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Obama campaigned on being the most transparent in history.

One of the first 2 executive orders his hiding his history, records and background. This was done on day 1.

Basically Obama's first priority was to bar the release of his birth records which up to today are impossible to obtain (original birth certificate, PDF file released by the administration do not count by far)

Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009
Presidential Records

“Sec.2
Notice Of Intent To Disclose Presidential Records
When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines providied by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege.”

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2009-01-26/pdf/E9-1712.pdf
Example of good source ^^^^

President Obama on day one protects his past and identity.
 
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As I've stated, who is behind your sources> said content.
(Credit below post to EasyEJL)

and the law is accurate

Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an
adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue
a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been
submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual
while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory
or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately
preceding the birth or adoption of such child.


http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur...-0017_0008.HTM
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Example # 2 Source to Hawaiian law providing actual law confirming Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant evidence of place of birth.
 

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Example # 2 Source to Hawaiian law providing actual law confirming Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant evidence of place of birth.
Example number 2 raises a question, however, it doesn't propose an answer. But we all know how you just LOVE your questions. Factcheck.org and the individuals behind it, in regards to their journalistic pedigree/education (check their bios) > bloggers at Breitbart.com and Infowars.
 
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Example number 2 raises a question, however, it doesn't propose an answer. But we all know how you just LOVE your questions. Factcheck.org and the individuals behind it, in regards to their journalistic pedigree/education (check their bios) > bloggers at Breitbart.com and Infowars.
it doesn't need an answer. It is proof that a hawaiian birth certificate is not proof of having been born in the US. It doesn't raise any questions, it invalidates the document that Obama presented as proof of being a natural born citizen.
 
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Now, for Example 3...the actual birth certificate. You can download this from the white-house here -----> http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

In 1961 they did not call African's "African" they would use either "negro or black."


Example #4

Source to back my claim: http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf

1961 Vital Statistics of the United States;
U. S. Dept. of Health Education, and Welfare;
Public Health Service;
National Center for Health Statistics;
National Vital Statistics Division;
Race and color
Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and “other nonwhite.”
The category “white” includes, in addition to persons reported as “white,” those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of “white” and “nonwhite” is used.
 

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Now, for Example 3...the actual birth certificate. You can download this from the white-house here -----> http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

In 1961 they did not call African's "African" they would use either "negro or black."





Wow you managed to unearth the truth from one word incorporated on the form. Unbelievable! While many have tried before you and failed, you've hinged your beliefs on one word. When is the press conference?
 
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Example # 5.

If you know how to use photoshop feel free to download the birth certificate that was made in "1961" and feel free to have some fun. Should take you only a minute if you know what you are doing.

 
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Wow you managed to unearth the truth from one word incorporated on the form. Unbelievable! While many have tried before you and failed, you've hinged your beliefs on one word. When is the press conference?
the form is irrelevant when the form is also issued to people born out of the country.
 
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it doesn't need an answer. It is proof that a hawaiian birth certificate is not proof of having been born in the US. It doesn't raise any questions, it invalidates the document that Obama presented as proof of being a natural born citizen.
Example # 6...listen to this man ^^^ is there a way to debate that he is wrong?

We have an alarming loop hole in the system in Hawaii that nullifies a birth certificate as proof of birth in the USA.

Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
 
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Example # 7

Place of birth on birth certificate is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” when in 1961 it was called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”. It didnt change until 1978 when the hospitals merged.

Read about the 1978 merger here ------> http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
 
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I know, I know...you stated that before. And again, still no proof of impropriety.
there isn't any need to prove impropriety. A hawaiian birth certificate is not proof of being born on US soil. Again, the onus isn't upon anyone else to prove Obama is not qualified, the onus is on him to prove he is qualified. And a hawaiian birth certificate is not proof of that.
 

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Example # 6...listen to this man ^^^ is there a way to debate that he is wrong?

We have an alarming loop hole in the system in Hawaii that nullifies a birth certificate as proof of birth in the USA.

Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Those are two entirely separate questions? Is there a loophole that may in fact allow for foreigners to be granted citizenship, and in fact was that used in this particular case. In any event, I'M 100% SURE YOU CANNOT ANSWER THE SECOND QUESTION. But again, you just LOVE RAISING QUESTIONS. Providing conclusive answers is whole other story.
 

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there isn't any need to prove impropriety. A hawaiian birth certificate is not proof of being born on US soil. Again, the onus isn't upon anyone else to prove Obama is not qualified, the onus is on him to prove he is qualified. And a hawaiian birth certificate is not proof of that.
Who exactly does he need to prove that to? And who exactly is asking this question beyond a specific subset of people? Arpaio rather than serving the needs of his county/community, is simply attempting to serve himself. The guy is a speck on the radar.
 
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Those are two entirely separate questions? Is there a loophole that may in fact allow for foreigners to be granted citizenship, and in fact was that used in this particular case. In any event, I'M 100% SURE YOU CANNOT ANSWER THE SECOND QUESTION. But again, you just LOVE RAISING QUESTIONS. Providing conclusive answers is whole other story.
Yes...this is what Arpaio's investigation discovered and its a national security threat that should be taken care of.

As for question 2, the fact is that a Hawaiin birth certificate does not legally qualify as proof of place of birth.
 
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Who exactly does he need to prove that to? And who exactly is asking this question beyond a specific subset of people? Arpaio rather than serving the needs of his county/community, is simply attempting to serve himself. The guy is a speck on the radar.
His motive doesnt matter. Its the content thats relevant. As I always have stated, I hate Arpaio but that does not scientifically void the content.
 
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Who exactly does he need to prove that to? And who exactly is asking this question beyond a specific subset of people? Arpaio rather than serving the needs of his county/community, is simply attempting to serve himself. The guy is a speck on the radar.
there is this thing called a constitution, I know people of your ideology try not to think about it. It has certain requirements for a person to be president. As well, individual states have laws of what is required for someone to be on the ballot for president. It is obvious that a Hawaiian birth certificate is no proof of birth in Hawaii.
 

