim thermo soon that may be able to be stacked also. Obviously if you have never used Ignit3 I would run it solo first.
I'm assuming by effects you mean the stimulant effect? You can always take a break from stimulants for a short time period and come back to them seeing if they hit harder for you after. If looking for changes in body composition, Brite is the best product I have used, stimulant or not. Given I have never used E/C or DNPthis may sound limp around here,but im used to hydroxycut elite hardcore mixed in with prolabs yohimbine-L. the effect only lasted a week and that was with 2 in the morn,and 2 in the afternoon.