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His motive doesnt matter. Its the content thats relevant. As I always have stated, I hate Arpaio but that does not scientifically void the content.
His content is hardly scientific.
 
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His content is hardly scientific.
Such as what? Such as his discovery of that loophole thats documented in Hawaiian law that confirms their birth certificates are not legal proof of birth?

You havent provided anything scientific other than it seems you trust Obama.
 
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His content is hardly scientific.
Arpaio's content vvv and I thank him for that.

Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an
adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue
a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been
submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual
while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory
or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately
preceding the birth or adoption of such child.


http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur...-0017_0008.HTM
 

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I just checked the "About Us" section....they are funded by the Annenberg Public Policy Center.

Did you know Bill Ayers was one of the key founders of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and Obama in 1995 was appointed Board Chairman and President?

lol, carry on...
Lol great find ax
 
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This is a repost from my Police State Thread...

Emergency Alert! UN Set To Ban Civilian Gun Ownership

Alex Jones

Infowars.com
July 14, 2012

The United Nations’ agenda for disarmament goes beyond the rhetoric the UN Arms Trade Treaty being debated in New York this month. The globalists want a total weapons ban– so they can kill innocents without opposition from the local populations. Crime rates soar wherever guns have been taken away– it is simple victim disarmament arithmetic. Look at all the uncovered martial law revelations: Troops have been trained to confiscate guns inside America (and it actually happened after Hurricane Katrina), while the politicians have been priming the nation to grudgingly accept new firearms restrictions.



Reason.com: Controlling Guns, Controlling People
A new history shows how gun control goes hand in hand with fear of black people—and The People.

Death by “Gun Control”

Mirrored from JPFo_Org


Why must all decent non-violent people fight against “gun control”? Why is the right to keep and bear arms truly a fundamental individual right? You can find the answers in this new book.

People frequently ask why we are so dedicated to our cause? This book answers that question by collecting the key facts and arguments in one place.

People have asked us to present the whole JPFO argument in one place. We have done it. Available now in an easy-reading format and a handy size, the new book is entitled Death by Gun Control: The Human Cost of Victim Disarmament.

The message is simple: Disarmed people are neither free nor safe – they become the criminals’ prey and the tyrants’ playthings. When the civilians are defenseless and their government goes bad, however, thousands and millions of innocents die.

Professor R.J. Rummel, author of the monumental book Death by Government, said: “Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth.” For power to concentrate and become dangerous, the citizens must be disarmed.

What disarms the citizens? The idea of “gun control.” It’s the idea that only the government has the right to possess firearms, and that citizens have no unalienable right to use force to defend against aggression.

Death by Gun Control carefully examines the “gun control” idea: its meaning, its purposes, its effects. It comes in many forms, but in every form it enables the evildoers and works against righteous defense.

The Mother of All Stats: The Human Cost of “Gun Control” Ideas



Addition – For easier chart printing, download the Genocide Chart PDF file, it includes a text synopsis of this page.
When the gun prohibitionists quote a statistic about how many people are killed by firearms misuse, the discussion sometimes bogs down into whose crime stats to believe and how to count crimes vs. the defensive firearm uses. Death by Gun Control works on a level that nobody can dispute: documented world history.

In the 20th Century:

Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.
Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.

How could governments kill so many people? The governments had the power – and the people, the victims, were unable to resist. The victims were unarmed.

Truth They Cannot Refute


Death by Gun Control delivers the essential – and gut wrenching — truth that the anti-self defense “gun control” advocates never try to refute. They simply cannot refute the facts or the formula.

Here’s the Formula: Hatred + Government + Disarmed Civilians = Genocide


What makes the argument so powerful? Two factors. First, it makes common sense: unarmed defenseless people have no hope against armed aggressors. Second, it states the historical truth: evil governments did wipe out 170,000,000 innocent non-military lives in the 20th Century alone.

Using the facts in Death by Gun Control, you can take down the enemies of the Bill of Rights. The rights-destroyers have no answers to these facts. They have no excuses for their killer ideas.

JPFO’s work has already borne fruit. John R. Bolton, an under-Secretary of State for the United States, this year urged the United Nations to recognize how an “oppressed non-state group defending itself from a genocidal government” will need ready access to firearms. Mr. Bolton might have been the first U.S. official in modern history to have argued to the UN that private citizens might need to be armed against their own killer governments.

Paul Harvey, the world-renowned and much admired radio commentator, last year reportedly broadcast the JPFO-produced facts linking “gun control” to the genocide of millions of unarmed civilians. Country by country, Mr. Harvey counted the murdered victims of civilian disarmament policies.

Our new book could inspire other opinion-makers to join the chorus. Chapters in the book teach about:
The essential meaning of “gun control”
The Genocide Formula
The laws and policies that led to mega murder in Cambodia, China, Nazi Germany, Guatemala, Rwanda, Ottoman Turkey, Uganda, USSR
Zimbabwe’s land invasions and firearms confiscations
Soaring crime in Britain after gun prohibition
Violence and police state polices in Japan
The right and duty of armed self-defense in Judaism and both Protestant and Catholic Christianity
Racist roots of “gun control” in America
The United Nations program to disarm civilians worldwide
Police state polices that condition Americans to accept victim disarmament.

Hurricane Katrina Door to Door Firearms Confiscation


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Proof: UN Plans To Ban American Guns


Infowars.com
July 14, 2012

Globalist United Nations moving to undermine and kill off Second Amendment. See more in Alex’s addendum and even more evidence/explanation of the gun ban intent.


Fast & Furious Staged to Pass UN Gun Treaty

In an Infowars Nightly News special report, Aaron Dykes examines the long-standing United Nations agenda to disarm populations.



United Nations’ Office for Disarmament Affairs

United Nations Disarmament ...strengthening peace and security through disarmament
United Nations Disarmament Treaties Timeline
GENERAL AND COMPLETE DISARMAMENT: SMALL ARMS – 12 December 1995 United Nations report on small arms (Published 1997)
Secretary-General’s report on small arms (2011) [PDF]

Secretary-General’s report on small arms (2008) [PDF]
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Death by “Gun Control”: The Genocide Chart
Controlling Guns, Controlling People: A new history shows how gun control goes hand in hand with fear of black people—and The People.
Obama Administration Participates in Finalizing UN Gun Grabbing Treaty
Soros Promotes UN Control Over Gun Ownership
Obama Seeks US Congressional Ratification of UN Global Gun Control Treaty
UN Arms Treaty Would Impact Second Amendment Rights
U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
UN arms treaty could put U.S. gun owners in foreign sights, say critics
U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Negotiations Underway
France, UK, Germany and Sweden call for binding UN arms trade treaty
NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre Stands Up for American Gun Owners at United Nations
UN Dispatch: No, the Arms Trade Treaty STILL is Not a “UN Gun Grab”
The U.N. Arms Trade Treaty: Are Our 2nd Amendment Rights Part Of The Deal?
Global gun control? Critics warn U.N. treaty would undermine U.S. gun rights
Mexican President Wants to Disarm Americans
Fast and Furious Scandal Gives Rise to Gun Regulation Debate

“If the American people learn that the motivations for all of this was to make a case to deprive them of their Second Amendment rights or to make a case to further the (Justice) department’s ability to further regulate gun rights within the United States, that would make them very angry,” said Rep. Trent Franks.

“We have an administration that has said ‘don’t let a good crisis go to waste’ and you wonder if this was actually a manufactured crisis,” Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-TX) said on Fox News back in the summer.

Bill Clinton speech at the 1995 United Nations 50th anniversary
Fast and Furious, Beyond Gun Control
House Dems focus on gun control in Fast and Furious hearing

Mexican President Wants to Disarm Americans

http://www.infowars.com/mexican-president-wants-to-disarm-americans/

Alex Jones responds to the radical and anti-American rhetoric issued today by visiting Mexican President Felipe Calderón on the floor of the U.S. Congress.

Keep in mind, Calderón and Obama are continuing unfinished business-- i.e. the North American Union. The two heads met alongside Canadian PM Steven Harper in August 2009 in Guadalajara where they discussed very similar themes-- the problem of "illegal weapons flowing south and fueling violence."

The Obama White House has had the resurgence of the Assault Weapons Ban on its agenda since the beginning of his term, but only now dare to raise an issue they know will be a political fight and free-for-all.


^^^ Update
My instincts tell me that was a major false flag operation based on the timing of the even and the upcoming NWO UN gun treaty coming in the next couple of weeks.

‘Dark Knight’ Shooting To Be Exploited For Political Grist

Second amendment, ‘conspiracy theorists’ to be blamed for incident


Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, July 20, 2012

UPDATE: As we predicted, within hours of posting this story, political opportunists like Mayor Bloomberg seized upon the tragedy to push for gun control.

UPDATE: Dark Knight Massacre To Pass UN Gun Ban?

Within hours of the tragic shooting in Aurora, Colorado at a screening of the new Batman movie, the political machine is already gearing up to exploit the incident as a tool to demonize the second amendment and characterize Americans who are against big government as extremists.

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A 6ft tall man dressed in black body armor and wearing a gas mask burst through an emergency exit door at the theater during a midnight screening of ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ Batman movie, before making his way up the stairs and shooting people at random, according to reports.
The man also apparently set off a smoke or tear gas bomb, killing at least 14 people and injuring dozens more.

The gunman was arrested and early reports suggested an accomplice was still on the run, but police now say there was only one shooter.

“A 24-year-old suspect in is custody and an apartment building in north Aurora connected to the suspect was being evacuated and searched for possible explosives, “ reports the Denver Post.


A possible motive for the shooting – bizarre as it sounds – is that, “the gunman carried out the shooting because the new Batman movie was sold out,” according to local reports.

Observers following news reports about the incident have already noticed that the tragedy is being exploited to demonize Americans suspicious of federal authority – noting that the villain in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ is an anti-establishment character.

“They’re claiming that since the villain in the movie was “rising up” against authorities that’s what this guy may have been doing,” writes Brandon Nolley.

Others fear that the shooter will be labeled a “conspiracy theorist” and used to portray so-called “truthers” as violent extremists.​
“I have a feeling he’s going to be a “extremist” with “Conspiracy theorist” views, may be he even saw Alex’s review of the movie,” writes Evan Munn.

“They are going to parade out the children’s bodies like OKC.”

Others note that the mass shooting coincides with a UN arms treaty that threatens to grease the skids for a total gun ban in the United States. It’s inevitable that the event will be used to demonize the second amendment.

“The UN treaty will save us,” comments Michael Rozycki.

Every time there is a mass shooting in the United States, the establishment uses it to demonize its political adversaries.

The most recent example was the Jared Lee Loughner case. After Loughner shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, the media instantly launched a smear campaign insinuating that Loughner’s political beliefs were shared by conservatives and libertarians. In reality, Loughner turned out to be a pot smoking left-winger who had dabbled in the occult.​

FLASHBACK: Leaked! The Dark Knight Rises
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Second Amendment Foe Bloomberg Exploits Colorado Shooting

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
July 20, 2012

New York mayor and notorious gun-grabber Michael Bloomberg has exploited the shooting at a Colorado theater to demand that Obama and Romney “stand up and tell us what they’re going to do about” the criminal behavior of psychopaths.



Dark Knight Massacre To Pass UN Gun Ban?

 
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^this was my first thought when I saw the headlines this morning

they had already painted him as a tea party extremist.
 
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^this was my first thought when I saw the headlines this morning

they had already painted him as a tea party extremist.
If 1/4 of the people in the movie theater had guns they would have easily taken out this Mo-Fo real quick. Instead they are going to use this "dont let a good crisis go to waste(rahm emanual)" incident to make it harder for good people to carry guns which only leads to a stronger black market and more criminals carrying guns.

Now, my above statement is coming from someone who doesnt own a gun or even give a crap about owning one.
 
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If 1/4 of the people in the movie theater had guns they would have easily taken out this Mo-Fo real quick. Instead they are going to use this "dont let a good crisis go to waste(rahm emanual)" incident to make it harder for good people to carry guns which only leads to a stronger black market and more criminals carrying guns.

Now, my above statement is coming from someone who doesnt own a gun or even give a crap about owning one.
I agree on both counts

I do not own a gun (yet) and never was interested
 
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False Flag Operation Alert:

Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

Mike Adams

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July 21, 2012

James Holmes, the Aurora, Colorado shooter who reportedly opened fire at a Batman movie premiere, was a medical student at the University of Colorado, pursuing a PhD in neuroscience, reports ABC News. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooting-colorado-movie-theater-14-peop…)

As part of the attack, Holmes painted his hair red and referred to himself as “The Joker,” one of the arch enemies in the DC Comics-inspired Batman movie series. (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-the…)

According to news reports, this sudden violent rampage was completely out of character for James Holmes, who was described as “shy.”

The New York Times is now reporting:

Billy Kromka, a pre-med student at the University of Colorado, Boulder, worked with Mr. Holmes for three months last summer as a research assistant in a lab of at the Anschutz Medical Campus. Mr. Kromka said he was surprised to learn Mr. Holmes was the shooting suspect. “It was just shocking, because there was no way I thought he could have the capacity to do commit an atrocity like this,” he said. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/colorado-mall-shooting.html?page…)

“He spent much of his time immersed in the computer, often participating in role-playing online games…”

There is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience research and ended up becoming involved at a depth he never anticipated. His actions clearly show a strange detachment from reality, indicating he was not in his right mind. That can only typically be accomplished through drugs, hypnosis or trauma (and sometimes all three).

His behavior doesn’t add up


His behavior already reveals stark inconsistencies that question the mainstream explanation of events. For example, he opened fire on innocent people but then calmly surrendered to police without resistance. This is not consistent with the idea of “killing everyone.”

Furthermore, he then admitted to police that his apartment was booby-trapped with explosives. If you were really an evil-minded Joker trying to kill people (including cops), why would you warn them about the booby trap in advance? It doesn’t add up.

“Holmes was taken into custody shortly after the shooting, police said, adding he didn’t resist when he was arrested,” reports a local CBS news affiliate (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-the…).

“After his arrest, Holmes told police about ‘possible explosives in his residence,’ Oates said. When police searched his apartment, they discovered it was booby-trapped and evacuated surrounding buildings, police said. Oates said bomb technicians are determining how to disarm flammable or explosive material in the third-floor apartment. He said police could be there some time.”

None of this checks out. If you’re a killer bent on causing mayhem, why tell the police about your surprise bomb waiting for them back at your apartment?

Holmes was clearly provided with exotic gear

Continuing from CBS:
“He said pictures from inside the apartment are fairly disturbing and the devices look to be sophisticated, adding the booby-traps were ‘something I’ve never seen.’ One rifle, two handguns, a knife, a bullet proof vest, a ballistic helmet, a gas device, a gas mask, military SWAT clothing and unidentified explosives were also found in Holmes’ car, a law enforcement source told CBS News. Oates said Holmes wore a gas mask, a ballistic helmet and vest as well as leg, groin and throat protectors during the shooting.”

In other words, this guy was equipped with exotic gear by someone with connections to military equipment. SWAT clothing, explosives, complex booby-traps… c’mon, this isn’t a “lone gunman.” This is somebody who was selected for a mission, given equipment to carry it out, then somehow brainwashed into getting it done.

“Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes’ apartment is booby-trapped with a ‘sophisticated’ maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it,” reports Yahoo News (http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/suspect-neuroscience-phd-stu…).

This is not your run-of-the-mill crime of passion. It was a carefully planned, heavily funded and technically advanced attack. Who might be behind all this? The FBI, of course, which has a long history of setting up and staging similar attacks, then stopping them right before they happen. See four documented stories on these facts:

New York Times openly admits domestic terror plots masterminded by the FBI
FBI 'entrapment' tactics questioned in web of phony terror plots and paid informants
FBI intercepts its own terrorist plot against US Capitol, Pentagon
FBI nabs five mastermind geniuses after teaching them how to blow up a bridge in Cleveland

As you soak all this in, remember that the FBI had admitted to setting up terror plots, providing the weapons and gear, staging the location of the bombings and even driving the vehicles to pull it off! This is not a conspiracy theory, it’s been admitted by the FBI right out in the open. Even the New York Times openly reports all this in stories like this one:

NYT: Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-help…)

THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts. But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. …the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of “inert material,” harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving…

Mystery man Holmes has no background

On top of all this, Holmes apparently has no background. “He’s not on anybody’s radar screen — nothing,” said a peace officer in a NYT article. “This guy is somewhat of an enigma. Nobody knows anything about him.” (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/colorado-mall-shooting.html)

Mr. Holmes’s only criminal history is a traffic summons, the authorities said. He earned a bachelor’s degree with honors in neuroscience in 2010 from the University of California, Riverside, and was a graduate student in neurosciences at the University of Colorado at Denver’s Anschutz Medical Campus… He was currently collecting unemployment…

Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, “flammable” booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?

A decent AR-15 rifle costs $1,000 or more all by itself. The shotgun and handgun might run another $800 total. Spare mags, sights, slings, and so on will run you at least another $1,000 across three firearms. The bullet-proof vest is easily another $800, and the cost of the bomb-making gear is anybody’s guess. With all the specialty body gear, ammunition, booby-trap devices and more, I’m guessing this is at least $20,000 in weapons and tactical gear, much of which is very difficult for civilians to get in the first place.

The mere manufacture of an explosive booby-trap device is, all by itself, a felony crime by the way. And remember: “Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes’ apartment is booby-trapped with a ‘sophisticated’ maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it,” reported Yahoo News (http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/suspect-neuroscience-phd-stu…).

Question: Where does an unemployed, introverted medical school student get the training to deploy sophisticated booby traps, tactical body armor, weapons systems and more? Certainly not in graduate school!

All this leads to an obvious third party influence over all this. Someone else taught this guy these skills and funded the acquisition of the equipment.

Staged just in time for a vote on the UN small arms treaty?

More and more, this shooting is looking like a deliberate plot staged by the government itself much like Operation Fast and Furious pulled off by the ATF (US government openly admits arming Mexican drug gangs with 30,000 firearms - but why?) which helped smuggle tens of thousands of guns into Mexico for the purpose of causing “gun violence” in the USA, then blaming the Second Amendment for it.

All this looks like James Holmes completed a “mission” and then calmly ended that mission by surrendering to police and admitting everything. The mission, as we are now learning, was to cause as much terror and mayhem as possible, then to have that multiplied by the national media at exactly the right time leading up the UN vote next week on a global small arms treaty that could result in gun confiscation across America. (UN Arms Transfer Treaty (ATT) on Small Arms: Gun Grab Gradualism by Thomas Eddlem)

Even Forbes.com wrote about this quite extensively, warning readers about the coming gun confiscation effort related to the UN treaty. The story was authored by Larry Bell (http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should…) and says the UN treaty could “override our national sovereignty, and in the process, provide license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.”

In other words, this has all the signs of Fast & Furious, Episode II. I wouldn’t be surprised to discover someone in Washington was behind it all. After all, there’s no quicker way to disarm a nation and take total control over the population than to stage violence, blame it on firearms, then call for leaders to “do something!” Such calls inevitably end up resulting in gun confiscation, and it’s never too long after that before government genocide really kicks in like we saw with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and other tyrants.

Governments routinely murder millions

Here’s a short list of government mass murder carried out throughout history, almost always immediately following the disarmament of the public (and usually involving staged false flag events to justify the disarmament):

50+ million dead: Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
12+ million dead: Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) – concentration camps, civilian deaths and dead Russian POWs
8+ million dead: Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908)
6+ million dead: Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39)
5+ million dead: Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44)
2+ million dead: Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-22)
1.7 million dead: Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79)
1.6 million dead: Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
1.5 million dead: Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78)
1 million dead: Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970)
900,000 dead: Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982)
800,000 dead: Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994)

The worst genocides of the 20th Century

Death by government:
20TH CENTURY DEMOCIDE (Genocide and Mass Murder)
http://www.infowars.com/democide-government-killed-over-260-million-i…

A “monopoly of force” in government is far more dangerous than a crazed lone shooter

So yes, James Holmes and other crazed shooters kill a number of people each year in random acts of violence. It’s horrifying and wrong, but it’s nothing compared to the millions of lives that governments tend to destroy when they gain total power over the populace.

The most dangerous thing in the world, it turns out, is not a crazy person with a rifle; it’s a government with a “monopoly of force” over the entire population. And that’s exactly what the UN spells out as its goal for the world: Stripping all power from individual citizens and handing “monopolies of force” to the governments of the world, shoring up their positions as the only “legitimate” power on the planet.

See this document entitled, “Geneva Centre for the Democratic Control of Armed Forces (DCAF)” policy paper No. 24:
http://www.naturalnews.com/files/Revisiting-the-State-Monopoly-on-the…

As this document reveals, a table entitled “Governance solutions for reasserting the state monopoly on the use of force” lists the options available to governments to re-establish “monopolies of force” against their own people:
• (Re-)establish state monopoly
- Ownership of WMDs
- Safety Inspectorates
• Prohibit business activity
- Justice and Execution
- Deadly Force?
• Regulate/limit activities
- Private defense/security services
- Control of financial transfers
- Export controls
- Transport and infrastructure safety
- Environmental impact

Interestingly, that document also describes “terrorism” in a way that perfectly matches the Aurora, Colorado “Batman” movie theater shooter:

Terrorists aim to spread panic and fear in societies in order to achieve political goals, be they based on left- or right-wing, social-revolutionary, nationalistic or religious ideologies. They are organized in a clandestine way, most often in small groups and cells… Typical tactical means include kidnapping, hostage-taking, sabotage, murder, suicide attacks, vehicle bombs and improvised explosive devices.

A global monopoly of force

This document is a goldmine of information about the globalist agenda to disarm and enslave the population. Check out page 28, which reads:

The legitimate monopoly of force should not be limited to the nation-state but should be based on the local, national, regional and the global levels.

Global Security Governance and the Monopoly of Force

At the global level no monopoly of violence exists. The UN Security Council already has a monopoly power to authorize the use of force at the global level, although the UN was never given the necessary means to exercise this authority, such as the capacity to implement sanctions, a police force and armed forces…

This deficiency in global governance acts as a bottleneck and a barrier to the creation of the democratically legitimized monopoly of violence that is globally required.

This story gets deep, doesn’t it? Watch for more analysis here at NaturalNews.com, where we still fight for liberty and justice in a world that’s increasingly becoming enslaved.
 
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Witness: Someone let gunman inside Colorado movie theater

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AURORA, CO -- A man who was at the Colorado movie theater where a dozen people were killed this morning, says he saw the gunman.

He says he thinks someone deliberately let the gunman inside once the movie started.

Here's what he told TV station KCNC this morning live on their newscast.

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"As I was sitting down to get my seat, I noticed that a person came up to the front row, the front right, sat down, and as credits were going, it looked like he got a phone call. He went out toward the emergency exit doorway, which I thought was unusual to take a phone call. And it seemed like he probably pried it open, or probably did not let it latch all the way. As soon as the movie started, somebody came in, all black, gas mask, armor, and threw a gas can into the audience, and it went off, and then there were gunshots that took place."

Police arrested 24-year-old James Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, for the shootings.

At least 12 people were killed and 38 others wounded when the gunman opened fire during the midnight screening of the newest Batman film, "The Dark Knight Rises."

Video interview here: http://bcove.me/bwrqdw7y
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252995/396/Witness-Someone-let-gunman-inside-Colorado-movie-theater-

More witnesses that shooter did not act alone


James Holmes Possible Second Shooter in tragic Batman Denver Shooting Eyewitness Account


Colorado Theater Eyewitness Describes Gunman and Possible Accomplice

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Colorado Shooter Had More in Common with Paramilitary Cops than Batman

Kurt Nimmo
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July 23, 2012


According to the official narrative now disseminated by the establishment media, James Holmes was acting out some warped fantasy about Batman when he entered a theater in Colorado and killed a dozen people. It is said the cops found Batman paraphernalia in his apartment, which was supposedly booby-trapped with sophisticated explosives.


The corporate media has described in detail the gear he allegedly wore during the mass shooting without drawing the obvious conclusion.
Instead of a Batman fetish, Holmes was fascinated with the sort of paramilitary gear now routinely donned by cops.

Is it possible Holmes was emulating the look and feel of militarized cops and the Batman story is just a flimsy cover to paper over the obvious?
We are inundated with propaganda nearly every day how the ready availability of guns is responsible for wanton acts of senseless violence. In fact, homicide rates are at a historical low and mass killings are a statistical anomaly.

We are also barraged with stories about brutal cops killing and maiming people for minor infractions or no infractions at all. And yet the establishment media does not call for an end to police violence and rarely acknowledges that it is a serious problem. In fact, it often makes excuses for police violence against citizens.

James Holmes’ psychosis was fueled by an obsession with black-clad paramilitary police who resemble Robocop, not the fantasy character Batman. His violent act has more to do with steroid-fueled cops attacking unarmed civilian victims than it does with a Hollywood rendition of a comic book hero.
 
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If you haven't already this 'il be a good watch in the background "C.I.A. no al-qaeda ever existed - BBC documentary the power of nightmares" @ Youtube
That was a very interesting film, I was unaware of these series. Thanks for posting that.

I wonder if they still play this stuff on air in England? We have a 3rd season of "Conspiracy Theory" with Jesse Ventura that is being held in a vault (Finished back in December and never aired, 8 episodes) and not being aired after the Pentagon pressured TruTV not to air anymore and they also had TrueTV wipe out the Fema Camp episode away from their history.
 
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Syria Update: What the News Isn't Reporting

by Tony Cartalucci

Monday, July 23, 2012
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Wider UNSC dissension, Turkish offensive against its own "rebels," and Iraq's rejection of latest "Arab League" statement before massive Al Qaeda attacks.


July 23, 2012 - Scratching just below the surface of the Western media's headlines are stories carrying greater implications - stories the West believes are better left untold.

"Operation Damascus Volcano" Followed Weeks of Warnings of Impending NATO Psy-Op.

Beginning last week, headlines were overrun by a coordinated NATO-backed "Free Syrian Army" (FSA) offensive and an assassination bombing in Damascus, timed so close to each other and the UN Security Council vote on sanctions, the vote was pushed back a day. The attacks dubbed, "Operation Damascus Volcano" were clearly coordinated with the assassination bombing, designed for psychological impact, and when Syrians reacted with resolve, they quickly collapsed.

What went unreported until over a week later, were warnings of a potential NATO psychological warfare operation, matching hijacked satellite channels broadcasting false reports with an initially violent but ultimately futile militant offensive to stampede the Syrian government out of power on a wave of confusion and panic. It appears "Damascus Volcano" was just that operation.

The Western media would not cover this story until a week later, when security operations in Damascus concluded in the favor of the government and Syrian state television repeatedly made warnings to its viewers about further potential disinformation campaigns. Even then, reports were limited to "Tweets" by Western journalists and headlines in China's English news.


Dissent in the UN Security Council Not Confined to Only Russia and China

Another big story was the UNSC resolution that was vetoed by Russia and China. The US and UK were quick to condemn the two nations, portraying them as the sole obstructions to resolving a conflict of the West's own creation. But, what has gone largely unreported by the West, is the abstaining of Pakistan and South Africa - revealing wider opposition upon the Security Council than was portrayed, illustrating an erosion of Western influence its media houses would rather not discuss.


Image: We all know that Russia and China vetoed the US-British backed UNSC resolution paving way for military intervention. What many do not know is that Pakistan and South Africa abstained in protest of the resolution.
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Arab League Ultimatum Rejected by Syria.... and Iraq. Al Qaeda Promptly Punishes

There is also the Arab League which, speaking on behalf NATO, attempted one last chance to lure Syria into quick capitulation, offering sanctuary to Syria's President Bashar al-Assad if only he would step down immediately. Ultimately Syria rejected these demands, illustrating its state institutions are not as near "crumbling" as the West insists.

What has gone largely unreported is the fact that the "Arab League's" demands were made by the despotic governments of mainly Qatar and Saudi Arabia who are openly arming and paying the salaries of the FSA - essentially Gulf State mercenaries - to whom the League is asking Syria to surrender. Tunisia, under the US-installed President Moncef Marzouki had been the one specifically to offer President Assad "safe haven," further illustrating the absurdity of the Arab League's proxy demands.


Image: Sadr City, Baghdad - the aftermath of Monday, July 23, 2012's bombing & shooting spree, which Al Qaeda has taken responsibility for. It is designed specifically to spark off another destructive and divisive sectarian conflict - similar to the one the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia are fueling in Iraq's northern neighbor, Syria. The attack was carried out the same day Iraq rejected the Arab League's (primarily Saudi Arabia and Qatar) demands that Syria's president step down immediately.
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Furthermore, Iraq wholly rejected the "Arab League" demands made on Monday, and almost immediately suffered the consequences as sectarian extremists under the Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) banner declared a new campaign of violence against the Iraqi government, beginning with a bombing and shooting spree leaving over a hundred dead in one day. It should be noted by readers that Al Qaeda was initially created by the United States and Saudi Arabia and has since been used to execute Western foreign policy up to and including both NATO's recent operations in Libya, and now in subverting Syria.

Al Qaeda's campaign most likely was inevitable, as Iraq drifts ever further away from US, Israeli, and Saudi influence, but its public condemnation of the Arab League's demands verses Syria made for impeccable timing as AQI launched its most recent strike.

Turkey Crushes Own Rebels While Backing FSA Terrorists in Syria

Finally, reports of a Turkish military helicopter going down in the Hakkari province, just north of Iraq in operations against Kurdish rebels located there, indicates that another Turkish military operation against its own Kurdish population is underway - albeit very quietly.


Image: A Turkish Blackhawk (reported as an S-70 Sikorsky) like the one pictured above was downed in the Hakarri province where security operations are targeting Kurdish rebels there, and across the border with northern Iraq.
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Turkey has pursued an exceedingly hypocritical foreign policy as of late - arming, funding, training, and sheltering FSA terrorists in their efforts to undermine and destroy neighboring Syria, while carrying out a brutal campaign against Kurdish rebels rising up against the Turkish government. Turkey over the last 10 years has rolled tanks against Kurdish rebels, and strafed suspected rebel towns from the air, both within Turkey, and astonishingly deep within northern Iraq. The latest airstrikes being carried out as late as last week.

A recent deployment of military equipment along the Turkish-Syrian border by the Turkish military arrived in Mardin, the province facing Syria's Kurdish dominated northeast, not the fighting taking place toward the West in Aleppo and Idlib.



Photo: Turkish tanks entering Iraq to raid Kurdish towns and hunt suspected rebels in 2008. More recently, Turkey has been bombing "suspected" rebel bases in both Turkey and Iraq, as well as conducting mass nationwide arrests.
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It would appear that Turkey is engaged in combat operations against its own population, while disingenuously berating the Syrian government over its security operations against the FSA. It would also appear that Turkey has repeatedly violated Iraqi airspace in recent weeks to pursue rebels over its borders - a scenario it and NATO have stated would constitute a war provocation should Syria pursue a similar policy.

Turkey is not only conducting security operations against its own Kurdish population, but against Kurds in Iraq, and is staging military equipment across the border from Syria's Kurds. That this is not being covered in the Western media, demands further scrutiny and indicates that a wider conflict is already beginning - not because of Syria's President Assad, but because of NATO and Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan .
 

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I assume that there are no longer homicidal maniacs anymore....just false flags?

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I assume that there are no longer homicidal maniacs anymore....just false flags?

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Of course they are but they all need to be taken on an individual case by case analysis.
 
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I assume that there are no longer homicidal maniacs anymore....just false flags?

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the important part is to not assume they are all just homicidal maniacs, and that none are false flags.
 

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the important part is to not assume they are all just homicidal maniacs, and that none are false flags.
So in other words, you think it could be possible that someone manipulated this guys mind and had him commit this atrocity? In essence, to gain in the war against the 2nd amendment

Of course they are but they all need to be taken on an individual case by case analysis.
you do realize that there is a plethora of evidence that suggests that young men in this age group are quite susceptible to mental illness? Unfortunately, it seems that this guy snapped, for whatever reason, and took part in a heinous crime that is likely to put him away for the rest of his life.
 
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So in other words, you think it could be possible that someone manipulated this guys mind and had him commit this atrocity? In essence, to gain in the war against the 2nd amendment



you do realize that there is a plethora of evidence that suggests that young men in this age group are quite susceptible to mental illness? Unfortunately, it seems that this guy snapped, for whatever reason, and took part in a heinous crime that is likely to put him away for the rest of his life.
Unfortunatly there was more than one suspect and he appears to be a victim of the mk-ultra program.
 
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So in other words, you think it could be possible that someone manipulated this guys mind and had him commit this atrocity? In essence, to gain in the war against the 2nd amendment



you do realize that there is a plethora of evidence that suggests that young men in this age group are quite susceptible to mental illness? Unfortunately, it seems that this guy snapped, for whatever reason, and took part in a heinous crime that is likely to put him away for the rest of his life.
the second part sort of answers the first. how much of a push both in statements and via pharmaceuticals would it take to induce mental illness? I took 1600mg a day of SAM-e as part of a personal experiment to see its effects on joint issues, and by the third week I was experiencing manic depressive states that were worsening and it took someone else pointing it out to me for me to realize the SAM-e was what drove it. I'm not at all saying that him being manipulated into worsening any pre-existing issues is what happened, but it is plausible. you do it with 50,100, 200 people across the US, and it doesn't have to be really hard pushes to have one of them crack and go ape****.
 
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MKUltra is a top secret (and illegal) program run by the CIA directed under Allen Welsh Dulles (head CIA directer under Eisenhower) in the 1950's (although development started prior) which experimented with humans and behavior modification experiments. Experiments are known to be implemented on at least thousands of people and included many deaths.

Drugs such as LCD, amphetamines, barbiturates among many others were used in the experiment along with hypnosis, torture and many other methods. (If you saw the court hearing yesterday, the Colorodo shooter was so obviously on heavy drugs to the point he couldnt even speak.)

Senate started hearings on the illegal project in 1977 as seen below. First page is from 77, the other 2 are unclassified documents released during the hearings I believe.





 

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MKUltra is a top secret (and illegal) program run by the CIA directed under Allen Welsh Dulles (head CIA directer under Eisenhower) in the 1950's (although development started prior) which experimented with humans and behavior modification experiments. Experiments are known to be implemented on at least thousands of people and included many deaths.

Drugs such as LCD, amphetamines, barbiturates among many others were used in the experiment along with hypnosis, torture and many other methods. (If you saw the court hearing yesterday, the Colorodo shooter was so obviously on heavy drugs to the point he couldnt even speak.)

Senate started hearings on the illegal project in 1977 as seen below. First page is from 77, the other 2 are unclassified documents released during the hearings I believe.
I am familiar with the program. However, stating unequivocally that this case is a result is dishonest. You do not know that for certain. The greater likelihood is that he is a major mental defect.
 

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the second part sort of answers the first. how much of a push both in statements and via pharmaceuticals would it take to induce mental illness? I took 1600mg a day of SAM-e as part of a personal experiment to see its effects on joint issues, and by the third week I was experiencing manic depressive states that were worsening and it took someone else pointing it out to me for me to realize the SAM-e was what drove it. I'm not at all saying that him being manipulated into worsening any pre-existing issues is what happened, but it is plausible. you do it with 50,100, 200 people across the US, and it doesn't have to be really hard pushes to have one of them crack and go ape****.
Maybe he was self medicating as you described. We won't know for a while. Assuming it is the global elitists is downright foolish
 
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I am familiar with the program. However, stating unequivocally that this case is a result is dishonest. You do not know that for certain. The greater likelihood is that he is a major mental defect.
Saying unequivocally that the event was the act of a lone gun man with a mental defect who financed his operation on his own is being dishonest as well. You have to be intelligent and put all the evidence and suspicions on the table before you come to close conclusions.

As Ive stated, he wasnt the only suspect in the movie theater, and witnesses stated weapons used came from different areas of the movie theater. Its possible that not only was there an agent working to let the gunman inside the theater but also other agents in the inside were armed as well.

We also have the issue with the Journalist who was only a month prior narrowly escaped a shooting just a month prior which gives suspicions to an assassination attempt (which the timing also gives other benefits), and I believe there were some soldiers in there which Im looking for more info.

With the shooter in court yesterday they did the same thing to Timothy McVeigh, they would drug the crap out of him before they rolled him out in court so he would be a zombie under defense.
 
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Maybe he was self medicating as you described. We won't know for a while. Assuming it is the global elitists is downright foolish
being sure that it wasn't them is possibly more foolish. I'm not thinking that is what happened, but it wouldn't surprise me. Seems like with him the change was very rapid, which even with mental illness is a bit odd. You're looking at going from phd candidate to I want to kill people in the span of 3-4 months, with nobody seeing signs of it. Definitely could be just self indulgence in chemistry, trying to improve his own performance, but could very well have involved someone pushing him too. doubtful we'll realy know for sure.
 
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James Holmes had links to DARPA (Defense Advance Research Projects Agency) and was one of only 6 Grant recipients of the National Institutes of Health Neuroscience Training at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus. The school was not long ago de-commisioned site of the U.S. Army’s Fitzsimons Army Medical Center. His DARPA connections are with his research assistant intern duties at the Salk Institute, and he may have been invloved with the candy bar Mars project which was to prevent fatigue in combat troops through the enhanced use of epicatechina. DARPA runs the “Peak Soldier Performance Program,” which involves bionic projects and other high tech projects.

His grandfather is Lt. Col. Robert Holmes which shows his family is rooted deep in the military industrial complex.. Lt. Holmes went to Turkish language graduates of the Army Language School and Defense Language Institute, in Monterey, California where one of the alleged 9/11 hijackers trained. Usually Turkish trained military officers work for DIA or CIA at Ankara or the Consulate General in Istanbul.

Things I will be posting here will only get more detailed and stranger in regards to this case. This isnt your typical kid gone crazy. This kid may have perhaps been linked to government projects with super soldiers.
 

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James Holmes had links to DARPA (Defense Advance Research Projects Agency) and was one of only 6 Grant recipients of the National Institutes of Health Neuroscience Training at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus. The school was not long ago de-commisioned site of the U.S. Army's Fitzsimons Army Medical Center. His DARPA connections are with his research assistant intern duties at the Salk Institute, and he may have been invloved with the candy bar Mars project which was to prevent fatigue in combat troops through the enhanced use of epicatechina. DARPA runs the "Peak Soldier Performance Program," which involves bionic projects and other high tech projects.

His grandfather is Lt. Col. Robert Holmes which shows his family is rooted deep in the military industrial complex.. Lt. Holmes went to Turkish language graduates of the Army Language School and Defense Language Institute, in Monterey, California where one of the alleged 9/11 hijackers trained. Usually Turkish trained military officers work for DIA or CIA at Ankara or the Consulate General in Istanbul.

Things I will be posting here will only get more detailed and stranger in regards to this case. This isnt your typical kid gone crazy. This kid may have perhaps been linked to government projects with super soldiers.
Just like the Arizona shooter from last year, he also was shown to have some strange ties to different groups. Except he was also known by most to be a frightening and odd person.

Bear in mind ax, not everyone who knew this guy was surprised by this.
 

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being sure that it wasn't them is possibly more foolish. I'm not thinking that is what happened, but it wouldn't surprise me. Seems like with him the change was very rapid, which even with mental illness is a bit odd. You're looking at going from phd candidate to I want to kill people in the span of 3-4 months, with nobody seeing signs of it. Definitely could be just self indulgence in chemistry, trying to improve his own performance, but could very well have involved someone pushing him too. doubtful we'll realy know for sure.
I think your time frame might be off. It looks like he began stockpiling weapons for months, earlier that 3-4. I wouldn't have been surprised if someone else was involved as other witnesses are stating, but that does not mean it was the government boogeyman.
 
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I think your time frame might be off. It looks like he began stockpiling weapons for months, earlier that 3-4. I wouldn't have been surprised if someone else was involved as other witnesses are stating, but that does not mean it was the government boogeyman.
he may have stockpiled weapons in that time frame, its more that from what I caught of quick snippets from people who knew him, they were saying he started acting odd 3-4 months ago.

Oh yeah, it could just be some other psycho that worked with him on it. I'm just open to it being a government program as it is possible. A strong piece that will point to it being a government plot is if something similar but even deadlier happens within the next week or two, to raise the stakes and make it possible to use an even more horrible crisis as the excuse to join the UN gun program.
 

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